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If someone knows a man with a welder can they give me a pm. My skills in this area are bugger all and I've just had discovered a rust hole.
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Phil's starting a welding course next week :p
But no, all our welding currently goes to the bodyshop down the road.
Drop Johnny69 a message, I hear he's handy with a MIG welder.
Leon has one, but he's not particularly experienced yet :p
Vix - where's the welding course? Is it evening classes?
The guy I use (and my Dad) is called Pat Regan. 07958 555285 He's not too badly priced and does a very decent job. Sort of half-way between "get it through the MOT" standard and restoration.
Who did you take it to for the MOT?
Leon has one, but he's not particularly experienced yet :p
Vix - where's the welding course? Is it evening classes?
Yeah he's doing one night a week for about a year at Great Yarmouth College.
Funny, he's going back to school and I've just become a teacher!
Not an uncommon place, just need to find out how much of the rest of the front end is rotten under all that underseal. :(
The guy I use (and my Dad) is called Pat Regan. 07958 555285 He's not too badly priced and does a very decent job. Sort of half-way between "get it through the MOT" standard and restoration.
Who did you take it to for the MOT?
Trinity down Springfield Road, another one I was recommended. Couldn't remember where you said. The guys were honest and showed me on the ramp where it had gone through.
As Phil hinted I am rather worried about how much of that front end is gone. Hopefully not enough that will mean junking the car :( IIRC it was around there to the front floor pan that meant you had to junk your old one? It is in a common place on them though as he said. Last MOT it flew through and this one bar that one spot it would have flown through as well. I *really* could do without trying to find another MR2 and installing KYB's, exhaust, filter etc at the moment.
I'll give your guy a ring tomorrow and see what he says. I'm taking it to another chap down Broomfield Road (near the hospital) who is meant to be reasonable and has done a mk1 in that place before.
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It's not a bad idea to look at a welding course. At some point you are going to need it. Also get a MIG and do some work on the side ;)
The problem is that because they tend to rot from the inside out it can hide behind the underseal for years until someone spots it. Anything along the chassis rails at the front is vulnerable, particularly the flat area just behind the front wheels (I think there's some sort of drainage issue that allows rainwater to collect inside here until it rusts it's way out.)
Trinity down Springfield Road, another one I was recommended. Couldn't remember where you said. The guys were honest and showed me on the ramp where it had gone through.
As Phil hinted I am rather worried about how much of that front end is gone. Hopefully not enough that will mean junking the car :( IIRC it was around there to the front floor pan that meant you had to junk your old one? It is in a common place on them though as he said. Last MOT it flew through and this one bar that one spot it would have flown through as well. I *really* could do without trying to find another MR2 and installing KYB's, exhaust, filter etc at the moment.
I'll give your guy a ring tomorrow and see what he says. I'm taking it to another chap down Broomfield Road (near the hospital) who is meant to be reasonable and has done a mk1 in that place before.
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It's not a bad idea to look at a welding course. At some point you are going to need it. Also get a MIG and do some work on the side ;)
Pat is on the way to broomfield too (although he comes to you, great for a car that's off the road!). Trinity isn't bad, it's waltham service station I use. Also on the way to broomfield - well slightly past it. Are all the decent people clustered round the local A&E? ;D
Justsomebloke
21-02-2009, 09:15
I feel I should answer as you all know I could do this.
Only trouble is I live about zillion miles away from you so it would take eons & postage etc.
Shame really as one of my Superior skillz is panel forming/making, The amount of hours I have spent cutting & bending & hammering weld panels is embarrasing, I just Love panel forming with a Hammer :o
Pat is on the way to broomfield too (although he comes to you, great for a car that's off the road!). Trinity isn't bad, it's waltham service station I use. Also on the way to broomfield - well slightly past it. Are all the decent people clustered round the local A&E? ;D
Joking aside I think you are right :D He is actually in Springfield today so is popping over to have a look o/
I feel I should answer as you all know I could do this.
Only trouble is I live about zillion miles away from you so it would take eons & postage etc.
Shame really as one of my Superior skillz is panel forming/making, The amount of hours I have spent cutting & bending & hammering weld panels is embarrasing, I just Love panel forming with a Hammer :o
Thanks for the offer, alas although I can drive it to a repair centre, I don't think they'd let me get away with driving to the midlands :D (Well, knowing my luck). When I find another bit that needs doing, I shall keep you in mind.
Rich, he's just popped round. A welder guy that doesn't take the mick with the prices! I owe you a pint.
Justsomebloke
21-02-2009, 13:45
*WARNING*
Cheap welders are usually cheap because they have no liabilty insurance (It costs a Bomb for Welders)
Bare this in mind & set up a hose that works & fill a bucket of water & put them within easy reach of the motor being welded.
This may seem a bit much but I have known Plenty of people who have set alight to there interior carpets whilst welding floor panels ;D
If you stay with the welder whilst he is working you can watch out for any hot spots, The carpets start smoking well before they go up so when they start to smoke just dowse them with the water & carry on, I've done it loads of times & enjoy the buzz/risk :evil:
Just looked at the job again & there is nothing there to worry about, The art in your particular job will be in forming the panel, my speciality :cool:
Cool beans :)
Dunno if he's insured. I assume he is as he does a lot of industrial work and they won't let a welder on site without adequate insurance.
Justsomebloke
21-02-2009, 14:28
They will be covered themselves I think, It is the mobile welding liabilty insurance that is not cost effective not the industrial one as you get more work & more money etc.
All welders could do motors if they had the mobile equipment but most don't bother because of the massive insurance bill, those that do generally operate without it, It's no biggy but a bit like having a big bon fire in your back yard it don't hurt to have a hose & a bucket ready.
Bit of a long way for me to do it, but glad it's getting sorted :)
LeperousDust
26-02-2009, 19:11
Bum sticks, i've just failed my MOT for holing in the offside seatbelt anchorage and suspension mounting, and advisories in the nearside. Need to find myself a welder now asap as i'm not even allowed to move it from the garage without a booking, and the garage i failed at don't do welding. I suspect its going to cost me a small fortune :(
Huh? Mine failed on welding but with the MOT fail you are allowed to drive to a place of repair (mine being my house). If you want to take it to a garage then book it in and give your reg over. That way if the coppers stop you, its a pre-booked appointment.
I'll be taking mine back for a retest tomorrow and its booked in with the reg.
edit:- Should add it came to £95 and he treated the inside of the area with hammerite while he had the hole cut out. Nothing bad in there either bar that little bit.
!!! Disconnect the car's battery too - you'd be amazed at how often people forget to do this !!!
They can stop you driving the car if they deem it unsafe. Unfortunately that means you've got to trailer it somewhere.
Say the tow truck costs £100, maybe £200 in work (because you always get rip-off rates with welding), weigh up if it's worth it.
LeperousDust
27-02-2009, 12:24
Hmmmm i was in no position to argue obviously, but i said can't i take it home and leave it on the drive and he flat out said no thats still breaking the law, it can only be driven to a pre booked garage appointment or something else, which leads to proper hassle. Thing is i don't have a drive in Edinburgh, but i was gonna take it down to a "free to park" road where it would be left alone whilst i get something sorted out, as it stands i told him fine. But its staying in you're carpark since i can't move it!
Hmmm,
Refusal of an MOT Test Certificate
Form VT30 – Refusal of an MOT Test Certificate. A red form with minor details of your car, the name of tester and address of test station. This form lists the items your car failed to pass.
A Refusal of an MOT Test Certificate means one or more items have failed to meet the minimum legal requirements for a pass. The item(s) will be listed on the form. If you intend to use your car on the roads, the item(s) will need to be replaced/repaired urgently. It may be possible to arrange replacement/repair of failed item(s) at the test station premises, to enable your car to achieve an MOT test pass Certificate before you drive the car away.
However, if you intend to drive your car away from the test station with a Refusal of an MOT Test Certificate, there are some stipulations. It is illegal to drive a car of MOT-testable age that does not have a current MOT test certificate on public roads, with the exception of driving it away to a place of repair, which may include your home residence. From there you may be permitted to drive to a pre-booked place of repair, and to a pre-booked MOT test station.
It is not illegal to sell a car with a Refusal of an MOT Test Certificate, however, a buyer may be breaking the law by driving it away, unless the stipulations above are satisfied. Even then it is not guaranteed that you will not be prosecuted for driving an unroadworthy car, and your insurance may be invalidated.
From
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A12921581
Loads of other sources for this. Can't find the official vosa one though (its hidden in their website). I did find it for my mr2 just incase it failed.
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As Johnny has said, if it is in a really bad way then it still can be stopped by the police. Also agree in that you need to weigh up what its worth.
edit:- actually says the above on the failure sheet.
LeperousDust
27-02-2009, 14:42
Yeah to be fair i've got nowhere to put it, its just a piss take its miles away so getting there is annoying and i had to get home without it. I don't think its unsafe, because to be fair it wasn't even an advisory on the last MOT? Now suddenly nearside is an advisory and offside is fail. I don't want to argue because i want it fixed (i mean it's structural) but i think they're being a little over zealous... About to start phoning around for welding now, i know i've about to be financially bum raped and really cba, how do you get quotes on something they can't see? I might go grab the car and drive it to a garage near-ish-by and see what they've got quote wise... :) Arse.
I can haz MOT :party2:
Its only now I realise just how much I missed driving it over the winter months when it was in bits. The Focus you can throw around, but it doesn't talk back to you through the car.
Off the roundabout, 2nd gear foot to the floor. As the revs grew, so did my grin. As I dropped it into 3rd, my grin was definitely extending from one side of the car to the other. The guy in the Mondeo didn't look impressed though as he was left standing when mine came on cam.
edit:- I'll post some pics tomorrow of the work.
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