Folder authority.

[Admiral Huddy]

I get a little confused between the authorities of XP/Vista and the AS/400 :)

Can some one tell me what I need to specify on a folder for the following criteria on a machine with four users:

Folder one

I have have full access rights, everyone else can't even see it.

Folder two.

I have full access rights, everyone else can see it and view it's contents, They can copy it's contents but can't maintain the folder or it's contents.


I thought by changing "Users" would mean everyone else except me if I'm set up seperatley but not having much joy.

[Mark]

"Users" = everyone in the Users group (so excludes Power Users, Administrators, etc.). That's probably why you're having trouble. use "Everyone" instead.

[Admiral Huddy]

Is their a "Everyone" option. The only way I've got run it is by specifying individual users. Everyone else is not an Admin account type.

I'd like something like this:

Administrator (has authority to everthing)
Paul (has authority to everything)
others (have specific setting)

[Zirax]

Sorry I’m in a mischievous mood this afternoon (finished all the work before 9pm).....

In moving all Huddy's legacy stash from the green screen as/400 system, the following folders need correct permissions setting:-

Folder one = Huddy's Foot porn stash
Folder two = project plans/financials

[Mark]

Sounds about right to me. ;D

No, there isn't an "Everyone" option. Click 'Add' and type it in, then there will be. :)

[Admiral Huddy]

nope didn't like that.

I tried changing the permission of "users" but that seems to include me, an admin. I find this a little odd tbh.

Then tried adding user Paul above users then applying full admin to that but it gave an error of conflict. Again, i think I'm thinking AS/400 permissions rather than NT :D

The only way I can get round this is by specifing each user individually but there must be a quicker way. AS I said above.. Here's me I have this everyone else bugger off!

Basically i'm trying to stop the kids editing or deleting the family photos by mistake because it nearly happened. I'm quite happy for them to be viewed or copied.

[Zirax]

Just thinking but are these backup up onto either DL DVD's or a USB hdd?

[Mark]

Indeed. Lost photos once - best not make that twice. :)

[Admiral Huddy]

yes they are backed up 2 fold. However, I'd like then secure.

Any ideas?

[Daz]

Zirax's point (I think) is that if they're going onto an external hard drive, it's likely it wont be formatted NTFS (probably FAT32), and therefore cant be secured at a file system level.

Mark was right in the first instance. If the NTFS permissions are set only with a particular user having access and 'everyone' is denied (or you could even leave that out entirely, NTFS permission precedence is explicit deny, explicit allow, and implicit deny if no permissions match), that will work on an NTFS volume.

If you're copying folders between volumes then you should be aware of Windows' behaviour there. Copying files and folders to different locations on the same volume preserves the originals permissions, but, copying them to a different and the files will inherit the permissions of their new parent. If you wanted to preserve the file permissions then you'd need to you a CLI tool, robocopy or xcopy if it supports it.

[Mark]

xcopy /o supports it, as does scopy (though you'll probably not find the latter these days as it dates way back to NT 4.0). In this case though, he'd want it to lose the permissions so this information won't be of much use. :)