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Creature
16-12-2008, 18:58
Can someone please back me up in saying that Alexandra Berk's version is one of the worst versions ever? It's meant to be a quiet song, not belted out by a choir.
Absolutely. Gimme the Jeff Buckley version any day.
Absolutely. Gimme the Jeff Buckley version any day.
Jeff's one is number 3 in the charts so far this week, sadly irritating girl's one is number 1 :(
It has been many years since I paid attention to the charts. Based on your post I shall continue to do so.
Creature
16-12-2008, 19:17
Irritating girl is no1, despite not having the hard copy out yet :( I'm just thankfully that she'll have probably all but dissapeared by this time next year.
Streeteh
16-12-2008, 19:23
I've always ignored x factor, people i know and love have displayed a spectrum of emotions around me throughout its duration whether it be intense hatred or utter obsession.
That is, until now, they have infuriated me. They've taken what, to me, is one of the most emotional and iconic songs in history and ruined it. Now if this was a random artist or whatever i wouldn't mind so much, but this is the xfactor crew, a large group of people that have meticulously planned every choice they've made to maximize profits from this single, it's not even about the music, it's about the money.
They've cheapened one of the things i enjoy most in life, I detest them.
(oh the melodrama)
NokkonWud
16-12-2008, 20:41
Can someone please back me up in saying that Alexandra Berk's version is one of the worst versions ever? It's meant to be a quiet song, not belted out by a choir.
That was my exact thought. I was hoping she'd keep it small, but that's where she's vulnerable.
One of the best versions of this I've heard was Jason Castro's on American Idol last year.
Kell_ee001
16-12-2008, 21:30
I enjoyed the X-Factot but wasn't happy the winner or her single.
Give me Leonard Cohen anyday.
As much as I love Jeff Buckley... Rufus Wainwright FTW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR0DKOGco_o
Makes me melt every time I hear it.
Streeteh
17-12-2008, 13:06
Give me Leonard Cohen anyday.
Indeed, the number of people i've met that think that Jeff Buckley did it originally is rather surprising. His version is certainly one of the best, but at least give Cohen credit for writing it! Another one of my favorite versions is actually the one done by John Cale, his voice is just perfect for it.
I actually met someone who thought the chick that sang the x-factor version wrote it... i nearly chewed my own tongue off :p
I need to get anger management classes.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7787355.stm
Interesting article on it :)
Anyway, for me Buckley's version is easier on the ear, followed by Pheeb's :)
You've heard me sing hallelujah and liked it?! I think I may cry! No ones ever said I could sing... but now there's you!
*wubs*
;) ;D Hehehehe!
I can never remembers cohens name when trying to think who wrote it. I think Mister Rufus made such an impression on me that I just forget :)
Matblack
17-12-2008, 14:29
Its not a ****ing Christmas song, I ****ing hate Simon Cowell the ****
There have been some great cover versions by people that did them because they love and respect the original not because Simon ****ing Cowell told them to record it, I ****ing hate the X factor and wish everyone who is associated with it a ****ing horrible Christmas and a **** new year.
Wainwrights version is the one used in Shrek I believe, I like the Buckley version slightly more and the orginal best.
MB
Streeteh
17-12-2008, 14:32
Its not a ****ing Christmas song, I ****ing hate Simon Cowell the ****
There have been some great cover versions by people that did them because they love and respect the original not because Simon ****ing Cowell told them to record it, I ****ing hate the X factor and wish everyone who is associated with it a ****ing horrible Christmas and a **** new year.
MB
I concur... ****
(Felt like i needed to stick a profanity in there somewhere)
Matblack
17-12-2008, 14:40
To try and scour the the new **** version from your minds here are links to some decent ones
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mmbQEQltOwM&feature=related Wainright/ Sheck <<< Very good
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=P_NpxTWbovE&feature=related KD Lang - Good
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aaHdeNN_ee0&feature=related Damian Rice - Emotional
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AratTMGrHaQ&feature=related - Buckley - one of the best
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rf36v0epfmI - Cohen - Original, not all ~80 verses unfortunately
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ckbdLVX736U&feature=related John Cale I like this version
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=g-8Arvz8rHM&feature=related Dylan!
All of which knock 7 shades of **** out of whats her face's poptastic crapfest
Simon Cowell has admmited he doesn't really enjoy music and his luxury choice to take on desert island discs was a mirror, if he had said he wanted it to break and slit his wrists with I might have been pleased but he wanted it so he could look at himself :/ ****
MB
It's frustrating that Simon Cowell has been able to choose the song he wanted to be the Christmas number one for the last three years.
Matblack
17-12-2008, 14:58
What's frustrating is that he isn't dead in a ditch
MB
Don't sugar coat it Matt, tell us how you really feel.
leowyatt
17-12-2008, 15:05
Don't sugar coat it Matt, tell us how you really feel.
rofles
NokkonWud
17-12-2008, 15:20
The frustrating thing is that Simon Cowell is massively out of touch with music.
Matblack
17-12-2008, 15:23
The frustrating thing is that Simon Cowell is massively out of touch with music.
No
THE FRUSTRATING THING IS
THAT SIMON COWELL ISN'T
DEAD IN A DITCH!
MB
Streeteh
17-12-2008, 15:32
He's out of touch with good music. Generally its 12 year old girls that buy singles, most people with good music taste buy albums. The result of this is, if you want to get to number 1 in the singles chart churn out some catchy rubbish and publicize it to hell and back. Generally the top 10 album charts is of a much higher quality than the singles chart.
NokkonWud
17-12-2008, 15:37
Yeah, I should have said, good music.
He's also very defined. An example is last years American Idol winner David Cook who Simon thought was incredibly original because every week he made a song 'his own' by putting a slant on a famous record, what Simon didn't know is that David Cook did someone elses different version of a well known song - I knew this, but the majority of the general public in the US and kids who buy singles wouldn't, nor did Simon.
Davey_Pitch
17-12-2008, 15:39
What's frustrating is that he isn't dead in a ditch
MB
You'd wish someone dead because you don't agree what with they believe to be good music? Sounds a bit harsh to me.
Matblack
17-12-2008, 15:41
You'd wish someone dead because you don't agree what with they believe to be good music? Sounds a bit harsh to me.
What can I say, I'm a bastard :dunno:
Any way Cowell doesn't even LIKE music
http://www.cinemablend.com/music/Say-What-Simon-Cowell-Says-He-Doesn-t-Enjoy-Music-2578.html
MB
As with many things in the media, Simon Cowell tells people what they should like and the less independent thinking people go out and buy it. He then has the smug satisfaction of telling us that he was right because, if he wasn't, why would people buy it?
It's just a self-fulfilling prophecy. You can see it week on week in the X-Factor finals. Some weeks a contestant will have an absolute mare, but one of the judges will heap praise on them as if it was the greatest performance ever. Surprise surprise, that contestant isn't even in the bottom two despite their flaccid performance.
I am currently torn between rooting for Alexandra's song to come number 1 because of the anger it seems to engender, an alternative version because of the disappointment in the Alex camp, or rooting for Rick Astley simply for the epic lulz
semi-pro waster
19-12-2008, 16:54
I am currently torn between rooting for Alexandra's song to come number 1 because of the anger it seems to engender, an alternative version because of the disappointment in the Alex camp, or rooting for Rick Astley simply for the epic lulz
I'm personally hoping for no number one whatsoever, I'm not sure how to ensure this happens but perhaps a giant media blackout and deletion of all data pertaining to number of records sold in the past week is the way to go. It seems a little less violent than killing Simon Cowell although I can't disagree with the sentiment, the thing that really worries me about that scenario is if he then turns into a Princess Diana type figure and people forget his bad points.
What a big pile of steamy bollocks. I like the Shrek version, personally. Just because it reminds me of his sad little green face :( Aww!
Only just got around to listening to both Burke's and Buckley's versions and seem to be in the minority in that I prefer Burke's version
*hides in the corner*
Having actually just really listened to the lyrics, it isn't exactly a cheery song...I'll stick to rockin' around the christmas tree me thinks :)
Having actually just really listened to the lyrics, it isn't exactly a cheery song...
That I think is the main issue.
She belts out it like some kind of uplifting power ballad and really, I don't think most people view the song that way.
Trouble is, singing loud = good in a lot of peoples eyes, which is why it's been done I think. It takes real talent to sing gently and still convey a lot of emotion, more so than bellowing at the top of your voice.
You'd wish someone dead because you don't agree what with they believe to be good music? Sounds a bit harsh to me.
Doesn't to me. We might actually get a decent Christmas No. 1 for a change. I'd accept him being locked up on a remote island where no-one can ever hear from him again at a pinch. Bring back proper Christmas No. 1's. :'(
NokkonWud
21-12-2008, 23:38
Trouble is, singing loud = good in a lot of peoples eyes, which is why it's been done I think. It takes real talent to sing gently and still convey a lot of emotion, more so than bellowing at the top of your voice.
Totally agree. It's also why Leona blows Alexandra away.
Totally agree.
Holy crap, someone phone the Pope to report a miracle :p
NokkonWud
21-12-2008, 23:48
lol. It was never gonna be in regards to games though ;).
AboveTheSalt
22-12-2008, 00:51
As with many things in the media, Simon Cowell tells people what they should like and the less independent thinking people go out and buy it. He then has the smug satisfaction of telling us that he was right because, if he wasn't, why would people buy it?It is better than that, Cowell has a record label called Syco, Syco is a division of Sony BMG, Sony BMG owns the rights to Hallelujah. I have even read a suggestion that Cowell will make more out of the success of Hallelujah this Christmas than Leonard Cohen will.
there is also a crackingg version by il divo...... ill go find it.
booya
P_90D7r70vU
Davey_Pitch
22-12-2008, 04:47
Doesn't to me. We might actually get a decent Christmas No. 1 for a change. I'd accept him being locked up on a remote island where no-one can ever hear from him again at a pinch. Bring back proper Christmas No. 1's. :'(
Do people release proper Christmas songs any more though? The fact that The Fairytale of New York is at number 12 in the charts suggests that people want to buy proper Christmas songs (that's the best ever IMO), but there aren't any new ones out there to buy. In the absence of proper Christmas songs to fall in love with, people will buy what they're told to buy. Rightly or wrongly, Cowell is an expert at telling people what we should be buying.
It takes real talent to sing gently and still convey a lot of emotion
I agree. Doesn't make his version any better to my ears though, it just sounds softly and quietly done to me.
NokkonWud
22-12-2008, 13:17
Do people release proper Christmas songs any more though? The fact that The Fairytale of New York is at number 12 in the charts suggests that people want to buy proper Christmas songs (that's the best ever IMO), but there aren't any new ones out there to buy. In the absence of proper Christmas songs to fall in love with, people will buy what they're told to buy. Rightly or wrongly, Cowell is an expert at telling people what we should be buying.
The Wombats released a cracker last year (although Scott Mills would have you believe it was this year). Other than that, not really, only The Darkness released one and I hate them so much that it's the only Xmas chart I ever stayed and listened to hoping they came 2nd behind Mad World by Gary Jules and they did \o/.
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