View Full Version : Ripping CD's for quality
Morning all :)
Been a while since I've done any ripping, but I used to use EAC and keep them as uncompressed files. Is that still the best prog to do it on? Not too worries about lossless compression as I want to keep processing to a minimum and storage/network bandwith isn't an issue :)
Matblack
11-01-2007, 11:37
FLAC?
MB
.WAV for pure uncompressed, surely?
Indeed it's wav I'm looking for as the end result :)
Sorry, missed that bit about the program on the original post. Easy CD-DA Extractor is what I've used for years for ripping.
CDEX (http://sourceforge.net/projects/cdexos/) has been mine for Windows :)
Same, but then I got the recommendation from you, so not surprising really. :)
CDEX (http://sourceforge.net/projects/cdexos/) has been mine for Windows :)
Same, and it was probably you that recommended it too :p
Sorry, missed that bit about the program on the original post. Easy CD-DA Extractor is what I've used for years for ripping.
CDEX (http://sourceforge.net/projects/cdexos/) has been mine for Windows :)
Hmm. I couldn't recall the exact name so I guessed, I guessed wrong, ignore my first post, it is in fact CDEX that I've been using for more years than I care to remember.
But Daz didn't tell me about it.
;D Guess I'll have a snout at CDEX then :)
Should be getting into my flat by the end of the month so have priorities to sort - fridge can wait, I want sounds :D
I really dont see the point in uncompressed/lossless music at all. 700mb per CD is a bit silly!
I have to concur. May as well just put the CDs in a hi-fi if you want that kind of quality. A PC with any average soundcard is always going to suffer some quality losses IMO.
Nothing average about the soundcard, amp or speakers though :)
My soundcard is average (and I undoubtedly pay for it), but the amp and speakers certainly aren't.
Unless you have the likes of ASIO set up (didn't know about this until today), you'll still suffer the results of DirectSound. I'll assume you do have it set up. :)
Admiral Huddy
12-01-2007, 11:38
How do i copy a CD to my hard disk.. I've never bothered before but my son brought home a CD the other day and wants the tracks on his phone.. I've noticed that all the tracks are 44kb??
Huddy, you could use media player.
Pop in the cd, select rip and it adds it to my music (if I remember right).
Admiral Huddy
12-01-2007, 11:55
Huddy, you could use media player.
Pop in the cd, select rip and it adds it to my music (if I remember right).
I tried that, but it didn't work. Wonders if there is somesort of DRM?
My soundcard is average (and I undoubtedly pay for it), but the amp and speakers certainly aren't.
Unless you have the likes of ASIO set up (didn't know about this until today), you'll still suffer the results of DirectSound. I'll assume you do have it set up. :)
Yup, no downmixing/upmixing whatever :)
Huddy, Try cdex as above. 44.1khz sample rate is waay to high for a phone though so it is defintiely worth cutting that down my making an mp3 or similar.
A lot of the yachts have AOD and VOD, we always put the CDs and DVDs uncompressed onto the servers. High compression for audio i.e. ripped at 128kpbs or less you can definitely start hearing quality loss. Using VBR it does reduce that somewhat but IMO it's still not good enough - for decent hi-fi experience and if you have the storage I'd always play it uncompressed. Whilst compression is very advanced now and very very good, it's still not as good as RAW data. I guess that's why a lot of professional photographers still shoot in RAW and convert to another format after they've finished editing the picture.
Then again these yachts do have several terrabytes of storage. Certainly on video I'd not want any character corruption or noise which you get through compression - it's unavoidable. I don't have that space so I'm happy with having VBR compressed music. Still have over 10,000 tracks which come to well over 100Gb which is nothing really by today's standards. I really need to get myself a NAS box.
Ripped about 40 CD's so far. Bored now! Only another 200 ish to go....
Admiral Huddy
15-01-2007, 13:07
Got a link for CDEX?
http://sourceforge.net/projects/cdexos/
A lot of the yachts have AOD and VOD, we always put the CDs and DVDs uncompressed onto the servers. High compression for audio i.e. ripped at 128kpbs or less you can definitely start hearing quality loss.
Indeed.. did an audio test once out of curiousity covering several codecs, ogg, mp3, mp3pro and wma I think it was. Of all of these WMA impressed me the most with its less audible artifacts at the 128kbps mark, but they were there, comparing against the original I could hear them up to 192kbps, but not above that using a pair of high quality headphones on my then SB Live sound card. I rip all my CDs onto my PC at 168kbps VBR as that is more than fine for my needs (more often than not on my MP3 player in my car or on the train where there is background noise) AS and when I run out of disk space on my MP3 I guess I may drop that another notch but no lower.
Then again these yachts do have several terrabytes of storage. Certainly on video I'd not want any character corruption or noise which you get through compression - it's unavoidable. I don't have that space so I'm happy with having VBR compressed music. Still have over 10,000 tracks which come to well over 100Gb which is nothing really by today's standards. I really need to get myself a NAS box.
DVDs are already compressed using MPEG2. If you know what you're looking for you can see the artifacts quite readily in it. Decent level MPEG4 encoding is nigh on transparent in this regard, and artifacts that people complain about in MPEG4 encoded stuff is often in the source MPEG2 anyway.
Oh, and CDEX > *
Admiral Huddy
16-01-2007, 11:50
Right, I managed to get the cd down to the h/d drive using CDEX, but how do I reduce the quality for my sons phone.
It's not the most self explainatory of utilities.
Dunno, not tried it :)
Bloody Americans - just ripped a CD with a certain 3 fit women and a bloke. What does the database thingy call them? The Coor's ;D
Just had a quick look, and it looks like under Options/Settings/Configuration
there are the settings for what encoding to use. Then either set it to compress on the fly (as you rip it creates an mp3). This is where you'd choose a low rate for the phone. Or do it later by Convert, point to the directory and select the files.
Whoops, now got over 50gb ripped, but as my server is now packed up ready to move, I can't shift it from my PC to that. And I'm out of disc space. D'oh!
As it's currently uncompressed, it might react well to file compression as a temporary measure. Just a thought.
Yeah that had crossed my mind. Think it would be quicker to get the server out again and dump it on that than zip this lot up!
154 done, 63 to go!
Ones that are now on the server I've zipped up. Still pushing 75gb though, and I've run out of space again;D
Get one of these:
http://www.aberdeeninc.com/abcatg/STIRLING-X632.htm
;D
We set something similar for one of the yachts - it's awesome! :D
That'd do it ;D Think my bank and my insurers would have convulsions though :'(
$24,000 for a 24 terrabyte jobbie. Bargain!
Flibster
28-01-2007, 14:17
I could do with one of them. My CD's FLAC'd take up a vast quantity of space.
Just checked - and it's currently 683gb.
Still got some to do as well. *eep*
Simon/~Flibster
vBulletin® v3.7.4, Copyright ©2000-2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.