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Matblack
16-03-2009, 09:56
I need to sort myself out, I've been promising I'll do it since I found out last year I was on the low end of being diabetic. Since then I've done nothing towards sorting myself out really and I can't really afford to keep putting it off.
Today I decided to make a small change to my lifestyle and leave the car at home and walk to work, I've avoided this up till now because work is on the other side of the valley that forms Maidstone and it up the longest steepest hill in town :shocked:. Anyway its only 2 miles (pretty much solidly uphill though) and it took me 30 minutes whhich is 4mph which isn't great but I'll be looking to improve on that day on day. I'm cutting out the alcohol for a while too and decreasing sugars and simple carbs in favor of complex carbs.
One good thing about my walk to work is it takes me pretty close to the local gym so after a couple of weeks I plan to drop into the gym on the way to work and do some weights and later (once I'm used to this walk) to add in some extra cardio too. I'm hoping the walk will just become part of my routine and not something I consider to be part of my fitness push.
Anyway I'll try to keep a rough log of whats happening even if its just 1) walked to work
MB
Stan_Lite
16-03-2009, 10:00
Good for you Matt.
Now is a good time to start. Hopefully the better weather will be here soon and it'll be pleasant enough to walk most days.
As I said in my thread, I started doing exactly the same a few weeks ago and once I noticed it was making a difference, it spurred me on to take the next step and get a little more involved. Good luck with your effort and just take things at your own pace :)
Del Lardo
16-03-2009, 10:10
Good start. Don't underestimate how much good the walking will do you.
Matblack
16-03-2009, 10:26
Ahhh, a quick point
No weighing will be taking place for the foreseeable future, I become very obsessive with weighing, having been know to only weigh after my morning actvities and then possible 3 more times a day. Although this worked for me it did become a rod which I beat myself with on a few occasions. Until I start properly at the gym (BfL) I'll be using the jeans-o-meter only. Might weight once just to get a starting weight (and scare myself) but thats it :)
MB
I started this months ago, started to bike it to college, been doing that since Jan and I can see my fitness level go from a fat **** to healthy, its up hill coming home so I get a good work out and I just jump on my bike and go for rides, gave up alcohol for Lent and its the best thing I have done, I am getting up early every day and stopped having late nights and feel generally much butter from it.
Matblack
16-03-2009, 10:37
I started this months ago, started to bike it to college, been doing that since Jan and I can see my fitness level go from a fat **** to healthy, its up hill coming home so I get a good work out and I just jump on my bike and go for rides, gave up alcohol for Lent and its the best thing I have done, I am getting up early every day and stopped having late nights and feel generally much butter from it.
I was laying in bed last night thinking 'I wonder if I could bike the route', after walking it this morning I'm pretty sure that unless I was super fit it would be pretty much impossible. There are probably 2 short sections where I would be able to ride rather than have get off and push, coming home would be fun though :D
MB
Stan_Lite
16-03-2009, 11:14
I was laying in bed last night thinking 'I wonder if I could bike the route', after walking it this morning I'm pretty sure that unless I was super fit it would be pretty much impossible. There are probably 2 short sections where I would be able to ride rather than have get off and push, coming home would be fun though :D
MB
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeee :D
I used to take my bike to the pub when I lived up in Shetland. It was great fun going there - all downhill but it was about a mile and a half uphill getting back. There was no way I was cycling a mile and a half uphill pished so I used to phone a taxi to pick me up and told them to send one of the minibus type ones so I could get the pushbike in :D
Good luck with it Mr B. :)
Blighter
16-03-2009, 13:02
Walking to and from work is awesome. Really wakes me up and gets me going :) Also gives you time to chill out and listen to some funny podcasts :D
I walk from Penenden Heath (Top of Boxley hill) down to Maidstone Barracks every day, then back in the evening, also walk from Greenhithe station to Bluewater so that's about a 7 mile trip each day.
Right with you there. Walking can seem boring but not with podcasts. I try and do an hour a day. With a decent podcast it's fun. It's alone time. It's a break. I need to kick it up a notch. If I walk to work and then walk home later I should be able to do the 10,000 steps a day. The bitch is that I work from home so it's very hard to be motivated first thing. Good luck mate.
Blighter
16-03-2009, 14:43
If I walk to work and then walk home later I should be able to do the 10,000 steps a day. The bitch is that I work from home.
Is it just me that is confused here? ;D
I have to say that fitness is something you notice when you start playing sports to quite a high level again... I thought I was fit, but the rugby has highlighted issues which have been addressed. I can now run the full 80 mins (and sometimes some emphatic powerful sprints and tackles) without dropping dead - unlike my first game where I felt I needed a heart transplant! lol!
Stan_Lite
16-03-2009, 15:30
Is it just me that is confused here? ;D
Bloody big house :D
Piggymon
16-03-2009, 19:40
Go MB ! :cool:
Bloody big house :D
haha. It means I have to go out and walk to "work".
Nice one MB and a good time of year to start too. I used to walk 2 miles to Uni & back every day and really noticed it when I'd left. Like Del said, don't under estimate the amount of good it'll do you :)
MapMyRun is good if you want to keep a log of all your miles. I find that it's really helped my motivation. I'm aiming for 2 marathons worth of distance in March and am halfway at the moment.
Matblack
16-03-2009, 23:31
Nice one MB and a good time of year to start too. I used to walk 2 miles to Uni & back every day and really noticed it when I'd left. Like Del said, don't under estimate the amount of good it'll do you :)
MapMyRun is good if you want to keep a log of all your miles. I find that it's really helped my motivation. I'm aiming for 2 marathons worth of distance in March and am halfway at the moment.
That's bloody brilliant, I've added my route to and from work and saved them and then added them to my personal workout log, thats going to help me keep track of my walking :smug:
Thanks Kate :)
MB
If you have an iPhone you can get an app like Trailguru or TrackThing and that will track you're adventures via gps. With one you can upload the data and it logs it so you can track performance and calories burnt. Brilliant stuff really.
Matblack
16-03-2009, 23:44
If you have an iPhone you can get an app like Trailguru or TrackThing and that will track you're adventures via gps. With one you can upload the data and it logs it so you can track performance and calories burnt. Brilliant stuff really.
That's pretty much what map my run does, as I walk the same route I can program it though rather than use GPS :) My phone doesn't have it, I may get an iPhone in the summer though :cool:
MB
Ah cool. The iPhone one is great if you get distracted by a random naked band of cheerleaders out jogging and you decided to follow them. Happens to me all the time ;)
You can upload GPS data to MMR if you ever get that fancy. Glad you like it MB. I quite looking at my training log to see how much exercise I've done in the last month. Very satisfying. You don't have to fill in all that mood/diet crap every day either.
Matblack
17-03-2009, 09:47
This is hard work! That bloody hill is a killer!
To be honest though with an mp3 player its tollerable and I know its doing me good, the only thing which annoys me is I have to huff and puff my way past about 6 secondary schools, and a fat bloke with a red face seems to be a source of amusement to the students :/
However my attitude is **** them, they'll see worse things today and in a few months when I get down to a more normal weight they won't even notice me so I don't really care :)
I thought to myself this morning 'I'm fat but Im getting thinnner, no ammount of exercise is going to make you any less of a ****'
MB
I've always said that hills need escaltors.
Matblack
17-03-2009, 10:15
Heres a map of the gradient
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/602/gradient.jpg
No real let up after the first dip down in the valley and over the river, I have to say that MMR is an excellent tool :)
MB
I used to do a mile back and forth between City Thameslink and the office in Holborn, a lovely walk, slightly up hill all the way in to work. Used to try to push myself to go as fast as possible and had it down to about 13 minutes. Saw a great improvement in my fitness levels when I did that.
There was a direct train that left City Thameslink at 18:17 and I made it with a good margin to spare 95% of the time, not bad given I'd finish at 18:00 and had to pack up and get out of the building and past the maddening crowd around Holborn tube station.
The route (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=51.516474,-0.102997&daddr=21+Southampton+Row,+Holborn&hl=en&geocode=&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=0&sz=16&rtol=1&dirflg=w&sll=51.515727,-0.102932&sspn=0.006556,0.019312&ie=UTF8&ll=51.517997,-0.109413&spn=0.006556,0.019312&z=16)
Is it just me that is confused here? ;D
If you've not twigged / not aware, Pete is a professional photographer. His work is being out on the streets of Liverpool taking photos :)
If you've not twigged / not aware, Pete is a professional photographer. His work is being out on the streets of Liverpool taking photos :)
Theres that :) Yesterday at work I walked about 6km around a shopping center. Surprisingly quite a distance given its only really 2 small roads. But on days when I'm stuck at the computer I have to force myself to go for a walk as if I'm walking to and from work. Still haven't managed that though. Just going for an hour at lunch really.
Looks like a pretty good route to me, MB. That hill will do you no end of good! I have 3 killer hills in my "long slow run" and although I hate every second of them, I know they're doing me the world of good in terms of fitness and stamina.
I hate running past any group of kids too, which is why I go out very early in the morning or around the reservoir. You've definitely got the right attitude though.
Well done :)
Matblack
18-03-2009, 10:08
Well 2 and a half days in and I've walked over 10 miles, half of it up hill, using MMR twice a day to log my walk to and from work,walk to work seems to be getting a bit easier although my feet are hurting a bit, I've switched over to wearing my NB 858s for the commute rather than my Salomon walking trainers as they have better cushioning but its still not great, probably down to being lazy for so long and then pounding my weight down onpavements I'm sure it will sort itself out :)
30 day plan to try and lose around 10lbs, sounds like a lot but when you are this size in my experience the first couple of stone com off pretty easily with a diet and exercise change, I was pretty disapointed to see that my walks only burn around 250Kcals each way, but I'm sure the kick to my metabolism and cutting out chocolate and sugar and alcohol will show more impact that just those 500Kcals a day exercise
MB
Blighter
18-03-2009, 16:33
Nice one MB :) Don't listen to the "only burns x kcals".. it's a load of bollox :p
Keep it going MB. I know where your coming from and how your feeling ;) just keep it going. Remember that postive life changes can be done with some little steps to start with
Nice one mate :)
It was that walk in the Discovery Centre that did it, wasn't it ;)
I'll not offer advice as I know you know what needs to be done. But I will offer my support in any way I can.
Stan_Lite
18-03-2009, 18:14
30 day plan to try and lose around 10lbs, sounds like a lot but when you are this size in my experience the first couple of stone com off pretty easily with a diet and exercise change, I was pretty disapointed to see that my walks only burn around 250Kcals each way, but I'm sure the kick to my metabolism and cutting out chocolate and sugar and alcohol will show more impact that just those 500Kcals a day exercise
MB
Like Blighter so eloquently suggests ;), I wouldn't put too much store in the calorie figures for your walks.
I made similar changes to you when I first set out on my fatbusting mission and I lost a stone in 3 weeks. As you say, us big chaps can lose a fair bit quite quickly before the slowdown starts and the hard work has to begin. Keep up the good work and you'll see the difference soon enough :)
At Stan points out MB, don't sit there watching the numbers. I know you'll spend too much time analysing everything...just get on a do what you know you have to do. Don't count the calories, don't count the miles. Adjust your lifestyle and let it do the rest :)
Matblack
18-03-2009, 18:48
Just had a wholemeal hot cross bun with no butter, I feel so naughty :)
MB
Blighter
18-03-2009, 18:52
Eurgh, Wholemeal *pukes*
;)
Stan_Lite
18-03-2009, 19:30
Eurgh, Wholemeal *pukes*
;)
Wholemeal rocks :cool:
Much more flavour than white stodgy stuff :p
Ooooo our trainers are related. I've got the 859's for my running shoes. Comfy as HELL :D Your feet are just getting used to things. They'll sort themselves out :)
Lost 2 pounds last week :D
Blighter
18-03-2009, 23:53
I just lost two pounds. On it's way to the sewage works as we speak.
Don't worry Blighter lad, you'd have only bought some other **** with it anyway.
Blighter
19-03-2009, 10:38
Don't worry Blighter lad, you'd have only bought some other **** with it anyway.
I meant in weight terms ;D
Matblack
19-03-2009, 11:01
I meant in weight terms ;D
Do me a favor and let me keep this thread on topic please
MB
Matblack
20-03-2009, 10:38
So far this week I've walked 17.5m and burned approx 2500 calories doing it. Doesn't seem a lot considering you need roughly a 3500 calorie intake vs burn difference to lose a lbs of fat but its a good start and as we've said increased exercise results in an increased metabolism and the ability to burn more calories whilst at rest.
I'll be trying to do some walking over the weekend and if that doesn't happen I'll burn a minimum of 280 on the cross trainer, mixing up my walking cardio exercise with crosstrainer HIIT is probably a good thing and should shock my system into giving up a few more calories.
I'm looking forward to the weekend and the Rugby, I'm not looking forward to watching it without my traditional can of cider but I will, I've vowed to stay away from beer and cider with a minimal number of drinks coming from clear sprits, I'm not giving up alcohol totally but I will be cutting down a lot, with recent publicity about regular rather than binge drinking being very damaging this is probably a very good thing :)
MB
leowyatt
20-03-2009, 10:51
Good start Matt :thumbsup:
Typical rule is 500cal deficit every day for a week will lead to 1lb loss a week.
As a rule men typically need 2500 cals a day - however someone like you is probably around 3000 for maintenance (though this depends on your activity, my basic need including all the exercise I do is well over 3000cals). You'd have to get the doctor to work out you MBR there are some average tools online which do it but I would use them only as a guideline.
So 2500 over 5 days is fantastic work as that's spot on really! :)
Matblack
20-03-2009, 11:16
Typical rule is 500cal deficit every day for a week will lead to 1lb loss a week.
As a rule men typically need 2500 cals a day - however someone like you is probably around 3000 for maintenance (though this depends on your activity, my basic need including all the exercise I do is well over 3000cals). You'd have to get the doctor to work out you MBR there are some average tools online which do it but I would use them only as a guideline.
So 2500 over 5 days is fantastic work as that's spot on really! :)
My special scales say my MBR is 2580 but special scales tend to lie, good thing is that they are very acurate for weighing and record my profile on a USB stick and draws a graph, how cool is that?......... Yes I know, not very :/
Anyway, we'll see what happens, I've not put a lot of store in what these things predict and from past experience everyone is a bit different. I'm keen to start lifting weights again but don't feel ready yet, I'd also like to build some extra HIIT cardio in to my walk to work, initially I was thinking when I starting going to the gym I'd take the car but I can't really see the necessity I plan to drop in during my morning walk when I do start :)
MB
Mixing HIIT and weight training will hit your body hard and the thermogenic effect from food will be a lot more noticeable too. :) On my iphone I have a weight tracker, but I'm trying to put on weight :p
Those scales may ore may not be accurate, however it's a base line and is constant so as long as you use the same equipment it should provide you with an indication of what you're needing.
I spoke to a PT friend of mine who did the whole BF% measurements and worked out my MBR, and purely owing to having more muscle mass I burn more calories just by being alive - I have softend in composition a little owing to a shoulder and hand injury (bloody rugby!) however as you say predictions are dangerous as you can obsessify over them a little.
What's stopping oyu from hitting the gym already?
Stan_Lite
20-03-2009, 11:54
I've been taking a scientific approach to my programme. Using the online formulae, my BMR works out at 2074. Next is the lifestyle factor to find ones TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure) this is widely given as a factor of 1.2 for a sedentary lifestyle up to 1.9 for very heavy exercise. So, multiplying my BMR by 1.2 gives me 2488 calories required to maintain my current bodyweight with a sedentary lifestyle.
I decided that sounded like a good number (it also makes meal planning much easier) so I prefer to make all of my calorie deficit from exercise, over and above my normal workload. My aim is to burn at least 500 extra calories a day in order to drop at least a pound a week. That way, not only do I lose weight but I also get myself fitter, faster (hopefully) and get my body accustomed to regular and plentiful exercise.
Obviously, as my weight drops, my BMR will drop and this will have to be taken into account when planning meals etc. To this end, I've made myself a spreadsheet into which I input my weight each week when I weigh in and it automagically updates my BMR and daily requirement and also my meal compositions based on a 50:30:20 split (Carbs:Protein:Fat). I can refer to this spreadsheet and instantly know that each of my 6 meals in the day should consist of 415 calories, made up of 52g carbs, 31g protein and 9g fat. Obviously, it's virtually impossible to get the exact ratio every time and the calculations are not precise but it's close enough to give me a guide as to how to build my meal plans.
All very complex and probably completely overthinking things but it seems to be working for me and I like being super organised when it comes to stuff like this (wish I could apply that to the rest of my life :o).
It might be over thinking things, but it gives you something to concentrate on and focus and be visually active with which more often than not helps. :)
Matblack
20-03-2009, 14:43
I maybe becoming adicted to this walking lark, I went out to buy my lunch and did 3 miles :) That'll be 7 miles for the day making a total of 22.5 miles this week so far, I'm going to try and do the marathon challenge before Monday and walk a marathon in a week :)
Heather wants to go to Bluewater on Sunday, its 1.8 miles around the edge of the car parks 2.2 laps for the 4 miles I need, beats shopping :)
MB
Piggymon
20-03-2009, 19:30
I love walking, I find it really clears my head :)
I've been taking a scientific approach to my programme. Using the online formulae, my BMR works out at 2074. Next is the lifestyle factor to find ones TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure) this is widely given as a factor of 1.2 for a sedentary lifestyle up to 1.9 for very heavy exercise. So, multiplying my BMR by 1.2 gives me 2488 calories required to maintain my current bodyweight with a sedentary lifestyle.
I've been curious about this kind of this.. so finding a few websites.
my BMR works out at 1689.8, apparently. Though stupid website can't understand I'm 6' 0" and kept insisting " figure had to be higher than 0, so I switched to Metric.
With my currently sedentary lifestyle that apparently means I need to consume 2028 calories to maintain my weight, so I guess from what Will was saying 2528 calories to gain 1lb per week?
Lana is more active than me so she needs to consume about the same calories as I do (just shy of 2k) to maintain weight.
I'm surprised if I eat that much at the moment. The lack of exercise means my appetite is down (plus it's warm out here and that always kills my appetite too) Guess maybe I need to look out for healthy high calorific, light weight foodstuffs.. and do a bit more exercise.
I wish more info was pushed on TDEE, or if not, something similar. The amount of people who look on packets and see the average calorific intake as gospel is probably overwhelming. I worked mine out ages ago and I only need 2000kcal a day to maintain. 2500 with a sedentary lifestyle would have me piling on the pounds (well, a pound a week!).
Stan_Lite
21-03-2009, 13:03
I wish more info was pushed on TDEE, or if not, something similar. The amount of people who look on packets and see the average calorific intake as gospel is probably overwhelming. I worked mine out ages ago and I only need 2000kcal a day to maintain. 2500 with a sedentary lifestyle would have me piling on the pounds (well, a pound a week!).
I'd never heard of it until I started doing some research to start on my current weight loss programme. My current TDEE is just under 2,500 for a sedentary lifestyle, by the time I reach my target weight, it'll be 2,200 - and I'll still be technically overweight.
If they're going to quote 2,500 calories, they should state that that's for people who do some moderate exercise and that the figure for couch potatoes is considerably lower.
Matblack
23-03-2009, 09:55
Did a medium walk at the weekend (5.2miles) to bring up the weeks total to ~28 miles walked.
Walking to work this morning my calves were hurting quite badly, I was able to keep going at a reasonable pace but its mildly concerning and will have to see how it pans out. Please with last weeks distance, dispite no noticable weight loss I do feel fitter and just need to keep plugging away. The goal is to make this a part of my normal activity and not part of any regimented weight loss program, once I increase my baseline fitness I intend to keep this up whilst adding in real cardio exercise on top :)
MB
Once I started doing that commute walk each day it took a good month for my calves to finally stop aching at the pace I was pushing :)
The important thing as far as I was concerned was how fast my legs recovered, and after the first week the calves were hurting for shorter lengths of time afterwards.
I am very envious of your mileage MB. I set myself the goal of running the mileage of 2 marathons in March and I just have 16 left to go so I should make it, provided nothing goes wrong. You've achieved half my monthly goal in just 1 week though, damn you!!! :)
As for your calves, well mine still ache after a long or particularly hilly run. Just as long as it's an ache and not proper searing pain then I wouldn't worry about it too much. I could barely climb the stairs the first few times I did Body Pump! Make sure your trainers are right for you too. I know you said you have some NB's, but I'm not sure how old they are.
http://is.gd/oZIA My short walk this morning. It's in the mid 20s during the day with a mix of overcast and sunny, and the route is fairly hilly in places. I've been becoming a bit of a couch potato (or would be if we had a couch) and need to rectify that. Did the route a few days ago but took a fair number of diversions as I had no idea where I was going, just general concepts of "sea is that way, mountains are behind me, Windward mall must be that way" etc.
http://twitpic.com/2fzt1
http://twitpic.com/2fzs6
I sweated bucket loads, and I think it may take a day for my legs to forgive me :D
Matblack
27-03-2009, 21:32
I've been slack this week, if I want to do my 26.5 miles I need to put in 7.5 on Sunday, I've planned a route and Aitch is up for it so as long as the weather holds out we'll be off rambling.
Apart from very painful shins and arches I'm enjoying walking, the walk to work has definately got easier and my body seems to be eating itself so that's good. My intake has been good this week no real slips, hardly any booze, no junk food, crisps or sweets :). I think I've lost a couple of lbs but I'm not getting hung up on it, there's a long way to go so no point in counting every single oz
The mileage comes easily Kate because I've committed myself to walking to and from work so that's 18.65m a week cleared without really thinking about it then I have to get some extra wanders in either at lunchtime or weekends, its nice to go walking with Aitch because we don't get a lot of time to talk in the week. I wouldn't compare our mileage as you'll be burning far more calories jogging than I an walking :)
MB
Well done Matt, you're doing really well. :)
You need to be very careful with your shins though. Are you stretching when you get to work? Shin splints I believe can happen to runners as well as walkers and you really really don't want them because the only way of recovery is complete rest for a couple of weeks.
Make sure you're stretching at least your shins and calves once you get to work. If they're really aching when you get home, get yourself a bag of frozen peas to apply as well. You probably already know how to do calf stretch, but here's a good shin one which won't make you look like an idiot:
http://www.kidsregen.org/naturalMoves/1101/stretches/images/4_dragon_toe.gif
With regards to your feet, if they're still hurting after a couple of weeks, I'd go and get some new trainers or walking shoes just to make sure you're getting enough cushioning and support. Call a local running shop and see what they suggest. If you need trainers, they'll have you on a treadmill and analyse your gait etc. If you're rambling around the countryside too, I'd get some boots with ankle support as too. Who said running/walking was a cheap sport? :p
My decent rambling boots set me back the best part of £100 if I remember rightly, though my bro-in-law was able to help with the cost courtesy of the 10% army discount he gets. Supportive of the ankle and foot, warm, waterproof and (relatively) lightweight.
Matblack
29-03-2009, 19:09
Thanks Kate, I didn't hurt during today's walk and I've been doing foot rotations and stretches over the last day or two, cleared 7 miles today for another marathon week. I had a bit of a lapse in the not drinking thing last night, I think the aftermath is spread around in some threads here :D
MB
Ah, glad your legs were feeling better today. Well done on the 7 miles!!
Due to my laziness/tiredness over the weekend, I now have 10 miles to cover before Wednesday in order to make my target. ARGGGGGGGGH!!!!!!
[edit]5.42 miles now :D
Matblack
01-04-2009, 09:23
Well thats March over 61.85 miles done since 16th of the month.
Aprils goal is to walk 100 miles, it should be do able there are 75 commuting miles in April and I'll need some extra weekend walks to top it up, I also do a few extra like today I'll be walking into town at lunch time which gives me an extra couple of miles to add. I'll also be adding a weight loss goal just for myself :)
I'll keep you apraised of my progress with the walking
MB
Will you ever walk 500 miles and will you walk 500 more to be the man that walked 1000 miles? :p
Matblack
01-04-2009, 10:14
Will you ever walk 500 miles and will you walk 500 more to be the man that walked 1000 miles? :p
That's going to take a while! :p
MB
You'd fall down at your door after it though!
Heres a map of the gradient
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/602/gradient.jpg
No real let up after the first dip down in the valley and over the river, I have to say that MMR is an excellent tool :)
MB
awesome website - ta. just put my walks to the pub (lol) and to work in there. Always wondered how far i actually end up walking whilst i'm at uni... now i can find out :D
Blighter
08-04-2009, 23:54
Well done Matt :)
If you want any good local walks or anything give me a PM, I've got a few walks I've planned/done saved on my lappy :)
Also, if you want some proper shoes/boots, either pop into Blacks between now and next Thurs (17th), or wait till next month and come see me at Cotswold and I can get you some discount ;)
Matblack
09-04-2009, 08:51
Well done Matt :)
If you want any good local walks or anything give me a PM, I've got a few walks I've planned/done saved on my lappy :)
Also, if you want some proper shoes/boots, either pop into Blacks between now and next Thurs (17th), or wait till next month and come see me at Cotswold and I can get you some discount ;)
Thanks mate, I might come in to Cotswold when you are there. I really struggle with walking boots as my feet are very wide :( At the moment I use my Salamon walking shoes but they are getting on a bit now.
MB
Blighter
09-04-2009, 23:23
Thanks mate, I might come in to Cotswold when you are there. I really struggle with walking boots as my feet are very wide :( At the moment I use my Salamon walking shoes but they are getting on a bit now.
MB
Scarpa, Meindl, Saloman and some TNF (north face) come up wider then other brands. I currently use TNF Hedgehog IIs when walking, fairly wide and very good grip.. also waterproof and breathable!
If you come to Cotswold I'd prob say leave it till May, and you'll prob have to ask for me as I'll be out the back doing admin stuff 90% of the time!
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