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Dee
03-06-2009, 14:03
Ive just taken delivery of a...

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L USM. I am in lens heaven. The bad news?

Its rented :'(:'(:'(

Oh my god, I am so in love. Its so smooth, and weighs a bleeding ton. Had to hire this for a wedding I am shooting on Saturday.

Did I mention I was in love? Ah well, I am hiring it again in September for a fortnight, got two more weddings then!

/goes to play some more, and hopes everyone gets lens envy :D:evil:

Kitten
03-06-2009, 14:10
*envy*

I can't remember the last time I had a new lens to play with... :cries: ;)

Desmo
03-06-2009, 14:20
I have no idea what that means, but the numbers look cool :toss:

Dee
03-06-2009, 14:24
I cant get over it, was perfect timing too, cos I can use it for a calendar shoot this afternoon :D

Matblack
03-06-2009, 14:41
Nice lens that, I'm looking at upgrades but that on is beyond my budget and I need something a bit wider, but as you have the 10-20 your covered there :).

Very tempted with the 17-55mm 2.8 IS or the 17-40mm f4L

MB

Dee
03-06-2009, 14:51
This is waaaaaaaaaaay beyond any budget of mine MB, current price on Jessops is £1,109 :(

The 10-20mm is bloody awesome though, not regretted that purchase for a single second :)

Matblack
03-06-2009, 14:58
UWA isn't really my bag but I feel I'd like to have a baseline of 17mm which only leaves me two decent options the 17-40mm f4L and the 17-55mm 2.8 IS, 24mm is just a little too long for me with out an additional lens. Ist all very complicated.

You'll have a lot of fun with the 2.8 though, it gets great write ups :)

MB

Dee
03-06-2009, 15:28
Hope I manage to lift it off the ground!

That, coupled with the 30D and the grip is going to make for a serious workout ;D

Matblack
03-06-2009, 15:30
Hope I manage to lift it off the ground!

That, coupled with the 30D and the grip is going to make for a serious workout ;D

Its a serious chunk of glass!

Contemplating contacting someone about his 17-40 f4 at the moment and trying to strike a deal :evil:

MB

Toby
03-06-2009, 17:32
The 24-70L is my perfect walkabout lens, having a 10-22 to cover the wide end and a 70-200 for the longer so it fits perfectly. I've thought about hiring one but resist mainly because I know I'd have to buy one immediately.

My only issue with this lens is the lack of IS, which I find inexcusable at this price point. Rumours persist of an IS version but no-one really knows for sure.

Matblack
03-06-2009, 17:49
The 24-70L is my perfect walkabout lens, having a 10-22 to cover the wide end and a 70-200 for the longer so it fits perfectly. I've thought about hiring one but resist mainly because I know I'd have to buy one immediately.

My only issue with this lens is the lack of IS, which I find inexcusable at this price point. Rumours persist of an IS version but no-one really knows for sure.

What mid range zoom do you have at the moment?

MB

Toby
03-06-2009, 18:36
Well I've just sold the 17-70 and bought a Sigma 24-60 EX to replace it with. You may have seen the relevant threads on TP :) Pretty much a straight swap cost-wise.

The constant f/2.8 appealed to me and, as I have the 10-22 now, I didn't need the wide end of the 17-70 any more and could live with the 60-70 "gap".

Had a bit of a play with the 24-60 and first impressions are that it's ridiculously sharp at f/5.6 and above - incredibly impressed with its performance here. Slight downside is that it's quite a bit softer at f/2.8, mainly at the long end, which defeats the object a bit. Still happy with the change as at smaller apertures it's sharper than the 17-70 was plus it gives me the flexibility of wider apertures when I really need them but it's shame it's not sharper at f/2.8.

I realise most lenses are softer wide open but, having seen a lot of reports saying this particular one is usually as sharp wide open as it is stopped down, I've enquired with Sigma UK about getting it calibrated. They reckon they could improve things if I sent it in but say it could take 4-5 weeks as it's an older lens which they can't reprogram themselves and thus have to send test images to Sigma Japan who will send back a new circuit board for it. Hassle but they say this is all covered in their standard £33 calibration charge which is very reasonable.

Off to Le Mans next week so no time to send it in now but will use it out there, stopping down whenever possible and look at sending it in when I get back. My reasoning is that, if I can get this thing nice and sharp at f/2.8 then it'll stave off my cravings for the 24-70L for a fair while yet :D

Mark
04-06-2009, 00:45
Lensesforhire, I presume? :)

I'd be interested to hear how that works out. Heard good things over at TP obviously but can't beat a personal recommendation. :)

I'm not planning on getting any more lenses for the forseeable future (with the possible exception of a nifty), but lens hire is certainly an option (I did consider hiring a 100-400 L, but I'm sure my 70-300 will be fine).

Toby
04-06-2009, 07:44
The 100-400L is definitely an acquired taste. A colleague at work has one and I borrowed it when we went to the FIA GT at Silverstone last month. The push-pull zoom takes a lot of getting used to.

Mark
04-06-2009, 08:21
That's no problem for me. I'm still getting used to manual zoom. :D

Toby
04-06-2009, 10:23
A couple of samples of my Sigma at 60mm:

What it's capable of at f/8: :D
http://www.iconia.org.uk/pics/sigma/60mm_f8.jpg

Soft as hell at f/2.8: :(
http://www.iconia.org.uk/pics/sigma/60mm_f2.8.jpg

Will send it off to Sigma when I get back from France and see what they can do with it.

Matblack
04-06-2009, 12:21
Hmmm that looks unusable at 2.8, thats a real shame, I'm sure its not right and Sigma will be able to do something but 3 weeks is a long time without a camera :(

MB

Stan_Lite
04-06-2009, 13:46
The 24-70L is my perfect walkabout lens, having a 10-22 to cover the wide end and a 70-200 for the longer so it fits perfectly. I've thought about hiring one but resist mainly because I know I'd have to buy one immediately.


That's pretty much my ideal bag of lenses - and what I aspire to in the future.

At the moment, I'm plodding along with the 18-55mm kit lens and a cheapo Sigma 55-200mm I picked up before I came away. Sadly, last night, three days into my trip out here, the shutter on my 300D finally gave up the ghost. It had been playing up a bit from a week before I came out here but was still usable. I didn't have time to get it repaired before I came out so I was hoping it would see me through but it wasn't to be.

I'm thinking that instead of paying to have it repaired straight away when I get back from Egypt, I might just go ahead with the upgrade to a 40D I was planning and get the 300D repaired at a later date. A second-hand 40D can be picked up for around £450 and a new one for around £600. My long term plan is to have the 40D with the above lenses (and probably a nifty fifty) as my main camera and get the 300D repaired and stick an 18-200mm IS on it and use it as a walkabout camera.

That's the ultimate plan anyway but it'll be a long process to get to that point. I still have a lot to learn in the meantime.

Matblack
04-06-2009, 13:53
Why didn't you tell me you were having issues with the 300D Stan? It should be fine and if it wasn't when you recieved it then we need to come to some kind of arrangement about getting it fixed for you, I'd hate to anyone to think I was selling duff kit :(

MB

Stan_Lite
04-06-2009, 14:26
Why didn't you tell me you were having issues with the 300D Stan? It should be fine and if it wasn't when you recieved it then we need to come to some kind of arrangement about getting it fixed for you, I'd hate to anyone to think I was selling duff kit :(

MB

Don't worry about it Matt. It's nothing you could have known about and I wouldn't think for one minute that you would have sold it to me if you'd known. I'm perfectly happy to pick up the tab myself - after all, you virtually gave the camera away at the price you gave it to me for. Even including the price for the repair, I still got a bargain so I want to hear no more nonsense about any "arrangement" regarding the repair.

For your information (and everybody else too), the camera was in perfect working order when I received it and worked well for the best part of a month before it started playing up. Now that I think about it, it only started having problems shortly after I had the sensor cleaned professionally at a local camera shop. It's not inconceivable that they may have damaged the shutter whilst cleaning the sensor - although it would be pretty nigh impossible to prove that. In light of all of the above, my conscience wouldn't allow me to agree to any sort of compensatory offer from you.

I appreciate your intent and I want to categorically state for everyone to read that you sold me what you considered to be a perfectly functioning camera at a price which makes "mates rates" look exorbitant and that I had the best part of a months trouble free operation from it before it developed a fault which may well have been caused by action I took (albeit, indirectly).

I should have made all of this clear in my original post and I sincerely apologise if my omission caused you any distress.

Matblack
04-06-2009, 14:36
Not at all mate, I was just concerned that it had arrived faulty, glad to here it was OK for a while, I hear a few names batted about with regard to Canon repair, but I can't think of any which are near you when you're in Newcastle.

If you do decide to trade up the 40D is excellent, I'mm very pleased with mine now I have one in A1 condition :)

MB

Stan_Lite
04-06-2009, 14:48
I've had a look on the Canon website and the nearest authorised place is in Glasgow. I haven't been to Glasgow for a while so I might take a trip up there when I want to get it repaired. I'm going up to Shetland in August so I might book my flight to Shetland from Glasgow and kill two birds with one stone - with a bit of luck, it'll be ready to pick up when I'm on my way home.

I've seen many excellent comments made about the 40D - with some people claiming it's a better camera than the more expensive 50D so I'm already pretty sure that's what I'll be going with.

Matblack
04-06-2009, 14:53
I've had a look on the Canon website and the nearest authorised place is in Glasgow. I haven't been to Glasgow for a while so I might take a trip up there when I want to get it repaired. I'm going up to Shetland in August so I might book my flight to Shetland from Glasgow and kill two birds with one stone - with a bit of luck, it'll be ready to pick up when I'm on my way home.

I've seen many excellent comments made about the 40D - with some people claiming it's a better camera than the more expensive 50D so I'm already pretty sure that's what I'll be going with.

Its not so much a better camera, the 50D has some advanntages including a larger pixel count, video funtionality and lens micro adjustment however to get the best out of it you need good glass and unlike the 40D which will tolerate cheaper glass the 50D won't so if you want one to perform you have to make sure your using top notch lenses. Its also a lot more expensive so the 40D is still dominating the market. I'm glad I got mine it was worth every penny, its not a million miles away from the *00D series but there are just some things which make it a nicer tool to use, including the body size and construction and the rear wheel, I'd highly recomennd one :)

MB

Mark
04-06-2009, 15:46
What MB said. Read the same in reviews too.

I have to admit I'd have appreciated having the rear wheel on mine (450D), but otherwise I'm happy with it. Could (and should) have got it cheaper but whatever. :)

SCM
04-06-2009, 18:17
Ive just taken delivery of a...

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L USM. I am in lens heaven. The bad news?

Its rented :'(:'(:'(

Oh my god, I am so in love. Its so smooth, and weighs a bleeding ton. Had to hire this for a wedding I am shooting on Saturday.

Did I mention I was in love? Ah well, I am hiring it again in September for a fortnight, got two more weddings then!

/goes to play some more, and hopes everyone gets lens envy :D:evil:

I own one and it is a cracking lens :)

Dee
04-06-2009, 18:37
Show off ;)

SCM
04-06-2009, 20:45
Would be showing off if i said the price i got it for a year or so back ;)

Dee
04-06-2009, 21:00
No, but it will probably make us want to kill you ;D

SCM
04-06-2009, 21:16
I got in before the exchange rate went against us and also from Kerso on ebay so decent savings :)

Toby
04-06-2009, 22:56
Did much the same with my 70-200 F4 IS - £500 after cashback from Kerso with the advantageous exchange rate. They're £900+ to buy now!

Bod
07-06-2009, 01:14
Damn horny lens isnt it :D

Dee
07-06-2009, 11:01
Well I used it for the wedding yesterday....

Anyone willing to loan me £1,109? ;)

Kitten
07-06-2009, 11:41
I can do the .09 - Anyone else willing to chip in?? ;)

Dee
07-06-2009, 11:45
I hope you mean £9, and not 9p ;D

Kitten
07-06-2009, 11:48
erm..no, I meant .09 ;D

Knipples
07-06-2009, 12:02
I will make it up to £1.09
:D

Bod
07-06-2009, 12:07
I'll add the extra to go to £2.00 :p

Mondo
08-06-2009, 15:56
Well I used it for the wedding yesterday....

Anyone willing to loan me £1,109? ;)

Its' £900 from Kerso.

Therefore, technically i just saved you £200. :D

Bod
08-06-2009, 16:00
I think it's actuall £890

So there's my tenner contribution :p

Mark
08-06-2009, 21:20
Canon EF 24-70mm F2.8L USM SLR Lens -77mm..................895

That list was dated 29/04, so its probably changed since then.

Toby
09-06-2009, 16:33
I have the same price on a list from 16/05 so I doubt it's changed much. I hear a lot about how Ian's prices change with the exchange rate but they seemed to stay very constant during the recent, large changes in the dollar rate for some reason.

Kitten
09-06-2009, 19:37
I has just taken delivery of a most wonderful 70-200mm f/4 L glass lens thanks to someone not a milion miles away who I will happily give my first born to ;) Hurrah!

There goes my weekend ;)

leowyatt
09-06-2009, 19:41
There goes my weekend ;)

Oh well I'm sure I can amuse myself some way

Kitten
09-06-2009, 19:49
yeah the same way you spent the last half an hour, laughing at the tiny bird with a huge lens ;D

Knipples
09-06-2009, 20:47
Oi you two!!!
Im hoping for a giggle and at least one decent conversation this weekend! ;D

Kitten
09-06-2009, 21:56
well you can talk to the dog and I'll photograph you doing it ;)

leowyatt
09-06-2009, 21:57
Oi you two!!!
Im hoping for a giggle and at least one decent conversation this weekend! ;D

ah! :D I can amuse myself with you ;)

Kitten
09-06-2009, 22:03
I'm still taking photographs. :p

leowyatt
09-06-2009, 22:03
I'm still taking photographs. :p

No complaints from me ;) :p

Knipples
09-06-2009, 22:08
Oh dear god what am I letting myself in for? ;D

leowyatt
09-06-2009, 22:09
Oh dear god what am I letting myself in for? ;D

It'll be great, just relax and enjoy it ;D

EDIT: Sorry for taking the thread off track everyone :o

Knipples
09-06-2009, 22:12
I think I will shut up now as well! :p
(in fear of my life! :shocked: ;) )