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iCraig
18-03-2009, 16:26
New developer APIs, so even better apps on the way, including turn-by-turn navigation support for mapping applications. Actual satnav anyone? ;)


For the consumer:

MMS
Landscape mode for key applications - mail/sms/notes etc
SMS forwarding and individual message deletion
Ability to send contacts/map locations/audio files etc
Copy and paste
Search through key applications - mail/sms/notes/calendar/ipod (album, artist, song name)
Spotlight application for searching through all of those in one go.
Voice memos
Plus a shedload other minor updates, shake to shuffle, auto login for wifi, stereo bluetooth, login to youtube account, note sync etc etc etc.

This is quite a big update from Apple and was desperately needed IMO, but, they've actually gone and added what was called for so that's good.

Cost to all iPhone owners? Nothing, totally free. :DAlthough iPhone 2G won't get MMS or sBluetooth.

To iPod Touch? $9.95, bit gay, but for the Touch I suppose it's more of an upgrade rather than a necessary update.

When? "This summer" :)
Blighter
18-03-2009, 16:30
I don't get how they can charge $10 for the Touch when it's only adding a couple of extra bits. If they charged for the iPhone I could understand as it's a lot of big features.. but not much for the touch..
Davey_Pitch
18-03-2009, 16:36
http://www.boat-drinks.co.uk/showthread.php?p=284599&postcount=487 :)
iCraig
18-03-2009, 16:36
Oh buggerballs.
Mark
18-03-2009, 16:41
Your thread is better though, so keep at it. :)
Dymetrie
18-03-2009, 17:30
Looking forward to seeing how this pans out once implemented :)

Not really bothered about MMS or sBlutooth, but C&P, SMS stuff, landscape KB and searching should all improve on the goodness of the iPhone...
divine
18-03-2009, 19:21
I don't get how they can charge $10 for the Touch when it's only adding a couple of extra bits. If they charged for the iPhone I could understand as it's a lot of big features.. but not much for the touch..

So they say, it's due to some kind of pricing law, which doesn't allow them to add features for free on the Touch.

That smacks of bull**** to me because if that was truly the reason, they would be selling it for 1c or 1p and that'd be it, just to satisfy the law. $10 is just an excuse to make more profit from the Touch because they don't get contract money from it.
Blighter
18-03-2009, 19:24
So they say, it's due to some kind of pricing law, which doesn't allow them to add features for free on the Touch.

LOL Are you joking?
Feek
18-03-2009, 19:26
It's an American accounting law, they have to charge for the upgrade to the iPod Touch because it adds extra functionability. I also believe it has to be a 'reasonable' figure. Go ask Mr. Sarbanes and Mr. Oxley if you want all the details.

This upgrade is really welcome and I'm looking forward to it.
Feek
18-03-2009, 19:28
LOL Are you joking?

Not in the slightest. I'll find a link.

Here (http://www.macworld.com/article/131991/2008/02/ipodtouch.html). Read.
Blighter
18-03-2009, 19:31
Well that is fair enough.. but not that amount!! :p
Haly
18-03-2009, 19:51
About time for some of those :D
Kainz
18-03-2009, 21:21
It's jailbreakable too yays \:D/
divine
18-03-2009, 21:39
It's jailbreakable too yays \:D/

I suspect it always will be, they know full well that half the appeal to a lot of people is the fact that is possible and if they truly prevented it, they'd lose a huge chunk of the market and gain absolutely nothing from doing so. It's a lose lose situation.
AboveTheSalt
18-03-2009, 22:28
Not in the slightest. I'll find a link.

Here (http://www.macworld.com/article/131991/2008/02/ipodtouch.html). Read.Apple has a choice of what to charge, but they have to charge.

The free iPod touch 1.1.3 software update—which includes important security fixes—also includes all of the new software applications as part of its 165MB download. Purchasing the software upgrade from Apple actually just downloads a tiny file that unlocks the changes you’ve already downloaded onto your iPod.

... the company declined an opportunity to comment on the reasoning behind the $19.99 charge for the touch update.;)
Dymetrie
18-03-2009, 22:58
;)

That was for 1.1.3...

Look at the cost for the 2.0 update and the projected price for the 3.0 update...

I'm not defending it really, but then again I have an iPhone which gets the updates and changes for free :D
divine
18-03-2009, 23:01
...the 2.0 update was free for those who had purchased the 'January' update wasn't it? I certainly don't recall paying for it, which creates an interesting point if they supposedly have to charge every time they add features.

edit - actually, thinking back, I think I skipped the January update and just bought 2.0 which included the January update features, which is why I only recall paying once.
Dymetrie
18-03-2009, 23:04
...the 2.0 update was free for those who had purchased the 'January' update wasn't it? I certainly don't recall paying for it, which creates an interesting point if they supposedly have to charge every time they add features.

I have no idea :D
Feek
18-03-2009, 23:08
I've paid twice for my iPod Touch update.

Although technically that's a slight lie. I got a refund for the first update shortly before the second update because I'd lost my update file after I did a restore and Apple wouldn't allow me to buy it again because it had been discontinued (it was just before the second update) so they refunded me the cost. The second update was cheaper than the first and I think that this new one is cheaper still.
Will
19-03-2009, 08:33
Looking forward to this although I got my iPhone knowing full well it didn't have these features I didn't care much. however this update will be awesome!
LeperousDust
19-03-2009, 12:52
Looking forward to this although I got my iPhone knowing full well it didn't have these features I didn't care much. however this update will be awesome!

This is the irony i love, lots of people where arguing they didn't "need" these features, and they knew they were missing but it didn't matter. Fast forward, and the same people can't wait for copy and paste/bluetooth/mms :p

//*Dances around with fuel near a fire*
leowyatt
19-03-2009, 13:03
The thing is these are features the iPhone should have had when it launched 2 years ago.
Dymetrie
19-03-2009, 13:04
That's a very good point Alex :p

I've managed fine for 5 months without these features and, whilst I'm looking forward to them being implemented, I'm not sure how much I'll use them...

The only one which I have missed and which would have been extremely useful from the start is copy/paste. It's annoying that I can upload photos from my phone directly to my photobucket account but then once they're there I have to go to my PC to do anything with them :/

I've definitely been enjoying following the fanbois and trolls in the overclockers thread about this though. The most amusing comment was when someone told anyone that didn't have an iPhone and a Mac to **** off out of the thread... Genius!


You're 100% right Leo, but it didn't have them and now it will, so I'm happy :D
Haly
19-03-2009, 13:09
I still doubt I'll use MMS much as I can only remember one occasion where I wished I could send a picture message. Even when I had my w810i I hardly sent them.
Don't think I've ever needed to use SMS forwarding either.

However, I'd never turn down a free update so I'm happy :p
leowyatt
19-03-2009, 13:12
Apple got the US market correct but they clearly misunderstood the European market regarding SMS/MMS. I was reading an article about the update and the US writer when talking about MMS simply said "I can just send an email". Which is the whole ignorance around this. Not everyone in everyone's iPhone contact list has an iPhone or hell even an email enabled phone.
Mark
19-03-2009, 13:16
I agree with Haly about MMS. I have had the ability to use MMS for 2+ years. I've used it once.
Belmit
19-03-2009, 13:21
Same. I saw the 3rd party MMS app and installed it immediately. I even have it as one of the main dock apps along with phone, SMS and ipod. Never used it.
Will
19-03-2009, 13:36
This is the irony i love, lots of people where arguing they didn't "need" these features, and they knew they were missing but it didn't matter. Fast forward, and the same people can't wait for copy and paste/bluetooth/mms :p

//*Dances around with fuel near a fire*

No.

I couldn't give a fig if we never got these apps, however the fact we're getting them is cool. But I could easily live without them. :) I can't remember the last time I forwarded a text, and MMS I used them once or twice a year at most. And even then I was probably drunk anyway.