MMS Receiving Issue

[petemc]

Yes its a Motorola. I know :( But anyway. I can send myself a 295kb MMS and get it back fine. However when some people send me even a 24kb mms it never works. I tell the phone to redownload it and it fails, every time. Its only certain people too. Some people can send me an MMS perfectly, no issue. Others every single MMS fails saying it couldn't be downloaded, then retrying causes it to be corrupted. So yeah, Motorola Razr 2, the v8. Its really annoying. I put my sim back into my old k800i and it instantly worked. I'm stuck with this phone now for another 9 months and I really hate it when things don't work as they should. I'd gladly swap it for one of those thin SE models. Bah. Its just so silly. If it was a size issue why did mine work? Its always the same people too. I've had an MMS from a SE ok, but then not another SE. I've had it fail from a n95 too. Has to be a reason why it always fails from certain people. I guess the only way out my contract is to pay it off?

[Dr. Z]

Why not simply buy another phone rather than buying out your contract? It will probably work out about the same in the end if you pick up a phone on ebay.

Im sure there is an "I told you so" in there somewhere too :p

[A Place of Light]

Yes its a Motorola. I know :( But anyway. I can send myself a 295kb MMS and get it back fine. However when some people send me even a 24kb mms it never works. I tell the phone to redownload it and it fails, every time. Its only certain people too. Some people can send me an MMS perfectly, no issue. Others every single MMS fails saying it couldn't be downloaded, then retrying causes it to be corrupted. So yeah, Motorola Razr 2, the v8. Its really annoying. I put my sim back into my old k800i and it instantly worked. I'm stuck with this phone now for another 9 months and I really hate it when things don't work as they should. I'd gladly swap it for one of those thin SE models. Bah. Its just so silly. If it was a size issue why did mine work? Its always the same people too. I've had an MMS from a SE ok, but then not another SE. I've had it fail from a n95 too. Has to be a reason why it always fails from certain people. I guess the only way out my contract is to pay it off?

Just curious but if it's the same people who can never seem to MMS you, are they all on the same network as each other?

[petemc]

Why not simply buy another phone rather than buying out your contract? It will probably work out about the same in the end if you pick up a phone on ebay.

Im sure there is an "I told you so" in there somewhere too :p

I'm expecting Jen to have a huge "I told you so" animation for me :D I was looking at the 880i but its £150 at least. I guess I could go back to my old k800i, but I do like the Razr, despite the appalling battery life (less than a day sometimes).

Just curious but if it's the same people who can never seem to MMS you, are they all on the same network as each other?

Hmm good point. Not sure what they're on. I haven't heard from one guy cos it was a while ago and a random mms. But then I don't think thats the issue because if I put the sim in another phone it works perfectly. Its gotta be the Razr.

[A Place of Light]

Hmm good point. Not sure what they're on. I haven't heard from one guy cos it was a while ago and a random mms. But then I don't think thats the issue because if I put the sim in another phone it works perfectly. Its gotta be the Razr.

Some of them are extremely unreliable.
Check for a "Motorola" marking somewhere on the case. If you find it, then I'm afraid you've bought one of the duff ones.

[Stan_Lite]

Its gotta be the Razr.

It is.

I had a SLVR for a while and had exactly the same issue. I never did get to the bottom of it but, like you, I could receive MMS from some but not others. Sorry mate but your phone's sh*te :p
I ditched mine a long time ago in favour of the K800i and have been a happy camper ever since.

[A Place of Light]

It is.

I had a SLVR for a while and had exactly the same issue. I never did get to the bottom of it but, like you, I could receive MMS from some but not others. Sorry mate but your phone's sh*te :p
I ditched mine a long time ago in favour of the K800i and have been a happy camper ever since.

IMO, the SLVR is even worse.

[petemc]

It is.

I had a SLVR for a while and had exactly the same issue. I never did get to the bottom of it but, like you, I could receive MMS from some but not others. Sorry mate but your phone's sh*te :p
I ditched mine a long time ago in favour of the K800i and have been a happy camper ever since.

Ah well. Never really used the MMS feature before but now I miss it. What are the odds that the only person to mms me is one of the ones who can't? The Razr2 has a whole new OS based on Linux. Figured it would be better. Guess not.

[Stan_Lite]

IMO, the SLVR is even worse.

Mine was bloody awful.

I couldn't talk for more than 2 minutes without it dying on me - I had to reboot it 2 or 3 times before I could get it to work again. I persevered with it for about 3 weeks and said "F**k it" and got the K800i.

[petemc]

Its got a very nice look to it, I love that. Technically its a great phone *if* I don't use it :D I can spend the day txting, make a few calls and it dies. I'm sorry SE, please take me back :)

[A Place of Light]

Mine was bloody awful.

I couldn't talk for more than 2 minutes without it dying on me - I had to reboot it 2 or 3 times before I could get it to work again. I persevered with it for about 3 weeks and said "F**k it" and got the K800i.

I've had dozens of handsets from all of the major manufacturers, and the SLVR was the most user-unfriendly set I've tried in the last ten years by a long way.

[Haly]

I'm expecting Jen to have a huge "I told you so" animation for me :D I was looking at the 880i but its £150 at least. I guess I could go back to my old k800i, but I do like the Razr, despite the appalling battery life (less than a day sometimes).


It's Christmas, I can't do that.........I'll wait till tomorrow :p

[A Place of Light]

I was looking at the 880i but its £150 at least..

The "W" 880i?

[Dr. Z]

W880i at £150 would still be less than buying out 9 months of contract @ £30/month though...

[Blackstar]

So basically i was right, it is just rubbish.

[Dr. Z]

We all tried to talk him out of it for ages though (by some of us that have had previous incarnations of the same phone with equally disasterous results!) so a certain level of "I told you so" is acceptable :p

[A Place of Light]

W880i at £150 would still be less than buying out 9 months of contract @ £30/month though...

I'm no fan of the w880i either. It is better than the Motorola, but then that's no great achievement is it? ;)

The keypad of the 880 is a pain if you text a lot, the camera isn't very good (worse when you consider its an SE phone) the OS has a few quirky features of its own and the PC suite won't let you backup your text messages.

[Dr. Z]

I only used that as an example because it was used earlier in the thread :) I wouldnt buy one unless I specifically wanted a phone that thin.

[A Place of Light]

I only used that as an example because it was used earlier in the thread :) I wouldnt buy one unless I specifically wanted a phone that thin.

I've got one and am less than impressed.
Glad I took it on a 12, rather than 18, month contract to be honest.

[petemc]

It's Christmas, I can't do that.........I'll wait till tomorrow :p

I'll be on the edge of my seat :p

W880i at £150 would still be less than buying out 9 months of contract @ £30/month though...

£35/month but yeah. If I could just happen to find £150 lying around.

So basically i was right, it is just rubbish.

Yes, quite :p

We all tried to talk him out of it for ages though (by some of us that have had previous incarnations of the same phone with equally disasterous results!) so a certain level of "I told you so" is acceptable :p

Yeah yeah :p You all did try and talk me out of it. However, at the time I never really used MMS and the battery life was "ok" till I actually used it :)

I'm no fan of the w880i either. It is better than the Motorola, but then that's no great achievement is it? ;)

The keypad of the 880 is a pain if you text a lot, the camera isn't very good (worse when you consider its an SE phone) the OS has a few quirky features of its own and the PC suite won't let you backup your text messages.

Yeah I heard its not good for txting, which is annoying. But its thin. I'm bored of fat phones. Camera isn't an issue for me :) The size of the Razr's keypad makes it quite nice for txting.

[A Place of Light]

Yeah yeah :p You all did try and talk me out of it. However, at the time I never really used MMS and the battery life was "ok" till I actually used it :)
It could be worse, you could've bought an iPhone in which case MMS wouldn't be an issue to you at all. He He

Yeah I heard its not good for txting, which is annoying. But its thin. I'm bored of fat phones. Camera isn't an issue for me :) The size of the Razr's keypad makes it quite nice for txting.

It's the fact that the 880i's keys are so narrow that can actually make it painful to send a lot of texts. After a while it just starts to dig into your thumb. I was surprised by this one as I expected more from an SE phone. As I stated earlier in the thread the backup software is crap, the features limited, the camera is average (no surprise on a W phone though) and mine has just come back from the workshop after it decided to switch itself off at its own discretion.

[Dymetrie]

Gonna have to disagree with you there Apol.

Have had my w880i since July and haven't had any problems with it. I text a fair amount and find the keypad comfortable, the camera is better than I expected and other than in low light/indoors takes some pretty good pictures (as can be seen from my Prague thread, every photo taken whilst there was with my w880i), not had a problem with the backup software and have found it slightly better than activsync (which I use with my M600) for contacts and the music transferring programme worked a treat :)

I love the w880i and three of my friends have upgraded to it since I got mine, such a shame that you've not had a similar experience.

[A Place of Light]

Gonna have to disagree with you there Apol.

Have had my w880i since July and haven't had any problems with it. I text a fair amount and find the keypad comfortable, the camera is better than I expected and other than in low light/indoors takes some pretty good pictures (as can be seen from my Prague thread, every photo taken whilst there was with my w880i), not had a problem with the backup software and have found it slightly better than activsync (which I use with my M600) for contacts and the music transferring programme worked a treat :)

I love the w880i and three of my friends have upgraded to it since I got mine, such a shame that you've not had a similar experience.

Well, if you have resembling sausage fingers you'll never find it an easy phone to use. For example, while mine was away being repaired I had to revert to my old Nokia 6111 which was infinitely superior to text with. Not that the 6111 is a great phone mind you, but they keypad puts that of the 880i to shame. RE the camera, don't get me wrong in that for what it is it's quite good. It's only a 2mp with software zoom and for that it can be commended for its results, it's just that the game has moved on and given SE's reputation for phone cams I expected more. As for the backup software, how did you find it better than active sync? As an app I found it to be a more polished program that's for sure, but in terms of options it's poor. Activesync allows me to backup everything on the device, whereas options are limited with the SE software.
How did you backup your texts as I couldn't find the option?

[Dymetrie]

As for the backup software, how did you find it better than active sync? As an app I found it to be a more polished program that's for sure, but in terms of options it's poor. Activesync allows me to backup everything on the device, whereas options are limited with the SE software.
How did you backup your texts as I couldn't find the option?

Activesync has never given me the option to review what it backs up, so if you wipe all your contacts and then plug your phone in then it'll sync your outlook contact list with your phone contact list and delete them. Which I thought was brilliant :p The SE software doesn't have this problem as you can set it to keep newer contacts and it won't delete missing ones. Not sure if that was fixed in the latest version of Activesync as I've not plugged my M600 in since the rebuild.

Backup texts? Never mentioned anything about that, have never been able to back them up, not with activesync and not with the SE software.

[A Place of Light]

Activesync has never given me the option to review what it backs up, so if you wipe all your contacts and then plug your phone in then it'll sync your outlook contact list with your phone contact list and delete them. Which I thought was brilliant :p The SE software doesn't have this problem as you can set it to keep newer contacts and it won't delete missing ones. Not sure if that was fixed in the latest version of Activesync as I've not plugged my M600 in since the rebuild.

Backup texts? Never mentioned anything about that, have never been able to back them up, not with activesync and not with the SE software.

Activesync should give the a list of checkboxes to tick or leave blank as desired to determine what is and is not copied. Perhaps you have an older version of the software. Incidentally BOTH of these phones have better backup software than Samsung which are (or at least used to be) incredibly flaky in their connectivity.

[Feek]

I do have sausage fingers and no problems texting or using the W880i *shrug*

[Dymetrie]

Activesync should give the a list of checkboxes to tick or leave blank as desired to determine what is and is not copied. Perhaps you have an older version of the software.

No I meant as in which is to be the primary source. With Activesync you can set either the device or the PC to be the primary source and the one to be taken as gospel. Hence the problem with accidentally deleting something and it being synced as correct before you can fix it...

The SE software will take the newer version of the contact as the right one.

And that's with 4.1 and whatever version it is on Vista.

[A Place of Light]

I do have sausage fingers and no problems texting or using the W880i *shrug*

/suddenly has a very strange image of Feek in his mind.
:)

[karbon]

not maybe worth phoning the network?

[A Place of Light]

No I meant as in which is to be the primary source. With Activesync you can set either the device or the PC to be the primary source and the one to be taken as gospel. Hence the problem with accidentally deleting something and it being synced as correct before you can fix it...

The SE software will take the newer version of the contact as the right one.

And that's with 4.1 and whatever version it is on Vista.

I think we can agree that Msoft has work to do on activesync, that's for sure, lol.
What disappointed me with the SE software was that even the old Nokia PC suite allowed me to backup texts, whereas the w880 did not.
A strange omission IMHO.

[petemc]

not maybe worth phoning the network?

About the MMS issue? Nah. Works fine on my k800i with the same sim. Definitely the phone.

[karbon]

and did the phone not come with the contract? so if it's gubbed they'll fix it or replace it no?

[petemc]

The phone did come with the contract yeah, an upgrade. How do you prove its broke and not just a Motorola feature?

[karbon]

phone them, you've already determined that the phone isn't working, it's up to them to fix it or replace it.

[Dymetrie]

phone them, you've already determined that the phone isn't working, it's up to them to fix it or replace it.

They'll not replace it for a motorolla feature...