Time to buy a PS3? [Archive]

iicatsii

10-10-2007, 07:58

The price of the PS3 drops today, along with the release of a new (but crappier) model.

The new entry level version retails at £299, but is missing 2 USB ports, PS2 compatibility and the card readers.

The premium version is now £350 and has all the extras plus two games.

The hard drives in both machines are a bit puny though, but the PS3 can take any 2.5 ATA drive so it's pretty good for upgrading.

karbon

10-10-2007, 08:10

£350 is a price i'd pay.... if there were 2 games that i wanted. as it stands heavenly sword is the only thing that's interested me. RFoM plays alright but it's not something i'd give my own money for.

iicatsii

10-10-2007, 08:22

Bartering might get some stores to change at least one of the games, however I'm a fan of RFoM so the choice of games you get with the premium pack isn't a problem for me.

Plus it's a cheap way of getting your hands on a Blu-Ray player.

Mark

10-10-2007, 08:49

Which bit of the PS2 compatibility did they remove? I thought they'd already done that tbh. :huh:

I am, however, going to put my head in a bucket and ignore this completely. :)

iicatsii

10-10-2007, 08:57

Which bit of the PS2 compatibility did they remove? I thought they'd already done that tbh. :huh:

The EU version of the PS3 had a PS2 software emulator built in, the rest of the world had the Emotion Engine on chip in their PS3s. The software version is a failure so they've just removed it.

The US version of the PS3 has the Emotion Engine removed from newer models, but has the soft emulator as a replacement.

Matblack

10-10-2007, 09:43

The games for the PS3 seems to be a little more expensive in the shops but a little cheaper secondhand in places like Gamestation.

For me there were only three reasons to get a PS2 which kind of map to the PS3 and they were FF and GT, the third reason was you could pick up game cheap secondhand.

I might invest but not for another year.

MB

Davey_Pitch

10-10-2007, 09:46

When enough games come out for the PS3 that I want (and are exclusive) then I'll seriously consider it, but not until then. Looking ahead there simply aren't enough exclusive PS3 games that I'm interested in (beyond MGS4) whereas there are lots on the 360.

I'll definitely get one at some point, but not for a while yet.

iicatsii

10-10-2007, 09:46

Amazon are pretty good, as they sell most PS3 games for £29.99, still places like GAME sell PS3 games for £45 - 50 which is way too much.

petemc

10-10-2007, 10:05

Feek

10-10-2007, 10:19

Never say never, but I can't see it for the forseeable future.

iicatsii

10-10-2007, 10:28

Agreed. There's also that slim chance that 6 months down the line MGS4 might be announced for the 360.

Going by past MGS games, it’s more likely a MGS4: Substance game will be released on the PS3 and Xbox360 a year to 18 months after the PS3 original.

Daz

10-10-2007, 10:46

If you dont already own a 360 or PS3, then it's getting there for sure. Saw on HotUKDeals the other day you can buy the new basic PS3 (killing the BC is a stupid move imo fwiw) with Fifa 08 I think for £299. Of course if Blueray is important to you then decision made, but purely for gaming? Dunno really. The Xbox has the games catalogue at the moment, and arguably the better online service - but that service comes at a cost, and the games stack for PS3 will only go up, and they're doing good things with PS3/PSP interoperability.

I'd still argue it's a little too soon I think. Next price drop after christmas, hopefully when Home is out, would be a good time to do it I think. Of course, already owning a 360 I cant see myself switching, but for those yet to take the plunge I'd say either wait or buy a 360 Elite.

Zirax

10-10-2007, 10:54

I'm looking at one of the consoles for use over xmas. The PS3 looked good with resistance when I saw that being demo'd. The main issue is the lack of good games on it. Granted there are a few, but nothing compared to the xbox 360. The release of the console wasn't a surprise to the developers, simply where are the games?

I'm looking at the xbox 360 elite but the ps3 has until xmas to tell me otherwise. Another reason is everyone on here has xbox 360's

Daz

10-10-2007, 11:00

RE: Backwards compatabilty, this (http://www.rewiredmind.com/opinionated/ps3-minus-ps2-is-it-really-that-bad/) just popped up in my RSS reader, and the guy has a point I guess.

iicatsii

10-10-2007, 11:19

iicatsii

10-10-2007, 12:36

GAMESTATION have the 60gig pack but with 2 Blu Ray movies for the same price

LINK (http://www.gamestation.co.uk/discountaddall.asp?discountid=294)

NokkonWud

10-10-2007, 15:32

I would always go for an Xbox360 first purely through the strength not only of its exclusives, but also the strength of its ported games.

Fayshun

10-10-2007, 15:34

Beautiful Katamari,

The Squid cooking simulator?

iicatsii

10-10-2007, 15:41

The Squid cooking simulator?

I know who to come to for horrible puns.

Davey_Pitch

10-10-2007, 16:00

The only titles on the Xbox360 that have caught my eye are Dead Rising and Beautiful Katamari, whilst Halo is a good game it is terribly over-rated.

Sony will be getting my money at some point with the PS3.
Each to their own I guess, but I don't see what the PS3 currently has that isn't bettered on the Xbox 360.

iicatsii

10-10-2007, 16:10

Each to their own I guess, but I don't see what the PS3 currently has that isn't bettered on the Xbox 360.

fanbois are lol.

What it all comes down to is good games, the only other game I would want on the Xbox is GTA4 and although the head of Rockstar Sam Hauser has said that the Xbox is getting exclusive content for it - but you've got to remember that Sam Hauser is full of **** when it comes to exclusive rights (see the GTA stories games.)

Wii is disappointing due to it's lack of games, mines gathering dust - the xbox has no games that interest me bar Dead Rising. That only leaves the PS3 which has some interesting games.

Daz

10-10-2007, 16:15

fanbois are lol.
Indeed ;)

Davey_Pitch

10-10-2007, 22:35

fanbois are lol.

Nice. So instead of actually answering my point, you call me a fanboy. Perhaps you need to learn a little about me before you call me that ;)

iicatsii

11-10-2007, 06:06

"but I don't see what the PS3 currently has that isn't bettered on the Xbox 360."

Is a fanboi statement. You made it with nothing to back it up.

I would've bought an Xbox Elite at one point, but because instead fixing the problems that the Xbox has due to its p1ss poor engineering and just slapping a black case on it to cover up its taint, Microsoft didn't get my cash.

And it is p1ss poor engineered, you don't piggy back several heat intensive components without proper heat dissipation and then don't expect it to burn itself out. The idea of the Xbox is good, it's badly executed though.

Roberta

11-10-2007, 08:04

Making friends again I see.

iicatsii

11-10-2007, 08:15

The internet isn't for friends; it's for Hæt, Lulz and Ebay scams.

Stelly

11-10-2007, 08:23

I would say go with a 360... I have played Fable 2... thats just worth it!

Stelly

petemc

11-10-2007, 08:49

I don't really care how the xbox is engineered. It could have a carrot in there for all I care as long as it continues to run games I enjoy. The PS3 lacks games I want. A lot have become 360 exclusives like Ace Combat, Devil May Cry and so on.

iicatsii

11-10-2007, 08:55

A lot have become 360 exclusives like Ace Combat, Devil May Cry and so on.

LOL WAHT???

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/6184/514pxdmc4boxartic3.jpg

petemc

11-10-2007, 09:10

Holy carp swimming upstream I got something slightly wrong. Right, I'm off to game to buy a PS3. I'm sold! I convinced from that cover art that bluray is the future. Look at the detail in that, the smooth gameplay. Wow.

iicatsii

11-10-2007, 09:15

Slightly wrong is something along the lines of a minor spelling mistake, to lie about something is abject failure (insert smiley).

petemc

11-10-2007, 09:18

Well I'll go sit in the abject failure tent with the PS3. Keep the old chap company.

Davey_Pitch

11-10-2007, 09:35

"but I don't see what the PS3 currently has that isn't bettered on the Xbox 360."

Is a fanboi statement. You made it with nothing to back it up.

You want me to explain myself? Fine, I'll happily do so.

Here in my opinion are the best games on the PS3 to date.....

Ninja Gaiden Sigma (Action)
Oblivion (RPG)
Motorstorm (Driving)
Resistance (Shooter)
Heavenly Sword (Action)

Out of those games, there's nothing there that isn't matched or bettered by the 360. Ninja Gaiden Sigma is simply a remake of Ninja Gaiden Black with a few tweaks and extra levels (none of which have actually helped according to the reviews I've read). Oblivion is available on the 360 and done just as well. Motorstorm is beaten by Project Gotham 3 and Forza Motorsport 2 (though they're different types of racing games so I'll admit opinions will vary on which is better). Resistance is beaten by a number of Xbox 360 shooters, with Gears of War and Bioshock both at the top of the list (and Xbox 360 exclusive I might add). Heavenly Sword is also beaten by several action games, with Ninja Gaiden being the most obvious one (and that's a generation old).

Obviously everyone has opinions and I'm fine with yours being different from mine. Out of everyone in this thread though, only one person has sounded like a fanboy, and this post is directed straight at him ;)

leowyatt

11-10-2007, 09:46

I had my heart set on a PS3 for a long time because I wanted RE:5. However after seeing Gears of War I jumped ship to the 360 and haven't looked back. Thankfully RE:5 will be on the 360 too which is great.

The fact I was set on a PS3 and ended up buying a 360 should show I'm not a fanboi. I can honestly say there is nothing that would persuade me to buy a PS3. I'm happy to say I've had my 360 approaching 12 months now and it cost me alot less then a PS3 and I get to play with all my friends on great games such as GoW and COD4 :)

Davey_Pitch

11-10-2007, 09:56

I think the fact I currently own a PS2, Gamecube, Wii, Xbox, Xbox 360, Nintendo DS and Sony PSP should show I'm not a fanboy. The mere suggestion I am is laughable in the extreme. I buy consoles when I have a reason to, and that reason is simply that there are enough games on it to warrant a purchase. And to put it bluntly, there's nothing on the PS3 currently that's worth my time and money. That will likely change in the future, so I'll end up with a PS3 when there's enough reasons to own one.

leowyatt

11-10-2007, 09:59

I suppose the short answer to iicatsii's question is "No" ;D

Davey_Pitch

11-10-2007, 10:03

Heheh, IMO, definitely no reason to buy one just yet. With the 360 being more mature, having more games available (and better ones IMO), the arcade games, Xbox Live, and a thriving community, I don't see a reason to step away from it yet.

As I said though, each to their own :)

SidewinderINC

13-10-2007, 18:42

Well I was going to make a thread about buying a console and which one as I dont own any at the moment :o

But reading this thread and a few of the X360 threads has made my mind up I think.

However the PS3 having Blu-Ray is making me think twice..
I havent really kept up to date with media stuff *don't hurt me*, is this going to take off and be as widespread as DVDs? or is it going to be the Minidisk of the film world?

Davey_Pitch

13-10-2007, 22:00

From what I've read Blu-Ray is currently more popular than the HD-DVD stuff, but it's so early in the war it's impossible to say which one will eventually come out on top. It'll take a fairly long time before they become as popular (or as cheap) as DVD's so there's no pressing need to get a Blu-Ray player just yet IMO.

SidewinderINC

13-10-2007, 22:07

Thats sealed it now *shifts to time to buy Xbox360 thread*

Wellington

14-10-2007, 00:25

Davey_Pitch

14-10-2007, 00:56

The thing I like about the 360 over the PS3 is if Blue Ray is the one to take off and become the household HD player then as far as I'm aware there's nothing to stop Microsoft bringing out a blue ray player for the 360..... is there?
I don't see why not. I don't think Sony bought any exclusive rights when they licensed the Blu-Ray player, so it *should* be open for MS if there's a need for it.

After_8

15-10-2007, 06:52

I'll be getting a PS3 when Final Fantasy XIII is released, but until then I'll be trying my damnedest to avoid the thing (which isn't hard, since Heavenly Sword is the only game I've seen that even remotely interests me) since I'd very much like Sony to lose large amounts of money on it after the way they've been screwing over their customers lately.

Daz

15-10-2007, 10:36

The thing I like about the 360 over the PS3 is if Blue Ray is the one to take off and become the household HD player then as far as I'm aware there's nothing to stop Microsoft bringing out a blue ray player for the 360..... is there?
Correct. Indeed, Microsoft have said as much (http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/7208.cfm) :)

Haly

15-10-2007, 10:50

Final Fantasy XIII is the one game that may sway me to a PS3 but not for a good while yet as it seems a bit pricey for the games on offer. There's just not enough that stands out for me yet.

Wellington

15-10-2007, 22:14

Correct. Indeed, Microsoft have said as much (http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/7208.cfm) :)

Good good, I shall continue to wait then. :)

Del Lardo

15-10-2007, 22:34

After a huge amount of peer pressure one of my mates finally buckled over the weekend and bought one. The silly boy got it slightly wrong and bought a PS3 rather than a 360. It managed 20 minutes before dying. We certainly didn't laugh at him ;D

I popped into my old house on Sunday and found a cheque for £85 from MS. 360ftw

Davey_Pitch

16-10-2007, 09:10

The PS3 died in 20 mins?! That's poor, didn't realise they could die so quickly!

leowyatt

16-10-2007, 09:18

It managed 20 minutes before dying.

:shocked: that is terrible!

Daz

16-10-2007, 09:26

To be fair that's not the norm. From what I read the reliability of the PS3 has so far been very good, much better than the 360, though it's relatively early days for it.

Flibster

16-10-2007, 10:43

Had a PS3 over the weekend on loan froma mate trying to convert me.

As my launchday 360 is sat in it's box in the cupboard I thought it may be worth a look.

WRONG!

Finish is tacky, size is too big, many of the games are simply dreadful *although the same could be said about the 360 - but there are many more great games on the 360* Controller is still uncomfortable and is also far too light - but that may be solved by the reintroduction of rumble

It's just not impressive at all. Other than in size.

Bluray is alright - but as Sony is effectively in charge of it - I don't hold out much hope for the format. They've already changed the specification once since release - rendering some players useless - and the new protection causes some players to reject disks... Nicely done.

HD-DVD - none of those issues. Got the 360's HD-DVD drive sat inside my PC nicely - currently playing Batman Begins in 1920x1080 on a 24" CRT :D

Buy a Wii instead. ;) Much more fun. Get in quick though, there's going to be another shortage this christmas.

Xbox 360, Xbox, Nintendo Wii, Gamecube, Nintendo DS Lite, Gameboy Advance, Gameboy Colour, Gameboy, SNES, NES, Megadrive, SegaCD, 32X, Master system, Playstation and Playstation 2 owner....

The Wii is the only one set up at the moment.

leowyatt

18-10-2007, 16:22

Called into gamestation today and saw a woman trading in her son's PS3 towards something (didn't catch what it was) and they offered her £180 for it :shocked:

Haly

18-10-2007, 16:25

That's harsh :shocked:
Did she take it? She could have got so much more on ebay :(

leowyatt

18-10-2007, 16:28

Yeah he was already checking the contents when I saw his colleague scan the box and she seemed happy with that :shocked:

I'm so glad I never bought one of them.

Haly

18-10-2007, 16:29

Silly woman :(

Feek

25-02-2008, 22:44

I've just discovered that GT5 will have the Top Gear track on it.

I therefore want a PS3.

LeperousDust

25-02-2008, 22:55

Bluray is alright - but as Sony is effectively in charge of it - I don't hold out much hope for the format. They've already changed the specification once since release - rendering some players useless - and the new protection causes some players to reject disks... Nicely done.

HD-DVD - none of those issues. Got the 360's HD-DVD drive sat inside my PC nicely - currently playing Batman Begins in 1920x1080 on a 24" CRT :D

:p ;D :D

Feek

25-02-2008, 22:58

I giggled at that as I read back through the thread ;D

Joe 90

26-02-2008, 01:10

i've been very tempted to get a PS3 recently - thankfully theres only the crap 40gb system on the shelves.

divine

26-02-2008, 01:48

i've been very tempted to get a PS3 recently - thankfully theres only the crap 40gb system on the shelves.

Why crap?

The only thing it's missing of any note is the PS2 backwards compatibility and to be honest, if there was anything that good you really wanted on PS2 you'd have bought one and played it already surely?

If it really bothers you, new pstwos are only £50 or so now anyway...

(the only other differences being lack of SACD support, 2 less USB ports and no flash card reader)

Feek

26-02-2008, 07:27

I can think of a very good reason for wanting backwards compatibility and that's to remove the PS2 that's currently plugged into the telly.

Wossi

26-02-2008, 09:34

I keep getting tempted to buy a PS3, but then realise that 99% of the games I would play are out on the 360 so would be a waste of money really. Shame, as I'd really like to try one out and see what it's like.

divine

26-02-2008, 09:56

I can think of a very good reason for wanting backwards compatibility and that's to remove the PS2 that's currently plugged into the telly.

Are you really likely to use it that much?

I don't remember anyone i knew doing any more than going 'ooooh look my ps1 games work still' with their PS2 before subsequently being too busy playing new games.

Joe 90

26-02-2008, 10:07

The only thing it's missing of any note is the PS2 backwards compatibility and to be honest, if there was anything that good you really wanted on PS2 you'd have bought one and played it already surely?

If it really bothers you, new pstwos are only £50 or so now anyway...

(the only other differences being lack of SACD support, 2 less USB ports and no flash card reader)
they chopped out all those extras that'd actually got me to like it in the first place... built in wifi, plenty of usbs, card readery thing... and then they removed the compatibility... it would of been nice to just pick up a cheap copy of MGS or something.
oh well... maybe i'll pick up one of theose new slimmer ps2s whenever they turn up.

divine

26-02-2008, 10:13

It has inbuilt WiFi, only the 20GB didn't have that which was sold for about a month in the US and was NTSC only anyway.

USB went from 4 to 2, hardly the end of the world, not a great deal uses them.

Card reader, not entirely sure what you'd use that for that couldn't be done with a USB drive.

As for the new slim PS2, it's the same size as the current Slim PS2 that sells for £50 but with a built in PSU.

Joe 90

26-02-2008, 10:23

i see - not that bad then... well better than i had been led to believe.

might have to go have a gander over the game selection.

oh, btw, any news on when this new ps2 will be available here?

divine

26-02-2008, 10:27

No idea, last I heard was 'early 2008' for a general release. I wouldn't be too worried though, it's barely any different to the one already out, the only difference is the lack of the PSU being in the power cable. Depends if not having that would be worth waiting and probably paying more for.

Davey_Pitch

26-02-2008, 10:50

Are you really likely to use it that much?

I don't remember anyone i knew doing any more than going 'ooooh look my ps1 games work still' with their PS2 before subsequently being too busy playing new games.

I would. I still love my PS2 games and although I don't play them much, I do like the option of playing them whenever I want. I wouldn't have that if I had to reconnect the PS2 every time I wanted to play something.

divine

26-02-2008, 11:49

I would. I still love my PS2 games and although I don't play them much, I do like the option of playing them whenever I want. I wouldn't have that if I had to reconnect the PS2 every time I wanted to play something.

Why disconnect it at all if you'd use it that much? :p

Point of interest though - Sony were hiring for what seemed like position to code a software emulator, so maybe it'll get backwards compat through software sometime in the future via an update :dunno:

Marmoset

26-02-2008, 12:34

I bought a PS3 a month or so ago to use as a Blu-ray player for our plasma screen. The fact that it plays games as well is a bonus. :)

IMO as a Blu-ray player it excels and having played through Uncharted: Drake's Fortune and Motorstorm it's not doing too badly as a games console either.