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Robert
24-09-2006, 22:12
I'm in desperate need of a good router (stable wired and wireless). My netgear just fooked up whilst updating its firmware. I've heard lots of good stuff about draytek, are they work the price for stability?

Burble
24-09-2006, 22:14
Some say yes, personally I say no to Draytek as I've found them to be very good at writing a feature list and less good and making them all work.

Robert
24-09-2006, 22:15
Besides their habbit of listing non-existant features, what are they like?

Aslong as it:

Has to be reliable
Good wireless signal (have a hawking attennae on the nic)
Generally stable under load.

Jasper
24-09-2006, 22:18
i've never had a problem with netgear *touches wood*. i'm not aware of anyone who's stand-out better...but i'm open to be enlightened.

Burble
24-09-2006, 22:19
I didn't say that the features weren't there - they just didn't work. Mind you, the last one I tried was a 2800v (or something) where the router reloaded without fail during every single VoIP call. It went in the bin.

Burble
24-09-2006, 22:19
i'm not aware of anyone who's stand-out better...but i'm open to be enlightened.

Cisco.

Jasper
24-09-2006, 22:42
Cisco.

i wouldn't say that they're consumer products though, are they? i know of cisco products but i was talking about stuff you'd have in your house.

Mark
24-09-2006, 22:44
I didn't say that the features weren't there - they just didn't work. Mind you, the last one I tried was a 2800v (or something) where the router reloaded without fail during every single VoIP call. It went in the bin.
Hope mine doesn't do that - haven't wired it in yet.

Yes, they do have a habit of including incomplete features and/or removing them at a later date and/or not documenting some of the newer features. Doesn't tend to happen with the core stuff very often (VoIP on a VoIP router is of course core).

My 2600G decided to start locking up without warning, and when I flashed it, it got into a nice reload cycle. I have to give their support credit though, as they perservered with the diagnostics and 12 days later I had working firmware. This was in July last year, and it's never reloaded of it's own accord since - not once. More likely I'll reset it myself because my ISP broke something.

I haven't tried the new 2800VG yet, but I will, and if it hiccups on a VoIP call, their support will hear about it.

Burble
25-09-2006, 08:07
i wouldn't say that they're consumer products though, are they? i know of cisco products but i was talking about stuff you'd have in your house.

I've got Cisco stuff in my house, so yeah, they're consumer products too just a bit more expensive than your average Netgear/Belkin/whatever. Cisco have recently launched a new range of routers aimed specifically at the SoHo market.

Robert
25-09-2006, 14:15
Well I think I'm going to pick up the Draytek 2910G next tuesday. If it's crap - lesson learnt, but hopefully it won't be.

Mark
27-09-2006, 23:33
So, I go bragging about my router not crashing, and what happens tonight. Yup, it crashes. :eek:

Still the old one though - new one is still in it's box. Going to let my ADSL Max activation go through first and see what happens.

Dymetrie
27-09-2006, 23:38
My trusty Netgear (not stolen off Steve, honest) Router only crashes when I change the settings (well I say crashes, I mean resets...)

The nice motorola cable modem that I got off Telewest does crash every 3 months or so :(

Still, the track record is better than the Vigor 2500 (iirc) that Steve has running his connection, which also deals with my e-mail, webspace, website, etc...

Mark
27-09-2006, 23:44
He's having problems with it eh?

Mine doesn't reboot much. That's the first time I've noticed it go for ages. It might have gone once or twice before, but the worst was last year's already reported firmware hell.

Still got the 2800 to unpack and set up (which will be fun giving my locked-down security).

Dymetrie
27-09-2006, 23:46
He has problems with most stuff despite thinking he knows what he's doing :s

His main system is a dual 3ghz Xeon rig with 3GB RAM, a 74Gb Raptor and an x1800....

My modest little 3000+ system pwns it :D

Mark
27-09-2006, 23:55
I see your point. I have an old (3.5 year old) Dual Xeon that held it's own until I got a Core Duo system (namely a Mac Mini). That little box of shiny white goodness pwns the Xeon into last year at all but the most demanding graphics stuff. :eek:

Dymetrie
28-09-2006, 00:00
Mac Mini

I feel ill

Mark
28-09-2006, 00:15
It's running Windows XP. What's the problem? ;D

Robert
29-09-2006, 15:26
Oh well, I'll see what the vigor 2910VG's like next week when it's delivered.

Mark
17-10-2006, 16:02
Well, my Vigor 2600, that I was singing the praises of only weeks ago, is now history.

When I got my Max upgrade, lots of (seemingly unrelated) stuff broke, I got regular connection drops, and I couldn't get download speeds above about 2Mbps despite syncing at 6.5-7Mbps. I blamed most of it on the ISP and gave them all sorts of ****.

How wrong was I. I did the (already planned) upgrade from 2600 to 2800 this afternoon. Now syncing 1Mbps faster, downloading 3Mbps faster, and now having any trouble with rsync or certain https-based services.

Odd. :undecided:

Skully
18-10-2006, 13:42
cisco 877! Very pricey but will not die!! if youve go the money that would be my choice, if not Id go Linksys I never had any probs with mine.

Burble
19-10-2006, 19:13
I've got a Cisco 877 sitting in a box at home that needs to find its way onto eBay - fantastic bit of kit.

Robert
19-10-2006, 20:17
I'm happy with my Draytek 2910G :)

Stan_Lite
19-10-2006, 20:28
I've got a Cisco 877 sitting in a box at home that needs to find its way onto eBay - fantastic bit of kit.

Hmmm.

Looks at POS, unreliable wireless router sitting on desk and imagines it replaced by reliable Cisco kit.

If you're willing to be reasonable about this, we could do some business ;)

Stan :)

Daz
20-10-2006, 11:27
Would need to be the 877W to suit your wireless needs Stan :)

Stan_Lite
20-10-2006, 20:11
Would need to be the 877W to suit your wireless needs Stan :)

I assumed because the OP was regarding wireless, it would be the 877W. I may have made a foolish assumption though (wouldn't be the first time:D ).

Stan :)

Burble
22-10-2006, 22:17
Nay, 'tis just an 877, not an 877W.