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Admiral Huddy
11-03-2010, 11:57
I've always admired and backed the police 100% but I'm starting to loose my confidence in them tbh (Sorry Von, Pebs and co.)

About 12 years ago, I was leaving the railway station and was racing for a cab, when this bloke pushed me and I fell down a flight of stairs hitting my head at the bottom. As I got up I did hit him, and he then pinned me down on the floor blood gashing out of my head.. Just as he pinned me down, a shoved two fingers very hard up his nostrils breaking his nose in the process... he then pulled out his badge and i was arrested for Assault and Affray. Not something I'm very proud of. I was later released on bail without charge to receive 6 stitches above my eye.

6 weeks later, all charges were dropped due to no witnesses and the PC having a reputation for this in the past. I got an apology from the Essex Police. After seeking legal advice, i was told just to let it go because of insufficient evidence.

A few years after that, an ex-friend of mine joined the police for a power buzz and actually goes out in town looking for trouble for a similar opportunity.

Anyway, the other night I was on the way home on my new bike, turning right at a mini-round-bout. I stopped behind the white lane giving way to traffic to my right, when a bloke pulled up beside my and started hurling *s and *s, saying i was a **** for blocking his view. As far a I knew, I wasn't in the wrong. I ignored him but the abuse just carried on. Just as i was about to pull-away, he attempted to get out of his car. I said, "If you really have a problem then don't let me stop you". On when the abuse .. then he got back in the car after a brief exchange of words.. Obviously his plan wasn't working.. so he then pulled out a police badge. I said, " put it away there's a good chap, because you look really ugly in that picture". He then drove off. I guess he expected me to throw a punch at some point which never came and he knew he couldn't either.

I know there some of you who are members of the police and you are not all the same but at 42 I could really do without all this grief. I've never stepped outside of the law and don't appreciate police bullys who are obviously abusing their power when off duty.

NokkonWud
11-03-2010, 12:09
There are good eggs and bad eggs in all bunches of people, as with anything, the negatives always have more of an impact.

In both those cases you mentioned it's quite incredible that those are police officers doing it, those are clearly quite extreme cases and they should be truly ashamed of themselves (although I'm sure they're probably not.)
I've seen a few police officers acting the big I am for no real reason on nights out, thankfully I've never had to deal with those issues personally.

Del Lardo
11-03-2010, 12:22
Unfortunately there good and bad eggs in any organisation and my experience in the last two years seems to have been with the bad eggs. Still as an organisation I still have faith in them as I know there are a lot of good officers as shown but the BDPD.

Jingo
11-03-2010, 12:36
I have a lot of respect for the police as they do a job I certainly couldn't manage :)

However, as said, the bad eggs do indeed leave a horrific scar on the face of the force as an entirety despite them almost certainly being a minority.

After ending a relationship, my brother suffered a brutal beating from two officers who came to arrest him upon suspicion of "abusing his ex-girlfriend", only for the girl to admit that she made the whole thing up and he never raised his voice, let alone a finger to her some 24 hours later: he suffered severe brusing up his ribs and back and was generally treated like scum by these two morons yet is a really gentle and completely innocent individual :(

You can have 500 brilliant officers who really excel and go beyond their duty etc, yet they will pass by unnoticed by the masses, only for 1 idiot to ruin reputation of many through their actions.

Pebs
11-03-2010, 14:12
What a t*at! Unfortunately there are those that put on the uniform for the power trip rather than to do the job. They're an absolute liability to work with (I have one on my shift) and cause as many problems as they fix. Should have taken down his number and got him stuck on ;)

Darrin
11-03-2010, 18:37
so he then pulled out a police badge. I said, " put it away there's a good chap, because you look really ugly in that picture".


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Well played!! ;D

Wellington
11-03-2010, 20:37
I'd have jotted his number down and called the local station.

Desmo
11-03-2010, 21:39
I used to have a massive amount of respect for them until they let Pebs in.

Von Smallhausen
12-03-2010, 11:16
Shouted abuse then pulled his badge out.

Grade A nob.

I have used my warrant card off duty twice in ten years service. One was when a couple of tracksuited youths decided to make off in a row boat that didn't belong to them at a marina where I was walking the dog.

Second was when I was driving to work and was cut up by another car who then to decided to honk, beep and shout obscenities for a few miles. I stopped at a junction and he pulled up alongside giving the evil eye with his ladyfriend joining in. I then pulled out my warrant card and told him to wind his neck in. He drove away.

Pebs sums it up though Huddy in that there will always be those who get in and get an immediate power trip and it really sets the whole service back years in the eyes of some people who are treated like ****e by those who should not be in the force in the first place.

Although I have been HQ based for the last year, I was always courteous to people and stepped it up only when I had to.

Joe 90
12-03-2010, 11:50
Haha it's good to hear such stories from a decent police officer.

Our football coach is an Inspector around these parts (rumoured to have picked up an award for bravery in the past) but he doesn't talk about his job :(

Admiral Huddy
12-03-2010, 12:44
Although I have been HQ based for the last year, I was always courteous to people and stepped it up only when I had to.

That's because you're a lovely chap :)

Did I tell you that my daughter wishes to join the police? She's just been accepted into college for a two year public services course, then she's applying.

Pebs
12-03-2010, 13:04
She's going to struggle to get into Essex, it's broke. 100's and 100's of people been accepted in and waiting for start dates and they can't afford to get them in.
My advice, regardless of that, would be go to Mets anyway. More money, more opportunities etc.

Princess Griff
12-03-2010, 13:48
Apparently Avon & Somerset will be recruiting soon....

Jingo
12-03-2010, 14:07
elllo ello ello what's going on ere then?

Von Smallhausen
12-03-2010, 17:17
Most forces are absolutely broke with no recruitment at least for the next financial year. We are not recruiting cops, PCSOs or civilian staff at all in that time.

Agree with Pebs though in that you have far more opportunity in the Met if you can get in and they seem to recruit more than most and you get over 6k in weighting and allowance.

Top end Pc in the Met and City forces must be over 40k now.

Pheebs
12-03-2010, 17:48
Yeh Avon and Somerset are recruiting end of March - will be a batch recruitment so the next lot of recruiting won't be for another year at least.

Huddy - the dude sounds like a right muppet. Boo to you experiencing two poopy officers :(

Am back with the police now (only staff at the moment) and am loving it. Missed it so much. Hoping there's not many poopbrains about in my sector! Only met a couple of bent/power hungry coppers in the past and they've ended up being disciplined!

Pebs
12-03-2010, 19:54
I'm only (!) £4k behind Mets as my division borders Romford and we get London weighting. Going to the dark side is definitely a consideration for the future when everyone starts recruiting again. Can't see it happening for a long time, they have so many new recruits, both here and Mets waiting in the wings. 5 minutes further down the road, £4k more, same shift pattern, thank you and goodnight :)

Treefrog
14-03-2010, 10:55
I don't blame you for having a go at those particular ones, doesn't sound like Pebs or Von blame you either :)
Riding bikes since my late teens means I've been pulled over many times and again, 99% of the bobbies are just people you can have a chat with. And the occasional a-hole thrown in to keep you on your toes ;)

A Place of Light
17-03-2010, 20:03
Sadly, "Copper goes out of his way to be a complete merchant banker" makes for a more visible story than "Copper goes the extra mile and really helped me out the other day".

Von Smallhausen
18-03-2010, 18:22
Sadly true APoL, good news doesn't sell papers.

I remember a few years ago when some little bastard put an old lady's front window out and sadly I never did catch him or find out who it was.

Anyway, we were only obliged to stay a bit and fill in the crime form before doing house to house etc but we stayed there and cleaned up all the glass fragments off the carpet and her settee while she calmed down and until the window was in the process of being sorted. It was simply the right thing to do.

Such things go on every day but like I say, it doesn't sell papers.

Pheebs
20-03-2010, 14:56
Constable posts open up on Monday... 65 places, 7am - 7pm phonelines, closure at 1100 applications being sent out and closure at 7pm.

Erk.

Still thinking about it.

Von Smallhausen
20-03-2010, 20:07
Do it.

Kitten
20-03-2010, 20:51
What have you got to lose?

Psymonkee
21-03-2010, 16:48
Do iiiit! :D

Pheebs
22-03-2010, 19:01
Very funny - 1100 applications only to be sent out today, 64 positions, telephone lines only (no going into recruitment office despite it being a building away from me) and constant engaged tones despite calling every second from 7am through to 12noon.

In the end I had the whole of CID ringing up on their mobiles for me trying to get through ;)

I may or may not have an application heading my way. Still contemplating. Humm.

Kitten
23-03-2010, 21:37
In the end I had the whole of CID ringing up on their mobiles for me trying to get through ;)


Good to know they're busy :p

Hope you get one, I think you'd be brill.

volospian
27-03-2010, 09:12
Second was when I was driving to work and was cut up by another car who then to decided to honk, beep and shout obscenities for a few miles. I stopped at a junction and he pulled up alongside giving the evil eye with his ladyfriend joining in. I then pulled out my warrant card and told him to wind his neck in. He drove away.


I wished I had a warrent card the other day when some nob did something like this to me. Two lane road. His side blocked with parked cars. He could clearly see me coming and had a gap he could have pulled into and waited while I passed (it was, after all, my right of way). However, he decided to drive up my side of the road in his white van then switch his engine off and get out when I refused to reverse back past the line of parked cars to let him through. Hurling abuse, fuming, etc. when it was him blocking my side of the road. In the end I (and the three people behind me) had to reverse as this guy refused to reverse back into the gap in the parked cars.

I really wished I was a copper (of had one with me) to flash the card and say "read the highway code, nob end"

Von Smallhausen
29-03-2010, 17:02
I didn't call him a nob end when I did it. Complaints usually follow.

Kitten
29-03-2010, 17:06
I wished I had a warrent card the other day when some nob did something like this to me. Two lane road. His side blocked with parked cars. He could clearly see me coming and had a gap he could have pulled into and waited while I passed (it was, after all, my right of way). However, he decided to drive up my side of the road in his white van then switch his engine off and get out when I refused to reverse back past the line of parked cars to let him through. Hurling abuse, fuming, etc. when it was him blocking my side of the road. In the end I (and the three people behind me) had to reverse as this guy refused to reverse back into the gap in the parked cars.

I really wished I was a copper (of had one with me) to flash the card and say "read the highway code, nob end"

Turn off your own engine, get out of car and wait at the side of the road. Job done. Someone will call the police, and you're not the one breaking the law.

volospian
29-03-2010, 20:34
Turn off your own engine, get out of car and wait at the side of the road. Job done. Someone will call the police, and you're not the one breaking the law.

Yeah, I know, but I did have somewhere to be.... I just couldn't be bothered with the idiot... although I did think of getting a numberplate made up, borrowing a white van, and zipping through a few speed cams, just for fun, lol.

Kitten
29-03-2010, 21:31
You should! Teach the goit a lesson. Probably not worth the hassle of getting out in the long run, could end up nasty if he's a real jerk.

volospian
30-03-2010, 08:52
You should! Teach the goit a lesson. Probably not worth the hassle of getting out in the long run, could end up nasty if he's a real jerk.

Yeah, he was extremely agitated and it was my birthday. I was on my way to my mothers house. I really couldn't be bothered with a spot of fisticuffs with some brain dead van driver.

A few years ago I'd have taken the jack handle to him, but I'm a lot more mellow now. I just sat and laughed in his face, which seemed to make him even angrier and was, I think, infinitely more rewarding than being prosecuted for assault.... :)