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Flibster
21-10-2007, 18:34
BUGGER BUGGER BUGGER!!
That is all.
:(
Flibster
21-10-2007, 19:01
Still - at least it wasn't the moaning spanish git.
Shame for him, but given the season the top two teams have had, I don't think either of them deserved to be able to claim a win, points or not. Very happy with the spanish git not winning though.
I'll buck the trend with a big "Yay" then :p
I would have liked to see Hamilton win but Kimi is a deserving winner. A title long overdue for him. Though Lewis made mistakes it was still all to play for but the 3 stopper and the 40 seconds his gears were messed up put paid to him taking the championship.
Still, it's far from a sad day. In his first ever season he was genuinely a Championship contender. A cracking start to a F1 career, something to celebrate. We will be seeing more of Hamilton :)
Flibster
21-10-2007, 21:32
Still - looking on the positive side - I've won £900... instead of £2200 though....
Simon/~Flibster
Flibster
21-10-2007, 22:39
FORGET THE ABOVE!!
4th, 5th and 6th places under investigation for fuel irregularities... generally you get disqualified for them.
It could be him.....
Surely not. Sounds like farce to me given all the other stuff that's gone on this season, but I guess we'll wait and see. :(
If he gets it this way I wouldn't be surprised to see teams walk. The teams are already highly suspsicious of Bernie's British bias. If this went in Hamilton's favour teams will see it as Bernie pulling strings.
Flibster
21-10-2007, 23:57
Thing is - chilled fuel is a massive advantage - up to 10 bhp
Even worse - as the fuel is more dense, less time is required in pitstops to allow the same amount of fuel to flow.
If they get disqualified then it will be a massive shame, but to be fair, people have been disqualified for it in the past so they should know not to push that rule.
10°C below ambient temps maximum....
Although word is starting to come out that there has been NO punsihment at all. So evidently it's now ok to ignore that rule. Good to know for next year.
Any other way that the FIA want to favor anyone other than McLaren?
Although, if the FIA do indeed deem customer cars to be illegal later this year, then Sato's 7th place in Canada could be removed, which would give Hamilton the point there...and then the championship.
Del Lardo
22-10-2007, 01:10
As much as I would have loved to see Hamilton win the world championship him winning in these circumstanced would elevate F1 to the complete farce that the Tour de France has become.
I cannot believe that the small differences in temperature would have made any difference to the ultimate result. McLarren threw away the world championship with some truely dire choices in China and Brazil and while I'm not a Ferrari fan I was pleased to see Kimi winning at last.
There is pressident for the teams to have championship points taken away but not the drivers and I hope that if punishment is deemed necessary this is what the FIA decide to do.
Del Lardo
22-10-2007, 01:15
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63567
All over?????
McLaren are going to appeal. No surprise there I guess. Given how popular McLaren are with the FIA I think there's only one possible result there (the right one IMO, but not because of McLaren's popularity).
The entire thing is a difficult situation. I guess the right decision should be made, the teams penalised, or they risk other teams messing about like that. There is precedent for action in two different ways though, drivers lose positions, or constructors points ditched. I suspect in interests of stopping the whole situation from being a farce, the latter is what they'll go for. They surely can't afford to not penalise for that offense or risk everyone doing it next season. If the drivers lose their places then I hope Hamilton refuses the world champion title. Even the most optimistic assesments I've seen in motor sport press puts the cold fuel advantage as being in the region of a few seconds for a lap or two until the fuel is up to temperature; so at best say 10 seconds advantage by the end of the race. Thats not enough to have made a difference to Hamilton.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7056308.stm
Even though I happen to agree that the title should should stay where it is (and so does Hamilton, it seems), I see Alonso had to stick his oar in again. WTF does it have to do with him anyway?
If he gets it this way I wouldn't be surprised to see teams walk. The teams are already highly suspsicious of Bernie's British bias. If this went in Hamilton's favour teams will see it as Bernie pulling strings.
LOL! Bernie couldn't be any more biased towards Ferrari if he tried!
Bernie's only bias is towards his bank account and he can be relied upon to make whatever decision will make him the most money.
Isn't that what I said? ;)
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