View Full Version : Important changes to Ryan Air travel...
Admiral Huddy
06-03-2009, 17:45
1. You must now insert £1 for your air mask in the event of an emergency.
2. All woman are to travel naked to make the planes lighter and therefore economical
3. It is mandatory to travel with a cashless card like Barclays Glide so that a payment of £10 can be collected when disembarking on water, say the Hudson :)
4. Aircraft now only have only one wing.. This guarantees you a return flight in the same trip.
5. Sharp instruments are banned. This means all todgers have to pass the bottle test before being permitted onboard!
They've released a new safety card too:
http://i409.photobucket.com/albums/pp174/pauleagles/card.jpg
TinkerBell
06-03-2009, 18:14
LOL Oh dear. I am hoping these aren't true!
I wouldn't fly with Ryan Air anyway after hearing from my Grandy about her experience with them.
my last flight was with RyanAir. to Ireland. was a decent flight i thought
maybe they've got worse since august i guess :/
LeperousDust
06-03-2009, 18:47
Theres nothing wrong with them at all. People complain about ryanair, but when you're flying for a penny somewhere what the **** does anyone expect? The planes still pass very rigorous standards, the service is none existent, but thats the whole frigging point! You're not paying for any service!
what the **** does anyone expect?
I expect the cabin crew to retract the steps before moving off but I can remember 2 occasions when passengers have had to tell cabin crew that the steps were still extended.
I expect the cabin crew to let people get seated before giving the captain the nod to push off stand. On the last RA flight I took there were at least 10 passengers still in the process of finding a seat when the plane pushed back.
I refuse point blank to fly with RyanAir. They're not as cheap as they imply on their advertising and they are a complete shower of s***e when it comes to dealing with cancelled flights.
I always found the baggage limit rules amusing.
If two people travel, you get 10kg each. But it is strictly each, as in 2 bags. You can't have one bag between you that weighs 20kg, that incurs an £80 fee.
semi-pro waster
06-03-2009, 19:31
Theres nothing wrong with them at all. People complain about ryanair, but when you're flying for a penny somewhere what the **** does anyone expect? The planes still pass very rigorous standards, the service is none existent, but thats the whole frigging point! You're not paying for any service!
I'd quite like to be able to spend a penny without having to actually get change to do so.
I don't really expect much from a budget airline but it's always nice if they get you there relatively on time because I've usually got connections to make at the other end, aside from that and the ability to relieve myself should I feel it necessary (it works for stretching the legs too) then I don't have any further requirements.
It's anecdotal to me but I'm sure I've seen Danny suggesting that RyanAir planes aren't the most stringently maintained in the World, I could be wrong on that though of course. :)
LeperousDust
06-03-2009, 19:36
They do slyly advertise things, and rules are very strict but they really are the cheapest. I'm flying to Belfast again for 2p return, literally 2p. Where can you beat that?
Divine what i find funny is you're only allowed x amount of luggage but you can wear whatever you want. Next time i fly, i'll have a tiny bag, but i'll be wearing 10 layers and look like the buckaroo donkey getting on the plane.
Ryanair do my nut in. Only flown with then twice, and that was 2 too many times.
I don't think I would fly on Ryanair even if there was no other choice. I'm surprised they haven't figured out a way to charge passengers for breathing yet. How much does providing breathable air to passengers cost them?
I went to Dublin with them a couple of weeks back. They did exactly what it said on the tin, I got there on time and we didn't crash. If I want comfort then I'd expect to pay for it.
LeperousDust
06-03-2009, 21:23
I went to Dublin with them a couple of weeks back. They did exactly what it said on the tin, I got there on time and we didn't crash. If I want comfort then I'd expect to pay for it.
Finally; some sense!
I'd hold my breath if it saved me money ;)
The planes still pass very rigorous standards, the service is none existent,
They don't. The lack of maintenance, standard of maintenance and quality of mechanics is a joke.
One of my friends has just parted company with them because he couldn't stand being pressurised to over stamp mechanics work who clearly had no clue.
I would honestly love to go into detail but not on an open forum :)
They are the only company worse than easyJet, but that's just my opinion. They don't claim to be good although two things do bug me...
I really don't understand why neither EJ or Ryanair can afford to put seat numbers on tickets either - I don't require a service to pick my seat 24h in advance for a 16h flight, but I do appreciate being able to sit next to my friend or relative.
Being courteous (or even civil) costs nothing. Neither does keeping passengers informed as to the reason for the 2 hour delay, or telling them there will be one rather than just never releasing the gate number while stuck in a spanish airport at 2am or something.
They're like british rail, they always get you there, eventually. (Waits for comment about prices).
Blighter
06-03-2009, 23:34
Ryanair are fine. I use them to Spain loads!
Got a return flight end of next month for £20 return + £10 baggage. (That's including taxes, and other fees).
Sorry, I have to rant :)
Getting to Spain is cheap, it justs costs a bomb over there with 1:1 on the €! I rememeber when I got 240p / £ and it really was cheap over there! This was about 12 years ago though.
Ryanair are fine.
No, they're really not. They like cutting corners to save time/money, and while that's fine within reason, there's always the risk they'll go one step too far and skip something that matters (like safety). While EJ do the same to some extent, they don't turn up in the press every other month for their latest scheme.
It's also very easy to get into situations (usually at the airport when it's too late) where you end up paying more for the 'privilege' of flying Ryanair than you would with another budget carrier. Luggage is a very good example of that as pointed out above. I'm not sure I've ever packed a travel bag that weighs less than 10kg. ;D
Blighter
07-03-2009, 00:09
No, they're really not. They like cutting corners to save time/money, and while that's fine within reason, there's always the risk they'll go one step too far and skip something that matters (like safety). While EJ do the same to some extent, they don't turn up in the press every other month for their latest scheme.
It's also very easy to get into situations (usually at the airport when it's too late) where you end up paying more for the 'privilege' of flying Ryanair than you would with another budget carrier. Luggage is a very good example of that as pointed out above. I'm not sure I've ever packed a travel bag that weighs less than 10kg. ;D
People that get charged more at the airport for breaking limits (however low they may be) are just plain stupid in my opinion.
When booking you get told the exact weights, sizes and other guidelines so if you don't follow them then it's your own darn fault ;D
As for paying less and making it less safe goes for everything though. I'm more tempted to get a ped then a car to drive to work, even though I know I will be more accident prone. It's my choice to sacrifice certain things in exchange for parting with less cash.
If I want a nice flight with decent restriction levels and friendly service, I would go with BA or someone. But I don't, so I go with Ryanair.
It's just like going to Primark, buying something for £2 then complaining 6 months later because the stitching has come out ;)
It's just like going to Primark, buying something for £2 then complaining 6 months later because the stitching has come out ;)
The Primark comparison is more apt than you probably realise given some of Primark's suppliers penchant for 'sweatshop' working conditions. :)
Having said that, I don't have a problem with budget stuff (of either the EasyJet or Primark variety), but there are limits to that.
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Is it true what I heard from a Pilot friend that ex RyanAir Pilots can have real problems getting employment elsewhere because of bad habits they pick up at RA?
The example I was given was (I think) that Pilots must set a piece of GPS equipment when on stand but RA pilots had such a short turn around that they were encouraged to reset it whilst taxing to the runway.
And it seems they're a few steps away from making the seat a chargeable extra. No doubt with cabin air, the oxygen mask and lifejacket to follow as per the instructions Burble posted.
Ryanair also confirmed it had been in talks with European safety regulators about proposals to allow passengers to stand on its flights.
Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8160923.stm)
I'm not sure about the relative probability of severe turbulence over land, but you get it in that situation and you've got concussed passengers and law suits. Nicely done! :rolleyes:
As this thread has been bumped ;D
They are the only company worse than easyJet, but that's just my opinion. They don't claim to be good although two things do bug me...
I really don't understand why neither EJ or Ryanair can afford to put seat numbers on tickets either - I don't require a service to pick my seat 24h in advance for a 16h flight, but I do appreciate being able to sit next to my friend or relative.
Being courteous (or even civil) costs nothing. Neither does keeping passengers informed as to the reason for the 2 hour delay, or telling them there will be one rather than just never releasing the gate number while stuck in a spanish airport at 2am or something.
They're like british rail, they always get you there, eventually. (Waits for comment about prices).
Seat numbers costs money. Not on printing but allocating in the first place. It takes extra time and holds up check in while people whine about sitting in a certain place. You need more staff. Much easier to just have 140 seats and whoever gets there first gets them.
Personally I'd like to see seat allocation on our flights so we could prosecute the gay men that like to nick seatbelts off our flights.
No, they're really not. They like cutting corners to save time/money, and while that's fine within reason, there's always the risk they'll go one step too far and skip something that matters (like safety). While EJ do the same to some extent, they don't turn up in the press every other month for their latest scheme.
I can tell you without a shadow of doubt working at Easyjets main base that there isn't one of our permie members of staff that put money before safety, ever. I've never seen anyone have any qualms about grounding a flight and kicking off punters if they think there is a safety issue.
Yet there are much larger higher profile Airlines in this country and europe where it's well known the airlines are deferring defects until the last leg of the day and Europe sits back and lets it happen.
Is it true what I heard from a Pilot friend that ex RyanAir Pilots can have real problems getting employment elsewhere because of bad habits they pick up at RA?
The example I was given was (I think) that Pilots must set a piece of GPS equipment when on stand but RA pilots had such a short turn around that they were encouraged to reset it whilst taxing to the runway.
Nah it's not a long job to re-align the IRS. 6 or 7 minutes. When you consider how long it takes to offload and reload the time frame isn't the issue it would be lazyness.
And it seems they're a few steps away from making the seat a chargeable extra. No doubt with cabin air, the oxygen mask and lifejacket to follow as per the instructions Burble posted.
I'm not sure about the relative probability of severe turbulence over land, but you get it in that situation and you've got concussed passengers and law suits. Nicely done! :rolleyes:
It's Ryanair, it's what they do. Hit the headlines with a load of old balls and it works. You will never be able to stand on a flight and they know that already. A part of me would love to see him go bust for his practices with employees and safety, also the way he hints at other companies going under to create a false uncertainty with that airline. That costs normal people in the street jobs.
AboveTheSalt
21-07-2009, 16:36
I really don't understand why neither EJ or Ryanair can afford to put seat numbers on tickets either - I don't require a service to pick my seat 24h in advance for a 16h flight, but I do appreciate being able to sit next to my friend or relative.Because they save money by not allocating a seat and can then make money by charging you to board first and because not allocating a seat encourages people to board fast rather than spending those last few moments browsing in duty-free; RyanAir & EasyJet win all round and one can't entirely blame them in view of people's casual approach to getting to the flight on time :angry:
Admiral Huddy
21-07-2009, 16:38
Have you seen how quickly they turn around those flights? Under an allocation scheme this would double..
Yep we have 30 minutes to fix any defect during the day, defer it or deck it.
Funniest I've ever had is an engine snag late evening. I got called out the aircraft was full and as a second check I ran the engine with 140 punters onboard. The engine lit up in a fireball and continued spitting them out, up until I shutdown. ;D
As I left the flight deck I looked down the cabin and saw a mass of panic. I fully expected to be in the Sun the next day ;D Would have made a great picture.
Needless to say they switched aircraft.
Are you sure there wasn't a fireball-chucking Imp from hell in there? ;D
Is the procedure on the 737-800 for aligning the IRSs the same as on the 744, ie IRS switches from OFF thru ALIGN to NAV and then go through POS INIT on the FMC? IIRC it's about a ten minute procedure for the alignment to happen.
(I had to dig out my Big Boeing FMC User's Guide for that!)
Pretty much the same although you can quick align if you know where you are or manually input the position. We auto align and it takes about 7-8 minutes. It depends on where you are as to how long it takes.
Big Boeing FMC book haha, one of my collegues has a lady bird book of airplanes. He likes to pull that out every time he gets called out to a new pilot.
They tell him the problem and he says, let me just consult the manual. The face is usually priceless.
Heh heh, that'd be worth videoing! In all seriousness though, the Big Boeing FMC guide (http://www.afeonline.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=1601) is pretty good. I bought it a few years ago when I was doing an awful lot of 747PS1 (http://www.aerowinx.com/) flying and it's quite incredible how detailed the sim was. So much so that when I had a session on the 744 sim at Heathrow I fixed the fuel feed configuration issue that the *ahem* fairly new trainer didn't know how to fix! It was quite funny when we landed for the first time and I did all the autobrakes and shizzle, just from using the PC sim which she immediately disengaged!
I don't mind RyanAir. I wouldn't want to fly long haul with them, but if it was cheap enough, I'd certainly consider it. Their hidden baggage and check-in charges annoy me no end, but apart from that I've never really had a problem. If it wasn't for the likes of EasyJet & RyanAir, Leon & I wouldn't have done as much travelling as we have.
Heh heh, that'd be worth videoing! In all seriousness though, the Big Boeing FMC guide (http://www.afeonline.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=1601) is pretty good. I bought it a few years ago when I was doing an awful lot of 747PS1 (http://www.aerowinx.com/) flying and it's quite incredible how detailed the sim was. So much so that when I had a session on the 744 sim at Heathrow I fixed the fuel feed configuration issue that the *ahem* fairly new trainer didn't know how to fix! It was quite funny when we landed for the first time and I did all the autobrakes and shizzle, just from using the PC sim which she immediately disengaged!
Yeah I never use the FMC for any of those features. No need for an engineer to use them other than for maintenance and I've never been into sims or any real interest in aircraft other than my wages.
Even when we have Sim days I usually use that section to catch up on some sleep and let the other guys have my slot to play at flying. Without guns or being able to skim london at 50ft I always get bored ;D
I don't mind RyanAir. I wouldn't want to fly long haul with them, but if it was cheap enough, I'd certainly consider it. Their hidden baggage and check-in charges annoy me no end, but apart from that I've never really had a problem. If it wasn't for the likes of EasyJet & RyanAir, Leon & I wouldn't have done as much travelling as we have.
Yeah even with the charges people don't seem to be able to accept how cheap it still is. I can into europe for cheaper than a taxi to town but people get upset when the £5 flight actually turns out to be £30-40.
Stan_Lite
22-07-2009, 07:51
I don't mind RyanAir. I wouldn't want to fly long haul with them, but if it was cheap enough, I'd certainly consider it. Their hidden baggage and check-in charges annoy me no end, but apart from that I've never really had a problem. If it wasn't for the likes of EasyJet & RyanAir, Leon & I wouldn't have done as much travelling as we have.
I would pretty much echo everything Kate says. For many, budget airlines represent the only affordable means of travelling to many places. Without these options, many of them would not be able to visit the places they do.
I'm also not a fan of hidden baggage charges etc. Ryanair are by no means the only company guilty of this practice though - even Flybe, who now operate the lifeline Loganair service to Shetland, do this (much to the annoyance of Shetlanders).
I would also like to add that convenience is another factor - budget airlines fly from places people want to fly from to places people want to fly to. Full service airlines don't, they expect you to make your way to where they want to fly from.
I will be booking flights for my annual holiday in Lanzarote with my parents soon. Jet2.com fly direct from Newcastle airport to Lanzarote and the return fare is around £230. If I pay the extra for a meal and a couple of drinks, the cost would still be about £100 less than it would if I travelled to another airport (Glasgow) and used a full service airline like BA. Taking the BA Glasgow route would also double my journey time. I don't know about anybody else but I don't care how budget the airline is, if it keeps my journey time down to a minimum, they'll do for me. I'd be mad to spend an extra £100 to double my journey time.
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