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Glaucus
04-04-2009, 16:37
TV Times
Sunday 5 April

Race: 0900-1200, BBC One/BBC Red Button/online & BBC Radio 5 Live/online

Interactive Forum: 1200-1300, BBC Red Button/online

Highlights: 1900-2000, BBC Three/online

Standings -Drivers

1 Jenson Button GB Brawn-Mercedes 10
2 Rubens Barrichello Brz Brawn-Mercedes 8
3 Jarno Trulli Ita Toyota 6
4 Timo Glock Ger Toyota 5
5 Fernando Alonso Spa Renault 4
6 Nico Rosberg Ger Williams-Toyota 3
7 Sebastien Buemi Swi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 2
8 Sebastien Bourdais Fra Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1
9 Adrian Sutil Ger Force India-Mercedes 0
10 Nick Heidfeld Ger BMW Sauber 0
11 Giancarlo Fisichella Ita Force India-Mercedes 0
12 Mark Webber Aus Red Bull-Renault 0
13 Sebastian Vettel Ger Red Bull-Renault 0
14 Robert Kubica Pol BMW Sauber 0
15 Kimi Raikkonen Fin Ferrari 0
16 Felipe Massa Brz Ferrari 0
17 Nelson Piquet Jr Brz Renault 0
18 Kazuki Nakajima Jpn Williams-Toyota 0
19 Heikki Kovalainen Fin McLaren-Mercedes 0
20 Lewis Hamilton GB McLaren-Mercedes 0

Standings - Teams
1 Brawn-Mercedes 18
2 Toyota 11
3 Renault 4
4 Williams-Toyota 3
5 Toro Rosso-Ferrari 3
6 Force India-Mercedes 0
7 BMW Sauber 0
8 Red Bull-Renault 0
9 Ferrari 0
10 McLaren-Mercedes 0


Track
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Circuit information

Length: 5.543km
Race distance: 56 laps / 310.408km

Full throttle: 65%
Top speed: 297kph
Longest flat-out section: 12s / 830m
Right/left-hand turns: 10/5

Tyre wear: Medium/high
Brake wear: Medium
Downforce level: High
Gear changes per lap: 60

Source: BMW

Strategy

Fuel use: 2.64kg per lap
Pitlane loss: 22s (extra time taken entering and exiting pits, without stopping)

Source: Williams

Tyres

2009 tyre compounds: hard, soft


Qualifying Times
1 great britain Jenson Button 22 Brawn-Mercedes 1:35.181
2 italy Jarno Trulli 9 Toyota 1:35.273
3 germany Sebastian Vettel 15 Red Bull-Renault 1:35.518
4 brazil Rubens Barrichello 23 Brawn-Mercedes 1:35.651
5 germany Timo Glock 10 Toyota 1:35.690
6 germany Nico Rosberg 16 Williams-Toyota 1:35.750
7 australia Mark Webber 14 Red Bull-Renault 1:35.797
8 poland Robert Kubica 5 BMW Sauber 1:36.106
9 finland Kimi Raikkonen 4 Ferrari 1:36.170
10 spain Fernando Alonso 7 Renault 1:37.659
11 germany Nick Heidfeld 6 BMW Sauber 1:34.769
12 japan Kazuki Nakajima 17 Williams-Toyota 1:34.788
13 great britain Lewis Hamilton 1 McLaren-Mercedes 1:34.905
14 finland Heikki Kovalainen 2 McLaren-Mercedes 1:34.924
15 france Sebastien Bourdais 11 Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:35.431
16 brazil Felipe Massa 3 Ferrari 1:35.642
17 brazil Nelson Piquet Jr 8 Renault 1:35.708
18 italy Giancarlo Fisichella 21 Force India-Mercedes 1:35.908
19 germany Adrian Sutil 20 Force India-Mercedes 1:35.951
20 switzerland Sebastien Buemi 12 Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:36.107

Starting fuel Loads
Grid Qualifying Name Weight Fuel (kg) First stint (laps)
01 01 Jenson Button 660 55 20
02 02 Jarno Trulli 656.5 51.5 19
03 05 Timo Glock 656.5 51.5 19
04 06 Nico Rosberg 656 51 19
05 07 Mark Webber 656 51 19
06 08 Robert Kubica 663 58 21
07 09 Kimi Raikkonen 662.5 57.5 21
08 04 Rubens Barrichello 664.5 59.5 22
09 10 Fernando Alonso 680.5 75.5 28
10 11 Nick Heidfeld 692 87 32
11 12 Kazuki Nakajima 683.4 78.4 32
12 13 Lewis Hamilton 688 83 31
13 03 Sebastian Vettel 647 42 15
14 14 Heikki Kovalainen 688.9 83 31
15 15 Sebastien Bourdais 670.5 65.5 24
16 16 Felipe Massa 689.5 84.5 32
17 17 Nelson Piquet Jnr 681.9 76.9 29
18 18 Giancarlo Fisichella 680.5 75.5 28
19 19 Adrian Sutil 655.5 50.5 19
20 20 Sebastien Buemi 686.5 81.5 30

divine
05-04-2009, 10:48
Nice post :)

Anyone else slightly annoyed by the fact Legard doesn't seem to understand replays?

JL: 'Oh Webbers off the track'
*cut to replay*
MB: 'Yeah we can see there he just takes a bit wide and goes too de...'
JL: 'OH HE'S OFF AGAIN'
MB: 'No that's the replay'
JL: 'Oh'

divine
05-04-2009, 10:58
Awesome, thunder/lightening hit the grandstand everything turned off bar the audio :D

divine
05-04-2009, 11:03
Red flagged. This isn't going to start up again, not a chance.

divine
05-04-2009, 11:08
Massa: I NEED A WHITE VISOR I NEED A WHITE VISOR
Radio: Felipe stay cool man, we're bringing you the visor, stay cool man

:D

Glaucus
05-04-2009, 11:11
Anyone else slightly annoyed by the fact Legard doesn't seem to understand replays?

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Nope, R5L commentary for the win.

This is awesome... Looks like 1/2 points though :(

Knipples
05-04-2009, 11:29
I reckon they should make the drivers run round for a lap, first one back to the pits wins ;D

Glaucus
05-04-2009, 11:30
I reckon they should make the drivers run round for a lap, first one back to the pits wins ;D

I blame you, you must of done one hell of a rain dance.. :D

Glaucus
05-04-2009, 11:54
That's it half points all round.

divine
05-04-2009, 11:55
Finished.

So, check back Wednesday and we might have a final result by then.

Nutcase
05-04-2009, 11:59
Bunch of gerbils, little bit of rain never hurt anyone ;D Did they get video of the lightning hitting the stand?

divine
05-04-2009, 12:15
Which knob stroker chose that as a closing sequence backing song? :(

Feek
05-04-2009, 20:11
Farcical.

Bunch of pansies. They're paid to drive, they should be able to handle a rainstorm. There was none of this back in the turbo days.

It's a bit wet so slow down and adapt your driving to the conditions. I was stunned.

divine
05-04-2009, 20:17
...I hope you're joking.

They were spinning off with extreme wet tyres on whilst following the safety car, there was no way that race could continue. Hell, they showed the water, it looked literally inches deep at some parts of the track.

Feek
05-04-2009, 20:24
Nope. I've never seen anything so pathetic. A safety car because it's raining? Rubbish!

There must have been a speed at which they could stay on the track, the drivers should have the ability to adapt to that speed.

F1 has been got at by the health & safety muppets. "Motor Racing is Dangerous". It says that at every circuit I've been to and in every programme I've bought. Well if these guys can't cope then they shouldn't be driving.

Senna would have double lapped the lot of them.

Fayshun
05-04-2009, 20:30
Senna would have double lapped the lot of them.
And James Hunt would've done it with a bird sat on his lap and a glass of champers in his hand.

Dr. Z
05-04-2009, 20:51
Nope. I've never seen anything so pathetic. A safety car because it's raining? Rubbish!

There must have been a speed at which they could stay on the track, the drivers should have the ability to adapt to that speed.

F1 has been got at by the health & safety muppets. "Motor Racing is Dangerous". It says that at every circuit I've been to and in every programme I've bought. Well if these guys can't cope then they shouldn't be driving.

Senna would have double lapped the lot of them.

I perhaps agree with the sentiment but a modern F1 car is a very different beast to the cars of years gone by. If you cannot go fast enough, you dont have enough traction to slow down or speed up properly and at really slow speeds, their engines will overheat.

Such is the level of precision that during the Aussie GP, Button was grounding out because the safety car period meant so much heat was lost from the tyres that they deflated enough for the car to make contact with the floor. During a normal, dry safety car period they are still doing 150+mph.

I cant say I agree with the race being called off in as much as it ruins the sport for us spectators but similarly there is no point in holding a race if the cars are incapable of safely completing a lap.

Glaucus
05-04-2009, 21:27
you obviously missed the Ferrari with a bow wave in front of him.

divine
05-04-2009, 21:42
you obviously missed the Ferrari with a bow wave in front of him.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/richyj/bowwavekimi.jpg

Feek
05-04-2009, 22:23
you obviously missed the Ferrari with a bow wave in front of him.

No, no I didn't.

Steeps
06-04-2009, 01:09
Nope. I've never seen anything so pathetic. A safety car because it's raining? Rubbish!

There must have been a speed at which they could stay on the track, the drivers should have the ability to adapt to that speed.

F1 has been got at by the health & safety muppets. "Motor Racing is Dangerous". It says that at every circuit I've been to and in every programme I've bought. Well if these guys can't cope then they shouldn't be driving.

Senna would have double lapped the lot of them.

Senna didn't like rain either.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7951507.stm

2:16 is straight to the point

Burble
06-04-2009, 09:40
Nice post :)

Anyone else slightly annoyed by the fact Legard doesn't seem to understand replays?

JL: 'Oh Webbers off the track'
*cut to replay*
MB: 'Yeah we can see there he just takes a bit wide and goes too de...'
JL: 'OH HE'S OFF AGAIN'
MB: 'No that's the replay'
JL: 'Oh'

I can't abide Legard, he's almost as crap as James Allen.

It winds me up that someone who is meant to be a professional makes so many mistakes. I don't doubt that in the heat of the moment it is easy to make mistakes but sod it, he's paid to do a job and he clearly can't.

My main annoyance with him this weekend was after Barrichello overtook Alonso, Legard was still spouting crap about how Alonso in 4th was holding up Rubens in 5th even though Rubens was now in 4th and was gapping Alonso.

Briggykins
06-04-2009, 10:35
I liked Allen more than I like Legard, but I thought Legard was better this week than last. Murray was famous for making mistakes but nobody really minded it when it was him. The replay thing was quite funny though :)
I'd like David Croft and Martin Brundle to do the commentary ideally (I don't think Brundle and Davidson would work - you need one expert and one commentator really).

Glaucus
06-04-2009, 12:08
Just swap to R5L, the commentary is a million times better than anything taht annoying brundle could do.

Just press red button, then you ge a few options for different commentary.

Burble
06-04-2009, 12:14
I'm yet to watch a race live and you don't get the options when watching a recording. When I do manage to watch a race live I will listen to the R5L commentary though.

divine
06-04-2009, 12:17
AFAIK, unless you mess about running two browsers etc. you can't do that when watching on iPlayer (live) either.

Pheebs
06-04-2009, 17:46
I still vote that next time this kind of thing happens, they are all forced to stop their vehicles, jump out and finish the race on foot :D

Steeps
06-04-2009, 20:28
"Brawn GP is under investigation by the stewards after BMW complained that Jenson Buttons car was equipped with a rudder and propeller"

lostkat
06-04-2009, 21:44
lol :D

The only thing really getting on my jubblies about this year's GP is the amount of whinging and bloody moaning going on about how rubbish this is and what a farce that is. If it's causing people that much turmoil, don't ruddy watch it!!!

I'm just happy that there aren't adverts every 25 seconds anymore :)

Knipples
06-04-2009, 21:51
I'd have to say that personally for me, FIA interventions and other shenanigans aside, on track its been a bloody exciting start, and I am really enjoying things so far.

Couldnt agree more with the no ad breaks though! Although I do find myself sat there waiting for a break so I can run to the loo etc. Brundles paused for the odd moment too, as if he is waiting for the break to kick in.
;D

lostkat
06-04-2009, 22:38
I'd have to say that personally for me, FIA interventions and other shenanigans aside, on track its been a bloody exciting start, and I am really enjoying things so far.

Me too :)