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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7264622.stm
So one of the best browsers looks like its going to get better. They seem to be pushing the offline functionallity a lot in the next big update along with search functionallity. Having used the web since the days of 14.4Kbps dial up I can'y say I have ever used the offline features of a browser
Either that or it's about to disappear up it's own arse with a bunch of overcomplicated features which nobody wants as seems to happen to most software once it gets popular.
leowyatt
27-02-2008, 10:40
I've been using the 3 beta for some time and it's great :) Firefox 2 is very very unstable for some reason on my machine at work so I use 3.
Stan_Lite
27-02-2008, 11:29
I've been using the 3 beta for some time and it's great :) Firefox 2 is very very unstable for some reason on my machine at work so I use 3.
Oddly enough, I found the opposite. Never had even a hint of a problem with Firefox 2 on my machine but I ended up uninstalling the Firefox 3 beta as it kept crashing on me.
I've looked at FF3 casually (it's in the Ubuntu Hardy alphas and I've put it on one of my Windows boxen alongside FF2), and certainly haven't found it a bad experience, and I like a couple of the features.
I do share kaiowas' concern, though I cant quite put my finger on why. The proof will be in the pudding, I'll certainly switch at least most of my boxes over when it goes gold. If I dont like it, I'll switch back, easy!
leowyatt
27-02-2008, 11:38
Stan I'm on beta 3 now and had no sniff of problems :( I'll find out when I flatten this laptop next month if there are still problems with FF2.
Stan_Lite
27-02-2008, 12:10
Stan I'm on beta 3 now and had no sniff of problems :( I'll find out when I flatten this laptop next month if there are still problems with FF2.
Ahh. I think it was beta 2 I tried, I'll give beta 3 a try when I get home.
I put Firefox 3 beta 2 on my new laptop from the start (didn't even bother installing FF2). Its been fine for me with no crashes (since updated to beta 3). There's some nice touches like not interrupting browsing to ask if you want it to remember a password. I'm not entirely sure about the new URL bar yet though - for example if I type in 'boat', it comes up with the search page here first, with the homepage third on the list. It needs some sort of ranking so that if I click on the homepage it remembers that's more important to me than the search page.
MarcLister
27-02-2008, 13:15
Having used the web since the days of 14.4Kbps dial up I can'y say I have ever used the offline features of a browserSame. I have never understood what it was for. :o
Either that or it's about to disappear up it's own arse with a bunch of overcomplicated features which nobody wants as seems to happen to most software once it gets popular.I reckon this might be the case. I used FF when it was a 0.x beta and it was brilliant back then. And with each release it has gradually gotten worse and I dumped FF2 for Opera. If Mozilla cock FF3 up, I might never return. :D
opera ftw.You knows it. :D
opera ftw.
you're just wrong. Opera is horrible.
I've been using beta 3 for a few weeks and I love it. I don't use the new bookmarking stuff, but I'm taking advantage of the vastly improved stability and memory allocation in OSX. It's a lot more stable than beta 2 was
A couple of people have said to me that the memory problem looks like it'll be much better in 3 (though it's still difficult to say for sure - there's bound to be some debug stuff still compiled into the betas).
I'm hopeful, but I think I'll believe it when I see it. I love Firefox, but it's memory leaks are quite bad.
Stan_Lite
27-02-2008, 16:14
A couple of people have said to me that the memory problem looks like it'll be much better in 3 (though it's still difficult to say for sure - there's bound to be some debug stuff still compiled into the betas).
I'm hopeful, but I think I'll believe it when I see it. I love Firefox, but it's memory leaks are quite bad.
Beta 2 was pretty much the same as 2 as far as memory was concerned, I don't know if it's any better in beta 3 or whether the final release will be better - we live in hope.
As an OSX user the new FF3 beta something is great. They've finally designed it with OSX in mind. All the little things like text boxes, check boxes, gadgets n things all look great. I think the font is better too. As your average mac fanboy, I do like it when people take their time with user interface design and make their apps look good. I can't say I've noticed anything else thats worth mentioning but when you're swimming in a field of well designed interfaces, FF2 does stand out.
The whole UI has been much better designed to fit into whatever OS you're putting it on. Likewise, FF3 will fit in much better with whatever Gnome/KDE theme you're using on *nix.
LeperousDust
27-02-2008, 20:47
you're just wrong. Opera is horrible.
I've been using beta 3 for a few weeks and I love it. I don't use the new bookmarking stuff, but I'm taking advantage of the vastly improved stability and memory allocation in OSX. It's a lot more stable than beta 2 was
War!
If you're worried about stability/memory issues and not the new stuff, Opera IS for you! It's always been much much more stable than FF, but always lacked the extension (which ironically can make FF even more unstable). Opera is a wonderful OS independant browser, and now they've got some plugin gubbins sorted out (and other things i just don't get :) ) working better with the latest few betas of the upcomming 9.5 it's set to get better since they're also working on making sure the product is as good as it should be on all OS'
Browser wars, the new OS wars.
Ahhh fantastic - finally something that will eat the other half of my RAM aswell! :D
MarcLister
27-02-2008, 21:20
Browser wars, the new OS wars.Which Opera has already won. :cool:
Opera lost when they claimed they were the most standards-compilant but had glaring errors displaying sites that other browsers (and I don't mean just IE) rendered fine. Sure, they've fixed that since, but I don't care. :p ;D
MarcLister
27-02-2008, 21:58
Meh lost the battle and won the war. :p
Which version was this btw? :D
War!
If you're worried about stability/memory issues and not the new stuff, Opera IS for you! It's always been much much more stable than FF, but always lacked the extension (which ironically can make FF even more unstable). Opera is a wonderful OS independant browser, and now they've got some plugin gubbins sorted out (and other things i just don't get :) ) working better with the latest few betas of the upcomming 9.5 it's set to get better since they're also working on making sure the product is as good as it should be on all OS'
yuck. I need my firebug! If they make that for Opera, I'll think about it!
LeperousDust
28-02-2008, 02:03
Agreed probably with FF for dev work (for now, on the road map O10 is going to have a LOT of work done on the dev side), but for general website viewing, ie. all the other times you're not deving you should be using Opera. Hell you probably have it installed anyways to check what your making works (i hope so!). C'mon, being the minority rocks! ;D
nah, I hate opera users so much that I don't test to spite them :p I have it installed on my Windows partition, but only for testing. I just prefer the whole Firefox way of doing things, and the fact that it seems to integrate so much better with OSX in version 3 makes it pretty much unbeatable on my platform of choice.
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