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loki
25-12-2008, 18:42
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7799652.stm

Personally I think he and CH.4 and has been over villifed for broadcasting this speech. In as much as I have no tolerance for regimes and despots, neither do I have time for the slanted and biased media we have in the UK today.

Garp
25-12-2008, 18:50
I'd agree about the slanted media, however I'm not keen on allowing him on TV to lie. His track record for two faced speaking leaves me rather inclined to feel its all just a waste of time.

phykell
25-12-2008, 19:31
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7799652.stm

Personally I think he and CH.4 and has been over villifed for broadcasting this speech. In as much as I have no tolerance for regimes and despots, neither do I have time for the slanted and biased media we have in the UK today.
Agreed.

I'm politically, ideologically, and morally opposed to probably 99% of what he says but that's no reason for the British media to castigate C4, as much as it has, for choosing to at least offer us a different perspective for once. Let *us* decide what we think of the guy - we don't and shouldn't need our view of the world to be censored.

Chuckles
25-12-2008, 22:06
I think the news just made a bit of a fuss about it because it's such a slow news day today to be honest.

It wasn't even especially controvserial. How about the govt stay out of commenting on a private broadcaster and let the public make up their own opinions? :D

loki
25-12-2008, 23:51
I think the news just made a bit of a fuss about it because it's such a slow news day today to be honest.

It wasn't even especially controvserial. How about the govt stay out of commenting on a private broadcaster and let the public make up their own opinions? :D

Partially that's the issue though as some of CH.4 money comes from public funding via the license. I would much prefer the Govt get involved when the nation is dumbed down with endless hours of Coronation Stret, Emmerdale and I'm a C rate celebrity get me a new career.

Bod
26-12-2008, 03:38
You leave Coronation Street out of this!.....low blow! :D

I'd rather they stepped in and did the nation a favour and burned both Simon Cowell, phone votes, and anything to do with 'talent shows' unless it's real talent.

I'm personally not comfortable with the idea of this particular broadcast. Who's up next year, Mugabe?

cheets
26-12-2008, 12:41
Was I the only one laughing at him and it making him and his country look like ****

NokkonWud
26-12-2008, 12:55
Was I the only one laughing at him and it making him and his country look like ****

Probably. Iran isn't **** though.

phykell
26-12-2008, 13:29
Was I the only one laughing at him and it making him and his country look like ****
Name a country whose leader doesn't do that ;)

Desmo
26-12-2008, 18:36
Can't see a major problem with it, but I also don't really see the point. Maybe they could have done more and turned it into some kind if intelligent debate show or something. Just showing a speech (I haven't seen it so assuming it was just a speech) seems a bit pointless to me.

benktlottie
28-12-2008, 01:32
Channel 4 have traditionally aired contraversal things in the past. The media get up in arms, and there's always a pros and cons for why they did it. The burying under the patio, the lesbian kiss...

This will all be forgotten about and blown over next week.

Were they right? I don't know. Personally, it didnt replace the Queens speech at 3pm (which I watch/listen to religiously every year) and I chose not to turn onto channel 4 at 7.15pm or whatever time it was.

Did anyone actually watch it? Was it interesting?

AboveTheSalt
28-12-2008, 11:46
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad claimed in his address that "the general will of nations" was for a return to "human values". I am not convinced that that is the case, regardless of what Obama claimed when he was running for US President.

Whilst I would agree with his overall claim that society has lost touch with "human values", I don't agree that any Government is all that interested in regaining that contact and I am certainly not convinced that adopting hard-line Islamic or Christian teachings is the way to achieve it.