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Dr. Z
02-10-2006, 20:29
Linux newbie sets up Samba server with all the relevant permissions and then uses iptables to set up a NAT router.

I also had to overcome some bloody stupid errors with my DLink DGE-530T gigabit NIC.

Not used Linux properly in 7 years - its come on quite a way.

Next stop, apache and learning PHP!

:D

EDIT: SSH and FTP servers too!

Haly
02-10-2006, 20:34
Nice one :D

I'm thinking of trying out a distro of linux again sometime after having a look at Daz's install. My main problem is before I just used to install it then not be able to think of anything to do :embarassed:

Dr. Z
02-10-2006, 20:41
My housemate uses Linux and after a little bit of setting up can just about do anything on it - including playing CS:S, which is pretty sweet.

He gets 125+ fps, which for what is basically an emulator isnt too bad at all :D

The only real help I asked him for was which distro to choose too :D

If you are going back to try it, I have recently poked about with a handful of distros and Ubuntu is fantastic - if you dont like Gnome you can get KUbuntu which comes with KDE. Two window managers but a bit different. Nothing to stop you having both though, you can change which session you boot into at login :p

Its debian based so to install most common things is fantastically easy. Red Hat(FC4) didnt seem to be as sweet and Gentoo is supposedly much the same.

I personally wont be jumping ship from XP for my main rig for a while but as far as my other boxes are concerned, each one will be going to Linux :)

Haly
02-10-2006, 20:45
Yeah ubuntu is what I saw so I reckon I'd go with that :)
I'd be interested to see what it'd be like for games actually. Not used linux in about 5-6 years so it's come on in leaps and bounds since then.

Dr. Z
02-10-2006, 20:54
well, nothing seems to want to run natively so you are stuck with emulating games. WINE is the main piece of software for that (runs UT just fine) but my housemate had major issues getting Source to work (although steam runs just fine on it).

He found another program based on wine that listed one of its features as being optimised to run CS:S, which is pretty sweet. Its not free though (which is reasonably uncommon really), so he had to get on BT to get it. Once he had done that though no faffing no nothing it just worked.

If you have a spare HDD knocking about, give it a go and stick with it while you iron out the creases :) Google is a ridiculously powerful tool for linux troubleshooting!

Mark
02-10-2006, 20:55
Gentoo is great for learning Linux because you have to do a lot of stuff yourself (fron guides of course). However, by god do you have to be patient. :eek:

Ubuntu/KUbuntu are the easy ways in if you're just going to play about and can't be bothered/don't have the time to learn the innards or spend the time it takes to maintain a system like Gentoo.

Daz
02-10-2006, 20:55
Its debian based so to install most common things is fantastically easy. Red Hat(FC4) didnt seem to be as sweet and Gentoo is supposedly much the same.
Gentoo is in a class of it's own - an uber distro really only suitable for those who are fairly *nix familiar, or those who want to know how linux works pretty intimately. Portage (the software management system) offers complete customisation of packages, right down to the compile options, as everything (even the kernel and X) is compiled from source.

It's still my distro of choice as a server OS because I like to optimise, but it can be a right hassle as a desktop OS (though my main rig dual boots into it). My laptop dual boots with kubuntu, just for the convenience of debians package management, and the fact I dont want such granular optimisation for checking my email :p

Played for getting it sorted :)

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He found another program based on wine that listed one of its features as being optimised to run CS:S, which is pretty sweet. Its not free though (which is reasonably uncommon really), so he had to get on BT to get it. Once he had done that though no faffing no nothing it just worked.
That would probably be cedega (http://www.transgaming.com/index.php?module=ContentExpress&func=display&ceid=2&meid=-1). And it is good to be fair.

Haly
02-10-2006, 20:59
Yeah cedega looks good from what I've read about it.

Dr. Z
02-10-2006, 21:00
All the uni server boxen (that I have to learn to be able to administer on the fly with as high an uptime as possible during a live radio broadcast :eek:) all run Gentoo because it let them strip out as much of the kernel as they could get away with.

emerge is pretty good, apt-get rocks as far as I am concerned though :D

Daz, yes, it was cedega. Runs pretty sweet :cool:

Burble
02-10-2006, 21:01
Quake 4 has native binaries for what its worth.

My laptop only runs Gentoo (which really is a pain to setup) and my main rig will eventually dual boot Gentoo when I stop slacking and get around to it.

As far as servers go, unless they have to run Windows then they run Linux. The favoured distro at work is SLES 9 (for the meantime until SLES 10 gets sorted) mainly because it's realitvely easy to setup for the rest of the guys who aren't geeky enough to run Gentoo like I do.

Daz
02-10-2006, 21:04
There's some decent native binaries in portage these days:

http://www.gentoo-portage.com/games-fps

Used the unreal ones and they worked very well.

Burble
02-10-2006, 21:05
Cool! I forgot to mention UT2K4 which bar some odd sound issues runs very, very well on my laptop.

Mark
02-10-2006, 21:27
My Gentoo box is pretty well stripped down. 2.6MB kernel all-in (no modules). It'll even run X and all the other fun stuff.

Dr. Z
02-10-2006, 21:30
These are stripped down to work ONLY on the hardware that is in there and ONLY on the processes that are needed. No X, no chance of any other network card other than the one in there working etc etc.

Bit extreme, but the best way to get the very best out of extremely aging hardware!

Mark
02-10-2006, 21:35
Pretty much the same with mine - except it has the graphics drivers and such. While not as ancient as your hardware, it's still 5 years old, so benefited from all the TLC I could give it.

Garp
02-10-2006, 21:50
Nice one dude, *nix isn't all that bad once you get used to it. I'm using it more and more in conjunction with my work and getting more and more used to it, picking up all loads of different tricks as different situations occur, our sysadmins are always willing to explain/teach what they're doing whenever we hit a scenario we've never done before (our NOC acts as firstline for sysadmin tickets.)

I've tried umpteen dozens of distros over the past 5 or so years, but I have to say Gentoo is still my favourite... once I got to grips with Linux and installed it properly. The flexibility and the control it leaves you with is comparible to very few. However its far, far from user friendly for the non-linux familiar geek. I do like its adherance to a lot of standard conventions. Redhat constantly pisses me off because stuff is never where it usually is, and is buried all over the place. I'm forever having to use the "locate" or "slocate" commands to go find stuff under Redshat.

I'm also growing to like Ubuntu. All the pro's of Debian, but with the decent release schedule, and much more effort to keep it up to date both at hardware and software level.