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Surveillance video released in an assault case against a King County, Wash. sheriff's deputy shows him kicking a young girl, slamming her to the jail cell floor and striking her repeatedly. The deputy has pleaded not guilty in case. (Feb. 27)
Looks like his temper got the best of him, doesn't bode well, particularly given she was in the jail cell already.
FrostedNipple
28-02-2009, 23:17
Serves her right, silly little tart. If she is going to push her luck i don't have any sympathy. If she thought she was innocent then she can just wait it out. I feel sorry for the cop who will probably be at least reprimanded because she deicided to break the law and then purposely annoy the policemen.
From the way she flung her shoe out the door, I reckon she was probably being an annoying ****, so she probably brought it on herself.
Tis Faysh,
Working in the same environment, that was WAY over the top from the cop, he could've just closed the cell door and left the silly little bint to it. As I have on numerous occasions. I've only ever gone "hands on" to effect a search or to prevent a prisoner from harming themselves.
And his ground pin technique leaves a lot to be desired.
TinkerBell
01-03-2009, 10:37
I have to agree with Faysh, even if she was being an annoying teenager as a cop you can't react like that. You can't just beat someone up because they are being annoying. So he deserves what he gets not her.
You can't just beat someone up because they are being annoying.
Sadly. ;)
For the benefit of the tape, I am joking.
A Place of Light
01-03-2009, 12:05
If you want to play lumberjack, you have to be able to handle your end of the log ;)
cleanbluesky
01-03-2009, 12:30
Nice UFC video
semi-pro waster
01-03-2009, 15:35
That looks like a total overreaction by the deputy, there might be more to it than is on the video but I'm struggling to think of anything that would excuse hitting her in that fashion, particularly when she was already on the floor and not struggling. All that needed to be done was to close the door and leave her to her temper tantrum.
Also pleading not guilty? I'd be interested to hear the defence and reasoning for that.
All that needed to be done was to close the door and leave her to her temper tantrum.
And spend the rest of the shift laughing at her on CCTV. ;)
Von Smallhausen
01-03-2009, 16:38
It is people like him that makes a lot of people think that they are going to get a shoeing when they are in police custody.
There is not one iota of justification for what he has done.
Faysh will back me up in that there are times when considerable force has to be used on a violent detainee in custody but it has to be proportionate and that is why I did not have a complaint against me until recenty, my first one in nearly 9 years. I was gutted to be told I was under investigation, not due to anything to hide but the very fact that I had my first complaint.
Faysh will back me up in that there are times when considerable force has to be used on a violent detainee in custody but it has to be proportionate and that is why I did not have a complaint against me until recenty, my first one in nearly 9 years. I was gutted to be told I was under investigation, not due to anything to hide but the very fact that I had my first complaint.
I've had one complaint in 2 years. PSD (Professional Standards Dept) said I acted lawfully and proportionatly and they recommended no further action. The investigating officer didn't even interview me, just viewed CCTV and spoke to the Custody skipper.
Von Smallhausen
01-03-2009, 19:20
I've had one complaint in 2 years. PSD (Professional Standards Dept) said I acted lawfully and proportionatly and they recommended no further action. The investigating officer didn't even interview me, just viewed CCTV and spoke to the Custody skipper.
There is no question of corruption in my complaint. Several of my old shift are being investigated as a punter is complaining as to how we dealt with a job.
I was handed a Reg 9 a while back and invited to reply by letter which I have done. It is likely I will be interviewed under caution at some point.
I wish I could say more to put you in the picture but you know how it is.
Ouch! I think he needs a new HRT patch :( Shes on his turf, he's physically always going to have the upper hand, shame on him.
Sorry, but that's the sort of thing nobody needs and I'd be mighty surprised if he doesn't lose his job over that. I'm all for being hard with some of the arseholes who put themselves in positions like that, but his actions are totally unjustified from what I can see.
I've had one complaint in 2 years. PSD (Professional Standards Dept) said I acted lawfully and proportionatly and they recommended no further action. The investigating officer didn't even interview me, just viewed CCTV and spoke to the Custody skipper.
Wow.. has it really been 2 years now? Time doesn't half fly :)
Wow.. has it really been 2 years now? Time doesn't half fly :)
It'll be 2 years in May. Tempus does indeed fugit.
I think the actions shown in this video are apalling.
I completely understand and agree with the use of substantial force when it is required for the safety of the prisoner / staff but this certainly did not seem like the case.
They could have quite simply closed the door - no matter what she was shouting they should have showed discipline!
Bloody hell, thats one kicking!! Ok so maybe he had a bad shift and she was the last straw but even so that is out of order and I'd be very shocked if he has a job to go back to.
Serves her right, silly little tart. If she is going to push her luck i don't have any sympathy. If she thought she was innocent then she can just wait it out. I feel sorry for the cop who will probably be at least reprimanded because she deicided to break the law and then purposely annoy the policemen.
From the way she flung her shoe out the door, I reckon she was probably being an annoying ****, so she probably brought it on herself.
So you honestly think that was the right way to handle it? To throw around a 15 year old girl, smack her in the head twice and drag her by the hair?
The deputy in question was so far out of order it's untrue, if this was a 20 something drunk bloke who could handle himself in a fight, then fair enough, but a kid? Bang out of order.
A Place of Light
02-03-2009, 19:19
Without hearing what happened before this, it's just not possible to clamber onto a high horse on this.
For all any of us know, she could've just stabbed his partner.
Appropriate? No.
Understandable given the right kind of provocation? Possibly.
Everyone has a breaking point, and it is possible that this video doesn't show the actions of a thug.....it shows the result of a man at the end of his tether.
Appropriate? No.
Understandable given the right kind of provocation? No.
Fixed, she's in a cell with an inch and a half thick steel door, use it! She was already behind it and it could've all been over. No amount of provocation form a prisoner warrants that response.
Everyone has a breaking point, and it is possible that this video doesn't show the actions of a thug.....it shows the result of a man at the end of his tether.
Again, as I and others who work in this environment have said, there's no excuse for letting a prisoner wind you up to that extent. There's a door there use it.
Again, as I and others who work in this environment have said, there's no excuse for letting a prisoner wind you up to that extent. There's a door there use it.
My first thought on watching the video was this, and then also that surely the officer could/should be in a position of "smug moral superiority" :)
"smug moral superiority" :)
Otherwise known as watching through the spyhole in the door and taking the piss watching them on CCTV as they have a tantrum.
The best ones are the ones who genuinely believe they can roundhouse kick/punch/shoulderbarge a 1.5" solid steel door open. ;D
The officer obviously has issues of some sort. Really, is it appropriate to have his sort working in the police force?
A Place of Light
04-03-2009, 00:31
Fixed, she's in a cell with an inch and a half thick steel door, use it! She was already behind it and it could've all been over. No amount of provocation form a prisoner warrants that response.
No, it doesn't.
However that's not what I said, is it?
What I did say, is that if certain events had occured before what we see on the video, it would be understandable.
Wrong, but understandable.....in the same way that if someone murdered one of your children then it'd be understandable if you took matters into your own hands and did the same to them.
No, it doesn't.
However that's not what I said, is it?
What I did say, is that if certain events had occured before what we see on the video, it would be understandable.
Wrong, but understandable.....in the same way that if someone murdered one of your children then it'd be understandable if you took matters into your own hands and did the same to them.
If you're the sort of person that reacts like that, then custody isn't for you. I've had threats of violence, death threats, invitations to go toe to toe, wishes that I die of cancer and been called every name under the sun but I've never risen to the bait.
Well I did once but the guy ended up crying.
A Place of Light
04-03-2009, 19:03
If you're the sort of person that reacts like that, then custody isn't for you. I've had threats of violence, death threats, invitations to go toe to toe, wishes that I die of cancer and been called every name under the sun but I've never risen to the bait.
Well I did once but the guy ended up crying.
Hey, for all I know the guy in question is a complete knucklehead who has done this type of thing a million times. All I'm saying is that the video only shows the end result, and that there may well be significant provocation behind his reactions.
Everyone will snap if the right buttons are pressed, it's just that most normal people never have to deal with the type of situation that might cause them to react so out of character.
Von Smallhausen
04-03-2009, 21:33
Without hearing what happened before this, it's just not possible to clamber onto a high horse on this.
For all any of us know, she could've just stabbed his partner.
Appropriate? No.
Understandable given the right kind of provocation? Possibly.
Everyone has a breaking point, and it is possible that this video doesn't show the actions of a thug.....it shows the result of a man at the end of his tether.
If a prisoner winds you up to the point of assaulting them then you are in the wrong job.
The officer obviously has issues of some sort. Really, is it appropriate to have his sort working in the police force?
Dunno, porbably best place for him- means he can take his aggression out on crims rather than children or kittens ;)
A Place of Light
05-03-2009, 01:29
If a prisoner winds you up to the point of assaulting them then you are in the wrong job.
Possibly, but as I said everyone has they're limits and will snap once you go beyond them. The man in question, and yourself, are human beings remember.
Agreed, people will snap. It's how it's dealt with now that matters.
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