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For the last couple of days I've had big problems connecting to trackers, for many hours in the evening I just don't get a connection. It's fine the next day and then gone again in the evening.
A google produced this from the 24th September:
Has your BitTorrent stopped working today? Try this....
Get firefox. Use the User Agent Switcher extension:
http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/
Set it up in Tools->User Agent Switcher->Options->Options, add a
user-agent, anything in the first line, "uTorrent/1610" (without quotes)
in the second line. Alternatively, try "Asureus" - that doesn't work for
me either.
Try to browse any web page.
Does it work for you? It doesn't for me. Change it back to any other
useragent, and everything works again.
Eclipse doesn't even be polite in sending back an RST, they just seem to
silently drop the packets.
I guess what that's doing is making Firefox identify itself as uTorrent (which is the application I use) and when I do what it says, I can't connect to any web site.
So that says to me that Eclipse are now blocking torrent applications at certain times of the day.
It's not so bad with existing and ongoing downloads as uTorrent works without being able to connect to the tracker via DHT but one site I use doesn't support that so everything just stops.
I'm annoyed. :(
Bugger, there ain't going to be much you can do about that. Do you have a box somewhere you can SSH tunnel through and connect to the tracker through?
You're talking foreign to me...
Ah, ignore me then. What I was wondering was if you had a server somewhere that you could create an SSH tunnel (Secure SHell) to and then send your torrent tracker stuff down that tunnel. Eclipse wouldn't be able to see what's in the tunnel.
Well I've got a Windows server in the house, would that do? I've never played with SSH before although I've heard the term.
Christ, I suck at explaining things today. I meant to say that it needs to be with an ISP other than Eclipse since the connections to the tracker would be made from that server.
That's what I was wondering. No. Arse.
So I'd need to find someone who isn't with Eclipse who can run an SSH tunnel for my tracker stuff? I'm guessing that my tracker traffic would then leave me all wrapped up in an SSH tunnel, diddle through the internet to them and go out from there to the actual tracker? All other traffic would just go out as normal.
Is that right?
/edit - Or change ISP
Spot on. Changing ISPs may be the easiest solution but from what I remember Eclipse give you nice stuff like a /29, custom PTR records and so on and I don't think there are many other ISPs that do that.
Yup - spot on.
I have SSH tunnelling configured at home (in fact I'm posting through it right now), but given I'm on a business connection and I need it for work I'm not sure I can risk it if the content is in any way questionable - a cease and desist letter from the RIAA or whoever probably wouldn't go down too well. :(
Aye, I'm loathe to do it :(
Seems confirmed.
http://tinyurl.com/2pptpn
/edit - And I've logged a call with their support people. They have an FUP which I'm not breaking because it specifies 50Gb, I pay the absolute maximum and they're treating me like a ****.
Oh dear. Hope this isn't another PlusNet-esque saga in the making. I remember the forum rants when PN started throttling P2P like crazy.
Sadly I see this is a no-win situation. The biggest downloaders will always head for the ISP with the least caps, and then the ISP has to apply caps or die. Rinse and repeat ad infinitum.
Could you find a torrent client that supports altering its user agent? Or if you're feeling uber, find the source to one and alter it yourself?
Not sure how the trackers would take it but if they're only filtering by user agent that would do it.
Ooh, sneaky, but a good plan. :)
That's something I wondered and I grabbed the source for 3.1.0 of ABC earlier, but I can't find the user agent string.
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/source_codes/abc.cfm
C:\Users\Daz\Desktop\3.1.0>grep -i -r agent *
BitTornado/BT1/HTTPDownloader.py: {'User-Agent': VERSION})
BitTornado/HTTPHandler.py: self.headers.get('user-agent','-') )
BitTornado/HTTPHandler.py: responsecode, length, referrer, useragent):
BitTornado/HTTPHandler.py: minute, second, header, responsecode, length, referrer, useragent)
BitTornado/zurllib.py: { 'User-Agent': VERSION,
Somewhere in HTTPHandler by the looks of it. I'd look further but I need a bath. I smell :)
You need to change product_name at the top of BitTornado/__init__.py
PS - Someone else with Cygwin, perchance? :)
Flibster
26-09-2007, 21:57
Currently getting 350kb on a torrent on eclipse. Using Azureus 2.something...
Simon/~Flibster
You need to change product_name at the top of BitTornado/__init__.py
PS - Someone else with Cygwin, perchance? :)
Not on the laptop, just UnxUtils in my PATH, which I put on all my doze installs :)
Not on the laptop, just UnxUtils in my PATH, which I put on all my doze installs :)
Ditto - it's a set of essential stuff for me. In addition I also whack in host and dig because nslookup is poo.
I tolerate nslookup. Though I do put nmap on some of the rigs, randomly.
Mark - UnxUtils has this lot:
C:\Program Files\UnxUtils\usr\local\wbin>ls
agrep.exe expand.exe makedepend.exe su.exe
ansi2knr.exe expr.exe makemsg.exe sum.exe
basename.exe factor.exe man.exe sync.exe
bc.exe fgrep.exe md5sum.exe tac.exe
bison.exe find.exe mkdir.exe tail.exe
bunzip2.exe flex.exe mkfifo.exe tar.exe
bzip2.exe fmt.exe mknod.exe tee.exe
bzip2recover.exe fold.exe mv.exe test.exe
cat.exe fsplit.exe mvdir.exe touch.exe
chgrp.exe gawk.exe nl.exe tr.exe
chmod.exe gclip.exe od.exe type.exe
chown.exe gplay.exe paste.exe uname.exe
cksum.exe grep.exe patch.exe unexpand.exe
cmp.exe gsar.exe pathchk.exe uniq.exe
comm.exe gunzip.exe pclip.exe unrar.exe
compress.exe gzip.exe pr.exe unshar.exe
cp.exe head.exe printenv.exe unzip.exe
csplit.exe id.exe printf.exe uudecode.exe
cut.exe indent.exe pwd.exe uuencode.exe
date.exe install.exe recode.exe wc.exe
dc.exe join.exe rm.exe wget.exe
dd.exe jwhois.exe rman.exe wget.hlp
df.exe less.exe rmdir.exe which.exe
diff.exe lesskey.exe sdiff.exe whoami.exe
diff3.exe libfl.a sed.exe xargs.exe
dircolors.exe libfl.lib seq.exe yes.exe
dirname.exe ln.exe shar.exe zcat.exe
du.exe logname.exe sleep.exe zip.exe
echo.exe ls.exe sort.exe
egrep.exe m4.exe split.exe
env.exe make.exe stego.exe
The basics but it makes a real difference. Makes the doze shell not quite so useless.
It might have something to do with demenoid being down. Their servers in Canada may have been forced to shut down, so that's the biggest tracker site down.
Possibly, but Feekles changed his user agent to uTorrent and couldn't get any websites so there's more to it than Demenoid being down.
Currently getting 350kb on a torrent on eclipse. Using Azureus 2.something...
If the software supports DHT then you will continue to download, even if you can't get to the trackers.
It might have something to do with demenoid being down. Their servers in Canada may have been forced to shut down, so that's the biggest tracker site down.
Nope, it's not that - I'm getting the same with private trackers.
Possibly, but Feekles changed his user agent to uTorrent and couldn't get any websites so there's more to it than Demenoid being down.
Could I be being capped? Possible I suppose but according to their website, my status against the Fair Usage Policy is green which means I'm fine. I've logged a support call to say "my p2p is being blocked, I pay for your top level of service and am not breaking any FUP, unblock this traffic immediately"
Not really a solution, but I really do recommend UKFSN. You get the usual evening slowdown, but you are guaranteed a minimum of 2mb. Normally on my lousy phone line I get 470k/sec down with 30/300gb caps per month
Could I be being capped? Possible I suppose but according to their website, my status against the Fair Usage Policy is green which means I'm fine. I've logged a support call to say "my p2p is being blocked, I pay for your top level of service and am not breaking any FUP, unblock this traffic immediately"
The term 'cap' is pretty broad so I'd say it's possible but I've not heard of a cap being put on a specific type of transfer just on the connection as a whole.
They're bloody expensive, Zirax - £79.99 for an 8Mb connection with caps?
I don't know how much you're paying now Feek, but Zen (http://www.zen.co.uk/broadband/ZenBroadband.aspx) are by far the best ISP I've used. Had BT been able to maintain the copper between my place and the Exchange properly then I'd still be with them.
Zen accounts come with a /29, custom PTR records and the best customer service I've had from an ISP.
I'm currently paying £30/month to Eclipse for a service which now seems to have a limit of 50Gb/month although I've never officially been notified that it changed from unlimited.
The custom PTR is the reverse lookup on my domain isn't it? That's essential to me for my outgoing email.
I'd also need a static IP and not sure about the /29.
Yup - custom PTR is the reverse DNS lookup (which, as you correctly say, you need for email).
These seem to be the closest to your price bracket:
Zen 8000 Active - 20GB - 1 or 8 static IP - £24.99
Zen 8000 Pro - 50GB - 1 or 8 static IP - £34.99
Aye, PTR is the reverse DNS.
With Zen you can either have a single static IP address or a /29 subnet (block of 8 IP's which ends up giving you 5 usable once you take away the base address, broadcast address & router IP address).
Hey, in the last few minutes I can connect to trackers again *sigh*
Ahh right, I only have a single static at the moment and I can see the logic behind having a bank of five, but not with my current router. I assume there's no reason not to have them though, and just use the one.
I'll see the response of the ticket I've logged with Eclipse and then request a MAC code once they give me some bollocks back about the FUP.
It's a shame, Eclipse used to regularly be rated the best for both performance and customer service on adslguide. They've been going gradually downhill for a while now, since Kingston took them over.
It's a shame when a takeover happens the service level all too often ends up at the lowest common denominator (from what I've heard Kcomm have never been good).
They're bloody expensive, Zirax - £79.99 for an 8Mb connection with caps?
??? £80 for the truely unlimited service
http://www.ukfsn.org/home/internet/adsl/maxallowance.html
I'm on the Home max 30 service and I can't really fault it. Web pages are snappy during peak times, most of the time during peak (8-10pm) my downloads are still over 300k.
Peak is 8 am to 10 pm
I just set my downloads to go overnight, to get through 300gb in a month, thats some serious downloading !!
Ahh, I was looking at the wrong page. That seems the way to go on their Home Max 60 service. As long as they can give me reverse dns settings then that's what I want.
I've mailed their support.
And I got a reply within 12 minutes saying that they do.
MAC requested.
And my ticket with Eclipse has been updated:
27/09/07 09:32
Dear Feek,
We have not made any block on the P2P traffic. Please can you advise if the issue is connecting to peers or the throughput of data once connected.
Thanks
BS.
Damn straight. I wouldn't tolerate that either.
And I got a reply within 12 minutes saying that they do.
MAC requested.
They have been good when I have contacted them. For info they are an Entanet reseller. When I get home I will post the link that allows you to monitor your usage (from entanet)
I probably have to go to ADSL myself and quite liked the look of UKFSN until I saw the ~£50 activation charge :|
No charge for a migration though which is what I'll be doing.
I've received my MAC code from Eclipse already.
I thought all the adsl companies charge to activate your line, other than say bulldog
Might be the case now but it wasn't when I was shopping for my folks. Free activation was common at that time.
I'm all done, signed up, made first payment, etc etc. I went for the £29.99/month option, 60Gb peak, 330Gb off peak.
All the ISPs I've looked at over the last day have a charge for new users but free for migrating in.
Gutted. Might have to go for Virgin ADSL in that case :/
I'm with UKFSN too. Been fautless so far with good speeds.
PN still offer free activation but you have to stay with them for 12 months - if you can tolerate them, that is.
Totally painless - I have my IP and logon details and my migration is set for Monday week :D
.... and my home internet connection has just timed out so the migration is happening right now :)
http://www.ukrm.org/feek/ukfsn.jpg
Just a couple of days to go this month, this ISP is working quite well :)
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