Virgin *is* throttling

[Zirax]

Well it was only a matter of time. Yet another hooray for the average clueless numbskull who thinks "bigger numbers = better".

http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html/internet/traffic.html

In terms of your average user, they could not tell the difference through browsing a 512k line and a 20mb line. Check the ratings 20mb line becomes 5mb after about 20mins use (full speed). For me on the 4mb line..... 750mb before I get 2mb???? Thats crap!

The main thing thats annoying is newsgroups.... I now need to find a client that will download at specified times. I have checked newsleecher, newsbin, none of them do it.

[Matblack]

Well it was only a matter of time. Yet another hooray for the average clueless numbskull who thinks "bigger numbers = better".

http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html/internet/traffic.html

In terms of your average user, they could not tell the difference through browsing a 512k line and a 20mb line. Check the ratings 20mb line becomes 5mb after about 20mins use (full speed). For me on the 4mb line..... 750mb before I get 2mb???? Thats crap!

The main thing thats annoying is newsgroups.... I now need to find a client that will download at specified times. I have checked newsleecher, newsbin, none of them do it.

Yep thats the first thing I started to look for when I would this, a newsgroup reader which does timings :/

The best solution for me that the moment is to line everything up in Grabit and then VNC into my main rig in the morning before I go to work and kick it all off, but if it over runs to 4PM then I could cripple my connection for the evening :/

MB

[Zirax]

That is a way around it. If I put VNC onto the server, then I can tinker with it from work. :/

I can see me often hitting that limit, I tend to listen to net radio in the evenings.

[Mark]

Given the fact they've been trialling this for several months, it doesn't surprise me. Truly unlimited bandwidth usage *is* unsustainable at the rates typically being charged to home users. If you want uncontended service, you're going to have to pay for it.

[Flibster]

Shock horror...
Virgin screwing the customer over. *ex-virgin employee here*

Still, at least they're being honest about it unlike some ISP's

Simon/~Flibster

[Dymetrie]

Well either their figures are incredibly wrong or the Virgin infrastructure here is seriously dodgy..

Have been dropping as low as 20KB/s download at points :/

Either that or their idea of increasing XL to 20MB has, in this area, been at the expense of screwing everyone that isn't on XL :s

[Feek]

Not surprised really, Eclipse have told me that they're limiting bandwidth betwixt 18:00 and midnight and I've noticed it.

[leowyatt]

Think I'm going to have to start cron jobbing any torrents that are running :D make sure it gets killed off at 15:45 and starts again after midnight.

[Zirax]

Torrents are easy to schedule times for, Azureus does this with a simple plug in. For speed newsgroups >>>>> torrents.

[LeperousDust]

Doesn't newleecher have a schedule client? Sure it does, i haven't used it in almost a year now because i cant access nntp direct from uni so it got deleted. But check the program again, newsleecher is one of the most feature rich newsreaders out there. Especially the last beta i checked out (which will certainly be mainstream now!).

[8 I3ALL]

Doesn't newleecher have a schedule client? Sure it does, i haven't used it in almost a year now because i cant access nntp direct from uni so it got deleted. But check the program again, newsleecher is one of the most feature rich newsreaders out there. Especially the last beta i checked out (which will certainly be mainstream now!).



It sure does

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/8_I3ALL/Newsleecher.png

[Matblack]

Don't you have to pay for that?

MB

[LeperousDust]

Don't you have to pay for that?

MB

MB, you download all day from newsgroups, and your asking do you have to pay? ;D There is a freeish or cheaper version i can't remember, and a slightly more expensive one with "supersearch" which is like a crap newzbin (ie dont pay for supersearch ;) )

It's pretty easy to fall about newsleechers programs and if not by all means PM me, i may not use it until i'm in my flat next year but i sure as hell can get it...

[Admiral Huddy]

I've noticed that the torrents have been dropping my Internet connection for some reason?? It'll work fine for the torrent but as soon as I want to use it for internet access, i have to disable then re-enable the connection?

So are you saying that the XL isn't worth it now?

[Robert]

XL is worth it.

I'd guess the torrents could be causing issues with your router.

[Matblack]

XL is worth it for burst speed but if you max out your connection for more than a quarter of an hour during peak times (4-12) they are going to pin you back to 5Mb for 4 hours as punishment.

Obviously the trick is to schedule all d/l'ing for outside those times. This is going to screw the idea of legit internet downloading of movies being used as an alternative to Blockbuster for example, because if you d/l a file the size of a DVD by the time you get a quater of the way through you're going to get hit by the traffic shaping :/

MB

[Zirax]

Aha, the version of newsleecher that I had didn't seem to do it. If I can schedule the downloads then thats better still, though I still think I will install winvnc for remote tinkering from work :)

Thats a damn good point MB, all this limiting is really going to put a dent in the business plans by bbc and ilk to stream shows over the net using a form of p2p

[Daz]

Kinda lucky as I'm only downloading relatively small files - not native High-Def stuff. I VPN home first thing if I want something, and I'm normally done by midday/early afternoon - even on my paltry 2MB.