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Glaucus
18-09-2010, 16:42
Well tomorrow I shall be trying to bbq a 2.5kilo brisket on a bbq for 8-12hours.
and wondering if anyone has done this before? I haven;t and it could go spectacularly wrong.
So far as far as I can tell you heap all the coals to one end, put the meat on the other end and check as little as possible as the heat escapes when you lift the lid.

Belmit
18-09-2010, 18:45
Rich_L is the man to talk to on these matters. Not seen him here for a while but if you search 'Rich_L bbq' on OcUK he's posted in dozens of threads on the matter. I'm sure he did one on BBQing joints and the wonders of BBQs with lids.

Glaucus
18-09-2010, 21:48
Thanks Belmit, now you say that, I do remember such a thread all though I can;t find it for the life of me.

Belmit
19-09-2010, 00:35
Best quote I could find:

Don't need patience, just a bit of pre-planning - I find it easier than doing burgers and much nicer!

If you're going to do a roast then you need to give it lots of time to marinade, preferably overnight or even a couple of days - then there's the key to cooking it...a 2-zone bbq! Basically I use a combination of the Tesco instant-lighting briquettes (these are excellent) and normal lumpwood charcoal, basically build a bed of normal charcoal and put a bag on top for half the BBQ, and just a bag for the other half. Light and wait for the flames to die down - you should now have 2 noticeably different temperature zones on the BBQ.

Pop the joint of meat onto the hot zone for a couple of minutes, coupled with the marinade this will sear the outside and seal in all the juices, then transfer it to the medium zone and shut the lid then leave for 10-15 minutes. Flip over and sear the other side then transfer back to the medium zone for another 10-15 minutes until done to how you like it. Awesome

From a spec me a BBQ thread:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17726563

Rich_L
19-09-2010, 07:17
Sounds good! Yeah for 8-12 hours I would be tempted to use a metal bucket or a spare BBQ to keep the coals going, you've got the right idea about the different zones so the meat won't be directly grilling. Though 'seal' it first if you like on the hot area before transferring to the cool area.

8-12 hours cooking you'll need to refresh the coals probably 4 maybe 5 times to keep it at temperature, and obv you don't want the 'fresh' coals smoking everything out with rubbish hence why get them white and smokeless in a separate vessel first then you can just pour them in.

Don't forget to baste too when you're cooking for that period of time, something simple like butter and lemon juice, or you can use BBQ sauce of some description, keep lathering it on every half hour or so, it's amazing how much it will absorb and it will be dead tasty :D

Handy tip for marinading - double-seal freezer bags are perfect for putting a large joint in to marinade overnight/all day etc. I cooked a 3lb tri-tip roast that had been in the freezer for a year lol, it worked great as it happens :D

Glaucus
19-09-2010, 07:34
Thanks, couldn't find a bbq thermometer, really wanted one to be sure. So we shall see.
Pics to follow, Going to going to fire it up.

Any idea how many coals I'll need for an oil drum bbq? 2-3kilo at a time? or the same as I would when grilling.
weather is not looking nearly as nice as yesterday :(

Glaucus
19-09-2010, 08:28
2.6 kilos of locally farmed organic brisket at a mere cost of £14.73 from my "local" butcher
1 tablespoon salt
1 tablespoon Black pepper
1 tablespoon cayenne pepper
1 Tablespoon smoked paprika
1 tablespoon onion salt
2 tablespoons garlic granules
1 teaspoon cumin
1/4 cup soft brown sugar
3 tablespoons Worcestershire sauce

Been marinading for about 18 hours in the rub.
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1361/pict0809u.jpg

On the BBQ, just gone and flipped it as it's meant to be fat side up.
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/3105/pict0810t.jpg

Only time will tell now, don't think I have ever been more nervous on end result whilst cooking. It's not as if I have much controller over the temperature or anything.

Only going to be about 8hours cook time, eta 4pm.

Pickers
19-09-2010, 08:52
A lack of update means one of two things.
It didnt work :(
It did work and AH has succumb to drink related absence from the forum.

I'm willing to bet (or rather hope,) the latter. :D

Glaucus
19-09-2010, 09:11
well been on 45 mins and it's browned up. Not sure it should brown that fast. Will get a pic at the next basting interval.

No drinks yet, other than a butter and cider baste. Would be hammered by the time people arrive at 3pm.

Also got racks of ribs to go on at midday, apparently they only need 4 hours.

Glaucus
19-09-2010, 09:43
Roughly 1hr30
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5320/pict0811.jpg

divine
19-09-2010, 11:34
Looking good so far!

Glaucus
19-09-2010, 12:05
Phase 2
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/7100/pict0812n.jpg

http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/6987/pict0813.jpg

Glaucus
19-09-2010, 20:53
Well that was bloody amazing. Good god the ribs... the ribs.. The bones came out clean.

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/1035/pict0814k.jpg

Meat is now finished, the brisket has been flipped and that's the marinade side. It looks black, but it's literally a 2-3mm ring round the outside of the meat.
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5504/pict0815.jpg

Burble
19-09-2010, 21:05
Blimey, that looks effing wonderful!

Belmit
19-09-2010, 22:03
Superb. I'd just pick one of those up and eat it as-is!

Jonny69
19-09-2010, 22:40
I was about to say it was a pathetically small looking piece of meat, but then I remembered how big your barbeque is ;D

Looks great. Do you reckon the beef could have got away with less time?

Glaucus
19-09-2010, 22:53
Yeah I recon you could do less. But then it's not the right cut. American ones are triangular cut. Not sure if they use a the wholebrisket or if it is just the fat end(what ever that's) called. 4 hours for the ribs is great though. As you can see temp increased at the end after a refill used about 15kilos of lump wood stuff.
I certainly think there's room for improvement, think a thermometer would help no end. Also couldn't get any wood chips, so will have to buy some over the Internet.

Yeah size is awesome didn't relies just how big untill you see that pic, 3 racks and a 2.5kilo joint in 1/2 the grill area.

Rich_L
20-09-2010, 06:16
Looks amazing!!!! Bet it tasted pretty epic too :D

cheets
20-09-2010, 15:52
Looks great, after watching nearly every Man v food the yanks know how to cook a bbq

Jonny69
20-09-2010, 17:24
I just remembered something we used to do with oil drum barbies to keep the heat in. Dump a load of half bricks or strong rocks in with the coals and they hold the heat.

Glaucus
20-09-2010, 19:25
that's a pretty good idea Jonny.