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A Place of Light
13-02-2010, 19:24
I'm asking on behalf of a friend, and in here because there are more than a few people who are extremely familiar with the iPhone.
Is there an app that allows bluetooth file transfer between regular phones and an iPhone? My friend is disappointed that he can't find a way to send+receive pics/ringtones/message alert tones etc. Ive done some googling around and I can't find a reference to an app that can do this, so I was wondering if any of you lot know of such a thing?
Bluetooth FileShare exists, as does Bluetooth Photo Share. Whether they do what you want is another problem.
Someone in the Jailbreak community came up with iBluetooth but it sounds like they never finished it.
Ringtones are 'locked in' to iTunes (you can make your own but you still have to go through iTunes to get them on the phone).
Blighter
13-02-2010, 19:44
Not that I know of. You'll probably have to wait til OS 4.0.
A Place of Light
13-02-2010, 20:02
^x2
I found references to iBluetooth that were dated early 2009, and that the call to finish it went unanswered.
So in other words, as far as you're aware, it's impossible to use BT to exchange pics/tones/videos between an iPhone and conventional phone.....and even more definite if the iPhone hasn't been jailbroken?
Did you look for the apps mentioned above? (source: iTunes App Store) :)
A Place of Light
13-02-2010, 20:08
Did you look for the apps mentioned above? (source: iTunes App Store) :)
No, as I don't own an iPhone, but I will pass on any apps mentioned.
FWIW, after googling about this it looks like it isn't possible.....but I thought that asking some experienced users/owners would be a little more direct.
In your opinion, what is the best/most active forum for all things iPhone? Is it Apples own, or are there better alternatives? Obviously an alternative could be more informative, as I'm assuming all talk of Jailbreaking is forbidden on Apples site.
You would assume correctly about Apple. I just searched for Bluetooth in the App Store and the two apps I named were the first two results. I haven't used either (because I have no need to do so). I've done very little research on them so treat both apps with caution.
Dymetrie
13-02-2010, 20:20
Looks like both those apps only work as iphone to iphone or ipod touch transfers.
So unless friend's friends have iphones then it'll not work...
A Place of Light
13-02-2010, 20:20
You would assume correctly about Apple. I just searched for Bluetooth in the App Store and the two apps I named were the first two results. I haven't used either (because I have no need to do so). I've done very little research on them so treat both apps with caution.
Can you search the app store extensively from the web, or do you really need to search using an iPhone?
A Place of Light
13-02-2010, 20:21
Looks like both those apps only work as iphone to iphone or ipod touch transfers.
So unless friend's friends have iphones then it'll not work...
No matey, it's definitely for iPhone to conventional handsets and vice versa.
Dymetrie
13-02-2010, 20:22
iPhone, iPod Touch or iTunes are your best bets for searching the appstore :)
A Place of Light
13-02-2010, 20:24
iPhone, iPod Touch or iTunes are your best bets for searching the appstore :)
There's a certain logic to that I guess.
If you need to search for an app, you will amost certainly have a device to run said app or at least have iTunes installed.
Apple's App Store is the only 'closed' environment - you have to use their software to access it. iTunes is a necessity for the iPhone anyway so that's not a big deal.
Most of the other app stores (Windows, Android, Palm) can be searched by other means (e.g. Cyrket).
You'll not find anything on iBluetooth....because it has become iBluenova and will in the cydia store shortly :)
Here's a decent thread on it...
http://xsellize.com/showthread.php/82221-iBlueNova-The-New-iPhone-Bluetooth-app-for-3-x
A Place of Light
14-02-2010, 15:05
You'll not find anything on iBluetooth....because it has become iBluenova and will in the cydia store shortly :)
Here's a decent thread on it...
http://xsellize.com/showthread.php/82221-iBlueNova-The-New-iPhone-Bluetooth-app-for-3-x
So until this app is ready, the task is impossible as no other similar app exists?
And even then it's only usable if the phone is jailbroken. It's on the unofficial Cydia store, not the official App Store.
A Place of Light
14-02-2010, 17:33
And even then it's only usable if the phone is jailbroken. It's on the unofficial Cydia store, not the official App Store.
Thanks. I was reasonably sure that this wasn't possible on even a jailbroken iPhone, and definitely impossible on a standard one, but I was assured by a couple of iPhone owners that there were several apps that would perform this function. It seems that until the iBluenova app appears then there's no way to do what my friend is trying to do.
If there was any other way to do it, I'd be doing it by now :)
What others are saying is possible now is only with a few certain apps and only from iPhone to iPhone.
iBlueNova is now ready. It's all packaged up and just waiting to be integrated in to the cydia store.
A Place of Light
14-02-2010, 21:32
If there was any other way to do it, I'd be doing it by now :)
What others are saying is possible now is only with a few certain apps and only from iPhone to iPhone.
iBlueNova is now ready. It's all packaged up and just waiting to be integrated in to the cydia store.
I've underlined the stumbling block that my friend has hit. It seems there are apps to send things iPhone to iPhone, but that's all.
Don't you think that its a major flaw to the phone that BT can't be used for anything other than an audio connection (speakers or earpiece) without downloading other apps.....and even then its with limited functionality.
No, it's not a flaw in the hardware. It can be used for that purpose (otherwise iBlueNova would never have happened). However, Apple made a choice that they don't want you to do this (along with quite a few other things that they don't want you to do). Try getting a vaguely open Bluetooth stack on to the App Store and you'll hit a brick wall - that's why it's gone to Cydia.
A Place of Light
14-02-2010, 21:49
No, it's not a flaw in the hardware. It can be used for that purpose (otherwise iBlueNova would never have happened). However, Apple made a choice that they don't want you to do this (along with quite a few other things that they don't want you to do). Try getting a vaguely open Bluetooth stack on to the App Store and you'll hit a brick wall - that's why it's gone to Cydia.
Yeah by "the phone" I meant its out of the box setup state and not what it's technically capable of.
So when you jailbreak one, you can connect to this Cydia (which Im assuming is a non-official app store) right? Can you still connect to the official app store as well?
Yes, you can use both. I get most of my apps from the official store but also pick up a few from Cydia. Occasionally you'll come across an 'official' app that complains about it being a jailbroken phone (Skype does this) but that is rare.
Jailbreakng an iPhone doesn't stop you from doing anything you can do on a standard phone :)
A Place of Light
14-02-2010, 22:15
Jailbreakng an iPhone doesn't stop you from doing anything you can do on a standard phone :)
"they" can't detect that it's jailbroken?
So, other than warranty issues if you need to return a jailbroken phone, there are no drawbacks to jailbreaking?
Yes, "they" can. Often the first thing they'll try if you take a broken iPhone in is a restore - in which case bye bye jailbreak.
It is, however, a technical violation of the EULA, so take that for whatever it's worth.
A Place of Light
14-02-2010, 22:22
Yes, "they" can. Often the first thing they'll try if you take a broken iPhone in is a restore - in which case bye bye jailbreak.
It is, however, a technical violation of the EULA, so take that for whatever it's worth.
So a restore would erase the jailbreak code itself and, as a consequence, all apps the handset didnt leave the factory with? IE you're left with a phone in the same state as it was when you took it out of the box?
No traces that it'd been jailbroken remaining after a restore?
Exactly :D
And chances are that if you get the phone in such a state that you can't restore it, neither can they. That's not to say it's totally risk free as there is always that chance, no natter how slim.
A Place of Light
14-02-2010, 23:08
Exactly :D
And chances are that if you get the phone in such a state that you can't restore it, neither can they. That's not to say it's totally risk free as there is always that chance, no natter how slim.
I'm sure I've read that the jailbreak process has now been reduced to a one click solution?
Pretty much. Most people use blackra1n. Plug the phone in to computer, run blackra1n, wait 30 seconds, job done :)
BUT.....there is a slight problem now. Since around October last year Apple changed the boot ROM on iPhones. This was a hardware change and there is currently no way around this problem. If you use blackra1n to JB it will be a "tethered" JB which means you have to us blackra1n EVERY time you re-boot the phone. Not a problem for some as they're by a computer most of the time. For me, it's a deal breaker and not something I could live with. I'm not prepared to be away for a weekend, have to restart my phone for whatever reason and then not be able to turn it back on again.
I'm in the same boat as Desmo. That wouldn't be acceptable for me either. I'm certainly glad I did my Jailbreak when I did.
It's not about when you did your jailbreak. It's about when you bought your phone :)
iBlueNova has just hit Cydia :)
$5.99
That worries me, spending money via a non-official store.
To be more precise, in a store that's built for what are technically hacked devices. No thanks.
Of course, a lot of these apps that are chargeable via Cydia will appear elsewhere as dodgy downloads anyway but I'm just a little cautious about this sort of thing.
Cydia store has been around for ages. That's not to say I don't understand the reluctance, because I do, but micro-payment sites are becoming more and more common.
Doesn't bother me one bit. Most payments are handled through Paypal so I don't see the issue :)
I've probably spent more on Cydia than I have the App store.
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