View Full Version : Are we a generation away from triple barrelled surnames being commonplace?
Del Lardo
25-08-2011, 15:20
When I was growing up double barrelled surnames were generally only for toffs and the occasional weird kid but noticed that approximately half of the women I know who have been married in the last 5 years have gone for a double barrelled maiden name-husbands surname combo.
Surely if the trend continues in a few generations people will have to spend half an hour writing their name out ;D
Does seem a bit daft, not sure why they can't stick with tradition and take the man's name. Like you say, if they did it then their daughter may be inclined to do the same and before you know it names will be way too long :D
Careful, some members here have had double-barrelled surnames for a loooooooooooong time ;)
Oh oh oh! Who's that?! :D
*shakes fist at Will *
Does seem a bit daft, not sure why they can't stick with tradition and take the man's name.
I wouldn't take a man's name if I got married. Why should I?
I don't know that many people with double barrelled names... in fact it's quite rare certainly where I work it is anyway.
For those women I know that kept their maiden name as well as taking their husbands name it's because they don't want their family name to die out. If I ever do get married I wouldn't want to totally give up my name otherwise it would be the last of the McKenzies in my family. Though I probably wouldn't use it daily, but it would be there legeally.
If I ever get married, I'd be tempted to keep my name and then have both my surname and the husband's. My family surname will vanish with me if I take my husband's name and I'd quite like for it to stick around out of some (potentially to others, weird) sense of belonging.
Not bothered if others think it's weird though, my life and surname and all that :D But yeah I'd certainly consider it.
*shakes fist at Will *
I wouldn't take a man's name if I got married. Why should I?
What name would your children take?
I do understand that there's a potential sense of lack/loss of identity, but isn't the unison of marriage above that? I have to say I do like the tradition values - but I'm old fashioned! :p
What name would your children take?
I do understand that there's a potential sense of lack/loss of identity, but isn't the unison of marriage above that? I have to say I do like the tradition values - but I'm old fashioned! :p
By that same logic, the man in the relationship could also lose his surname as after all the unison of marriage is above that ;)
Go with what you like and agree with your other half. Sod what anyone else thinks of it imo! Relationships all have their own quirks and nuances after all.
Indeed - it's up the couple :) Didn't mean to imply any was wrong or right btw :)
Kari decided to keep her maiden name, but have it become one of her middle names. I'm the only male child in this line so if I'd taken her name (which was discussed at some point) that would have been the end of the Graydons from this branch going back 3-4 generations, whereas Kari has a brother (and male cousins) who can carry on her maiden name for another generation or two :)
It's a silly thing to think about, but I guess we put a lot of stock in our surnames, even though they're relatively meaningless.
By that same logic, the man in the relationship could also lose his surname as after all the unison of marriage is above that ;)
I considered it. I've no interest in carrying on my 'family name', my mum has remarried and I've disowned my dad so it's not like I have any attachment to it. In the end we stuck with tradition simply because I couldn't be bothered with the hassle of repeatedly explaining why I had changed my name.
We've both double barrelled. Em has 2 sisters and no brothers, there are no male Buckthorpes left in her family as her Dad died a few years back.
And Buckthorpe-Cooper fits ok :)
Agree with the original query though, what will our kids do?
But that's their problem ;D
What name would your children take?
I do understand that there's a potential sense of lack/loss of identity, but isn't the unison of marriage above that? I have to say I do like the tradition values - but I'm old fashioned! :p
Not an issue ;) I'm the only girl in our family (with my name), and I'm an only child.
I've had 4 surnames in my life, I don't want any more.
If it's all about the unison of marriage, he can take my name.
Edit: Damnit, Jen already said that ;D
SidewinderINC
25-08-2011, 19:47
Not an issue ;)
If it's all about the unison of marriage, he can take my name.
Edit: Damnit, Jen already said that ;D
Is it a case of "take one, the other, or be double barrelled"?
Surely if it's about the union of marriage you could make something up that you both agree on ;)
If I get round to it, I'm getting rid of my name and will happily take the other half's name.
Yeeeeah. Caboodle would be a great surname ;)
I'd change mine to Stroker, then start calling myself Dick instead of Rich.
Yeeeeah. Caboodle would be a great surname ;)
:D
Local couple I know of - neither were attached to their surname so they jointly picked another name and changed it. (they went with Connolly as one of the things that got them together was their joint love of Billy Connolly)
tbh honest it's the double barrelled first names you have to worry about!
:p
Careful, some members here have had double-barrelled surnames for a loooooooooooong time ;)
Bovered? :p
I wouldn't take a man's name if I got married. Why should I?
You shouldn't HAVE to, everyone has a choice :)
I guess I'm just more of a traditionalist and taking the mans name was obviously invented to avoid problems Delboy has bpointed out. As usual, a woman gets involved, decided they don't like it and everything goes tits up ;D
As usual, a woman gets involved, decided they don't like it and everything goes tits up ;D
:smug:
tbh honest it's the double barrelled first names you have to worry about!
:p
I know... who'd have one of those :/ :p
Bovered? :p
Well, you might not be, but I think it's just a bit mean-spirited to say they're generally either toffs or weirdos, they take enough **** from other people than to have to take it from their friends too :)
You shouldn't HAVE to, everyone has a choice :)
I guess I'm just more of a traditionalist and taking the mans name was obviously invented to avoid problems Delboy has bpointed out. As usual, a woman gets involved, decided they don't like it and everything goes tits up ;D
The man's name was not invented to avoid 'problems' like those anyone has pointed out. Taking the man's name harks back to a time when the male's family PAID a huge sum of money for the right to continue their lineage with said woman. It's hardly surprising that lots of women don't particularly want to carry on that sterling tradition which reflected a woman being a man's property.
Well, you might not be, but I think it's just a bit mean-spirited to say they're generally either toffs or weirdos, they take enough **** from other people than to have to take it from their friends too :)
I've not called anyone a toff or weirdo though, just said that I'm not keen on double barrelled names and that we could run in to problems if their children choose to do the same thing :)
The man's name was not invented to avoid 'problems' like those anyone has pointed out.
I know...I was joking :p
Del Lardo
26-08-2011, 10:42
The man's name was not invented to avoid 'problems' like those anyone has pointed out. Taking the man's name harks back to a time when the male's family PAID a huge sum of money for the right to continue their lineage with said woman. It's hardly surprising that lots of women don't particularly want to carry on that sterling tradition which reflected a woman being a man's property.
I always thought it was the other way round with the father of the bride paying the new husband to take his daughter off his hands. Hence the tradition of the brides father paying for the wedding.
I'm happy to take my fellas surname, although will be sad to see mine go! I call myself by it when I've done something silly (which is fairly frequent) so it will be odd having to change that!
"Sooooutherrrrrrrrn! Don't be a fooooooool!" will be no more!
If Sam and I have sprogs they'd have his surname for sure but we've decided we'd name them
Optimus Prime Dave + Surname
(note, Dave will be the middle name even if it's a girl. Everything in this household is called Dave. Even my piano.)
:D
I always thought it was the other way round with the father of the bride paying the new husband to take his daughter off his hands. Hence the tradition of the brides father paying for the wedding.
Depends on the status of the families. Sometimes the dowry included the cost of the wedding, sometimes not. Eitherway, the name was evidence of her 'sale'.
I've not called anyone a toff or weirdo though, just said that I'm not keen on double barrelled names and that we could run in to problems if their children choose to do the same thing :)
That was what my comment responded to, being careful about the toffs and weirdos thing, when people here could feel uncomfortable about it & you said 'bovvered'.
Jeez, I shouldn't post when I'm busy/tired/grumpy. Come across like:
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Well to be fair... I am a beast! RAAAWWWRRRRR!!!!! ;D
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Pumpkinstew
26-08-2011, 14:02
The Spanish (http://spanish.about.com/cs/culture/a/surnames.htm) have always done something similar with surnames so that approach could be adopted to avoid tripe or quadruple barrelled names.
Alternatively there's the approach Iain Banks favours in the Culture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture#Names) books.
This would make me 'Sun-Earther Stewart Jesterman Wilson of Overdowne'
Blackstar
26-08-2011, 16:45
Jellytot and I are both having Chris' last name. Not for any traditional reason just because I've always wanted a shorter last name. My dad is steadfastly campaigning for Cunningham-McGuire, he can take a running jump. I have two sisters and we have 2 cousins who are girls as well so we are the last generation.
I wanted to double barrel, I'm the last in the family with my surname, but as were not having kids it doesn't really matter!
I have adouble barrelled first name though :)
Jeez, I shouldn't post when I'm busy/tired/grumpy. Come across like:
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The thing is dear, WE ARE!! :'(
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