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http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/desktopedition
whoo screw vista ultimate - ubuntu ftw :D
*maybe i'm too quick - keep getting file not found errors on the kent and oxford mirrors :(
Better grabbing the torrent while the mirrors sort themselves out :)
I'm not liking their insistence on including Comiz / Beryl by default. They're still very much beta products and still buggy IME. For example I can't run Gutsy on my Linux box at home without doing some serious messing about in the Xorg config file due to the integrated NVIDIA graphics card.
It should be more of a conscious choice, which it hasn't been up until now (not tried release version yet)
My server has been upgraded via command line already. Not sure yet whether I'll bother with my PC here at work. Feisty is working fine.
I can understand the decision Garp. They're trying to get Joe desktop user onto Ubuntu and those users are only going to compare it to Windows, likely Vista. Having some prettyness will help.
So long as the pre-requisite checks work well I'm fine with the choice personally, though I've yet to test that in action myself.
Do you know if they've moved vmware-server into the gutsy commercial repository yet?
I can understand the decision Garp. They're trying to get Joe desktop user onto Ubuntu and those users are only going to compare it to Windows, likely Vista. Having some prettyness will help.
So long as the pre-requisite checks work well I'm fine with the choice personally, though I've yet to test that in action myself.
Do you know if they've moved vmware-server into the gutsy commercial repository yet?
There is no gutsy commercial repository yet.. there is a "gutsy" one alongside "feisty-commercial" on canonical's site but all its got in it is opera.
I'll leave my server box for a while then. I use the vmware-server packages for convenience. If it takes too long for them to sort out newer versions then I'll probably go back to source but I'll give them time for now :)
don't think torrent's are downloadable from uni...left it sat in opera for a while and it didn't start :(
i'll have to put up with 170kb/s :(
Maybe a bit late, but my server is getting a great speed from the torrent.. I'm happy to nab the i386 and 64bit iso's and have them available for a few days for BD folks.
LeperousDust
18-10-2007, 17:09
I'd really like to dual boot between Vista and this, but Vista is already using my whole laptop. I've got a few gigs worth of space left. It would be backwards of me to format and partition just to put Gutsy on unfortunately. And i don't want to trust a partition manager when i could lose so much :(. Also even with Gutsy installed on a few gig space i'd have no room to play and i still dont entirely trust linux reading and writing to my exisitng NTFS partitions...
Someday when i reinstall Vista because its bogged down...
Right i386 iso is available:
ftp address: bliss.paulgraydon.co.uk
username: ftp
password: e-mail addy.
i still dont entirely trust linux reading and writing to my exisitng NTFS partitions...
Don't be, it's excellent now. Even the paranoid people I know will trust it read-only at least.
Found a nice source for the amd64 iso, I'll have it available in about 5 minutes
edit: and Its there :)
got an odd problem...
the disk boots fine, but after selecting any of the options from the menu it shuts down my monitor - i get the powersave message and then the green light just flickers....
wtf?
i can't do **** without being able to see whats goin on!
I had that with Edgy. Took some fiddling around with the boot manager to sort it. I can't remember the commands offhand but you need to disable the fancy startup graphics.
well i've found this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
but its been that long since i used and unix systems that i'm a little cautious...can you run those commands whilst running it 'live'
When it gets to the boot screen, hit the key that says to edit the boot commandline (possibly F6, but it'll be along the bottom of the screen), and add 'noquiet nosplash' on the end. That should hopefully get you to a state that allows you to install.
Isn't it just another distro, what's so good?
I have actually moved from Ubuntu to Gentoo now. I found it to be too much handholding and whatnot and it started to get intrusive. I didnt want to move to debian proper or slackware so Gentoo it was. Huge learning curve but now I am getting there its much better IMO. Certainly faster when you get it set up right.
6.10 was the best 'buntu for me, I really hated 7.04. Maybe I will try 7.10 in a VM or something.
I can also host the binaries for a while if people want their bandwidth back? I have 0 limits on bandwidth and depending on the time of the day I could probably saturate 5 20Mb connections at once.
So what's different from this and the Edgy distro?
BillytheImpaler
18-10-2007, 19:35
Isn't it just another distro, what's so good?It's notable for its ease of use, clever live CD installer, support of hardware, and commitment of FOSS. Other distros like SuSE or RH are also good, shiny, and polished but they lack the "free-ness" of Ubuntu. Ubuntu fans are a vocal bunch and as such it grew in popularity. It's now the most popular distro and its success keeps attracting more people to try it.
EDIT: I love BitTorrent so much. The more people hammer the mirrors the faster my downloads get. I have downloaded all i386 and AMD64 versions and host them locally for friends and family.
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I used to use Gentoo for my server boxes but I've even moved them to ubuntu now. With the power of systems these days the speed benefits are negligible considering the extra admin overhead.
Interested as to what you mean by intrusive though?
Will - http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour
I really hated the networking side of things in 7.04. Whatever they changed really annoyed me to the point where I went back to 6.10. There were just a few things generally with ubuntu that just felt like I couldnt see what was going on where I really should have been able to see.
Ok guys, if you go to http://146.87.15.17/ you will be able to grab some ISOs. I will make the 7.10 ones available in a few minutes. Use those over anyone who pays for bandwidth's servers as I have lots of it for free. I just ask it stays within BD, if it doesn't I will pull the plug!
oh noes.
i aint got a cabled keyboard and it didn't like my MS wireless kb and mouse....
plus it crashed when i tried to tell it not to touch my external HDD!!
anyway, noquiet and nosplash worked mark cheers :)
will have another go when i got a cabled keyboard
Stan_Lite
18-10-2007, 20:18
anyway, noquiet and nosplash worked mark cheers :)
Will try that when I get home. I tried to install Feisty and Edgy on my main rig and it did the same and I couldn't get either installed.
Similar happened on the old laptop with Feisty but it was happy to install Edgy :huh:
yeah, press F6 on the boot menu and it'll pop up with the boot command thingy which you'll see "quiet splash" at the end of, you just stick 'no' in front of each. :)
*edit*
any ideas how to get my wireless keyboard working during setup/live boot - as usual it working pre-OS including the Ubuntu boot menu, but then doesn't work once the disk runs beyond that point.
Stan_Lite
18-10-2007, 20:40
yeah, press F6 on the boot menu and it'll pop up with the boot command thingy which you'll see "quiet splash" at the end of, you just stick 'no' in front of each. :)
:cool:
OK guys, http://146.87.15.17:1194 should be up and ready to go for the downloads. JANET seems to be suffering a bit tonight so the desktop mirrors were very slow, the x64 ISO wont be done yet, the x86 one might be though (Should be about 690Mb).
Im using this as a kind of speed test too - so if you could let me know what sort of speeds you get that would be ace!
MarcLister
22-10-2007, 17:11
Downloading the i386 of Ubuntu and was getting 180-250 average but its now reaching 390 very easily and averaging about 350. On BT btw.
Just installed it - it's pretty! Still need to get to grips with the changes - but it's not too different as far as the basics are concerned...
Stan_Lite
18-11-2007, 02:06
yeah, press F6 on the boot menu and it'll pop up with the boot command thingy which you'll see "quiet splash" at the end of, you just stick 'no' in front of each. :)
Excellent :cool:
Got the usual blank screen when I tried to install it but followed advice and it worked a treat.
One slight glitch was that it kept doing it when re-booting so I had to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to get it to boot without interference from me.
Working good now, will have a proper play over the weekend.
Necroposting FTW :D
Wellington
18-11-2007, 15:04
Ok I'm a complete Linux nooob.
I'm a keen gamer and pretty much use the PC solely for gaming and surfing. If I was to install this Ubuntu would I still be able to play games (in Direct X 10) what type of performance should I expect?
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