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Belmit
08-12-2006, 14:38
It's rare that I'll come across a game of Freecell that takes me more than a couple of goes; if I can't do it first time I'll almost always spot my mistake and do it straight off next go. This one however, I randomly selected yesterday lunchtime and it stumped me about ten times in a row. I came back to it today and had another three or so goes (the last couple being almost identical save for a couple of moves) and have now finally beaten it.

If there's anyone that is so inclined, give it a go and let me know how you get on. The amount of times I was just one space short was frankly infuriating. I've never known a game of Freecell to have so many dead ends.

I fully expect someone to do it first go now though. ;D

Will
08-12-2006, 14:43
Are all freecell games DEFINITELY solveable? I thought they were random and some could be done some couldn't?

Belmit
08-12-2006, 14:47
There is only one (in Windows) that has been proved to be impossible but I don't know its exact number. The 32,000 or so that Windows XP has aren't random they're the same on every computer. There are far more than 32,000 permutations though I'd imagine.

Will
08-12-2006, 14:50
Does yours start with the 4 of hearts then the 5 of hearts and 9 of clubs? I'm giving it a go now. :)

Belmit
08-12-2006, 15:04
Yup!

Feek
08-12-2006, 15:13
There's actually an article about this in this month's PC Pro magazine which dropped onto my desk today.

Only #11,982 isn't possible.

Feek
08-12-2006, 15:15
The exact bit says
They discovered that only one deal out of the 8 billion-plus possible doesn't come out, which means that whenever you lose a game it's because you didn't play it right (unless it was the impossible one, deal 11,982) not because of the lay of the cards

Will
08-12-2006, 15:20
Done it. :)

Belmit
08-12-2006, 15:59
Done it. :)

Damn it! Within half an hour too.

Will
08-12-2006, 16:12
Damn it! Within half an hour too.

Without wanting to sound show-offy, I was in the middle of other bits of work so it took me more like 10 mins really. :)

Jhadur
12-12-2006, 21:07
The exact bit says

They discovered that only one deal out of the 8 billion-plus possible doesn't come out, which means that whenever you lose a game it's because you didn't play it right (unless it was the impossible one, deal 11,982) not because of the lay of the cards

Not sure where they got their figures from but there's alot more than 1 that's impossible. This info is pulled from the freecell wiki page as I cant find the site that I originally read the info on.


In later implementations of FreeCell in Microsoft Windows, there are 1,000,000 games. Of these, 8 have been found to be unsolvable. They are games No. 11,982, No. 146,692, No. 186,216, No. 455,889, No. 495,505, No. 512,118, No. 517,776, and No. 781,948.

Oh and just to prove that there are really sad people out there, the site that I read before had a list of people that had gone through windows 32,000 original games and beaten them all (except 11,982) in order! :shocked:

Feek
12-12-2006, 21:58
I tried one once but couldn't work out what to do. I think I was supposed to be working at the time so I didn't pay too much attention though.

Kell_ee001
12-12-2006, 22:38
Oh and just to prove that there are really sad people out there, the site that I read before had a list of people that had gone through windows 32,000 original games and beaten them all (except 11,982) in order! :shocked:

In my last job (which I did just as little as I do now :p ) I started that and got into the hundreds without losing one :embarassed: