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Matblack
23-05-2008, 22:17
I seem to have broken myself :(
During the course of this afternoon my elbow has gone from normal to having a lump the size of a golf ball and is extremely painful to move. Went to the docs on the way home and he's stuck me on 500mg of antibios, I'm sat her in agony waiting for them kick in :confused:. I'm amazed something that came on so quick can hurt so much, if it doesn't sort itself I may have to go to casualty later and see if they can do something about draining it :shocked:
Not a particularly useful post but hey ho
MB
Matblack
23-05-2008, 22:20
Absolutely nothing, thats the odd thing, it just started after lunch feeling a bit sore and just got worse from there, I noticed it was a bit swollen and by the end of the day I HAD to go to the doctors, it hurt that much :(
MB
leowyatt
23-05-2008, 22:22
Poor MB :( Is nurse Heather performing her duties? :D
Piggymon
23-05-2008, 22:23
Awww noo ! :/ Did it come up as quick as the lump on my head at hastings ? ;D
Hope you feel better soon ! :)
Ah, the ol' thwacking injury ;)
500mg is a fair whack. I had a chest infection & random bug at uni and they had me on 1400mg of the stuff a day :eek: I was on another planet.
Matblack
23-05-2008, 22:30
Aitch has been great getting me everything I need but I'm horrible when I don't feel well and I suggest she watch some of the things shes recorded on V+.
The lump itself came up quite fast, there is a big void at the back of the elbow to allow it to move so theres a lot of space that can fill with fluid :( I can't really bend it and even a light touch is agony
MB
Matblack
23-05-2008, 22:31
Ah, the ol' thwacking injury ;)
500mg is a fair whack. I had a chest infection & random bug at uni and they had me on 1400mg of the stuff a day :eek: I was on another planet.
Thats 500mg 4 times a day
MB
ok, a bit more nasty then I initially gave credit for
Could it have been brought on by the archery? I know you've not done it loads but it must put a fair strain on the elbows.
Matblack
23-05-2008, 22:40
Could it have been brought on by the archery? I know you've not done it loads but it must put a fair strain on the elbows.
Nah, its definitely an infected bursa which is caused by infection rather than damage, which is a good thing because its less likely to reoccur.
MB
Stan_Lite
23-05-2008, 22:41
Can't offer much in the way of help but I hope your large swelling goes away soon (FNAR).
*Manhugs*
I suppose poking it with a sterilised needle is a bad idea?
Ouch MB hopefully the antibiotics cure the issue, as i ended up in hospital when i had something similar happen to my elbow while i was still down your way. Somehow infected the fluid sack or bursa in my elbow and to this day still don't have a clue how. It swelled up over a few days and was on fire plus absolute agony by time i ended up in hospital with my arm from my elbow to almost my shoulder red and fighting off the infection.
Still at least being in MSRA central and all the botched IV's at the hospital took my minds of things lol
SCM
Stan_Lite
23-05-2008, 22:47
I suppose poking it with a sterilised needle is a bad idea?
I would hazard a guess that most doctors would consider it to be inadvisable. Could also be quite messy :D
I had something very similar once. Just completely random. Elbow ballooned up and I was really ill for a few days on meds before it went down. Doc claimed it was due to resting my elbows on my desk, which I've always done and done since without issue.
I suppose poking it with a sterilised needle is a bad idea?
Put it this way Feek seems i did have the same issue as MB has and if they operated it was going to be an open wound for 3 months while it healed, so no a sterlised needle is not a good idea lol
Matblack
23-05-2008, 22:52
I suppose poking it with a sterilised needle is a bad idea?
Very! Making an intervention straight into the bursa at right angles stands a damn good chance of causing a drain point which won't heal due to the pressure. If you really want to see the result of doing it then look up infected elbow on youtube, thats what I have.:puke:
Ouch MB hopefully the antibiotics cure the issue, as i ended up in hospital when i had something similar happen to my elbow while i was still down your way. Somehow infected the fluid sack or bursa in my elbow and to this day still don't have a clue how. It swelled up over a few days and was on fire plus absolute agony by time i ended up in hospital with my arm from my elbow to almost my shoulder red and fighting off the infection.
Still at least being in MSRA central and all the botched IV's at the hospital took my minds of things lol
SCM
I had something very similar once. Just completely random. Elbow ballooned up and I was really ill for a few days on meds before it went down. Doc claimed it was due to resting my elbows on my desk, which I've always done and done since without issue.
What you guys had sounds exactly like this, did you have any antibios before you went to the hospital SCM? My doc did not do a drain and I'm beginning to wish he had :(
MB
Ouch. At least I know why I'm in the state I am. Not that it helps much of course.
What you guys had sounds exactly like this, did you have any antibios before you went to the hospital SCM? My doc did not do a drain and I'm beginning to wish he had :(MB
Yeah i did MB and like yourself pretty strong dosage but at that time we were recovering from the house fire we had and were just back in the house moving in again. So think my immune system was on strike with all the stress and ended up in hospital on 3 drips due to it spreading so fast. I was pretty overweight then and with high blood sugar meaning borderline type 2 diabetes that didn't help me out in fighting it off.
They wont drain it unless they have to and as i said if they had operated i would have been laid up for 3 months with the wound open while it healed. It is a serious issue but hopefully you will do better than me on the antibiotics.
SCM
Matblack
23-05-2008, 22:59
Yeah i did MB and like yourself pretty strong dosage but at that time we were recovering from the house fire we had and were just back in the house moving in again. So think my immune system was on strike with all the stress and ended up in hospital on 3 drips due to it spreading so fast. I was pretty overweight then and with high blood sugar meaning borderline type 2 diabetes that didn't help me out in fighting it off.
They wont drain it unless they have to and as i said if they had operated i would have been laid up for 3 months with the wound open while it healed. It is a serious issue but hopefully you will do better than me on the antibiotics.
SCM
****! I was in the doctors earlier in the day because I had been called back for a second test for, guess what!!!!!!
MB
Not good MB :( but hopefully the antibiotics work better on you than they did on me, as it took a few days for me to see a doctor as i didn't have the sudden appearance as you seem to have had. From what you said it just suddenly came on during the day, i just had a very sore elbow until i couldn't take the pain anymore and ended up at doctors. Same issue but different appearance for us both so fingers crossed it clears for you unlike for me :)
SCM
OK, word of advice MB - Don't prick it with a needle.
Sounds nasty, and I'm sure that video doesn't do it justice.
*gentle, delicate hugs*
Davey_Pitch
24-05-2008, 03:06
I damaged a bursa sack a few years ago due to throwing myself around on wooden floors playing 5-a-side. The swelling was about golf ball surprise but surprisingly painless. I think the quack said I burst a sack, which must just allow fluid to leak out rather than be truly painful, considering how bad yours sounds (though it did hurt to touch for a few days).
Hope it gets better soon MB :)
Awwwwwwww MB :( That sounds super sucky :(
*gentle hugs*
Hope you get better soon big bear
*wubs*
Sounds nasty :( Hope it's sorted out soon matey. :)
A bit of an update - Matt took himself over to A&E early this morning as the swelling and pain were getting worse. The hospital also said he had a temperature and they have put him on an antibiotic drip. Going to go over and see him now. :'(
Oh no :( Hope he is better *hugs* to the pair of you
Eeeek :(
Get well soon Big Grumpy Bear! :)
:( Hope he feels better very soon *hugs to you both*
Hope he feels better soon. He hasn't been eating after midnight has he? Been splashed on his elbow? There'll be mini-Matt's all over the shop before we know it ;)
Hope he is ok H, as sounds like what i had exactly now :( Fingers crossed the drip works for him first time off and he doesn't need a combo of them like i did.
SCM
ooo, nasty - Hope it clears up sooner rather than later.
Justsomebloke
24-05-2008, 14:21
Aitch has been great getting me everything I need but I'm horrible when I don't feel well and I suggest she watch some of the things shes recorded on V+.
MB
Is this how normal people tell others to **** off then ;D
Any way, Cut to the chase, Can you still play on the XBox :huh:
Suxs to be you, Kthksbye ;D
Get well soon mate :)
Any way, Cut to the chase, Can you still play on the XBox :huh:
If it is anything like the pain i had, temperature and swelling of the elbow don't think MB will be near an xbox for a while :(
Ouchie MB :( Get well soon manhugs from me!
Justsomebloke
24-05-2008, 15:12
If it is anything like the pain i had, temperature and swelling of the elbow don't think MB will be near an xbox for a while :(
Wanders of singing MASH theme tune :evil:
Matblack
24-05-2008, 19:15
I'm back
I've had three lots of two different antibiotics intravenously and the doc has sent me home with explicit instructions to come back if the coloration spreads (it was halfway down my forearm) I have Fluclox and Penicillin in max safe doses which he thinks should clear it by the end of next week. Halfway through today I was tucked up in a hospital bed shaking with a very high temp. God bless intravenous paracetamol!
Thanks for all your messages, my advice is, if it really hurts go to A&E don't put a brave face on it go.
MB
Glad to see you're back home again :)
*hugs* That sounds awful. Hope you feel better soon.
Glad you're home!
Sheesh, anything to get out of seeing us.....;)
I'm back
I've had three lots of two different antibiotics intravenously and the doc has sent me home with explicit instructions to come back if the coloration spreads (it was halfway down my forearm) I have Fluclox and Penicillin in max safe doses which he thinks should clear it by the end of next week. Halfway through today I was tucked up in a hospital bed shaking with a very high temp. God bless intravenous paracetamol!
Thanks for all your messages, my advice is, if it really hurts go to A&E don't put a brave face on it go.
MB
Glad your home MB and you only need 2 different antibiotics to nuke it :)
Word of advice though from my own experience don't even think about work for a week until the pills have done the job. Sitting at a desk/working with this kind of issue makes you feel worse especially pain and fever wise. Thats if they haven't advised you this way already but if they haven't stay off work until it clears up then take it easy when you do go back.
It took 2 weeks for me to get back to work, as went back after getting out of hospital after a week there and i was home by midmorning the first day back. It isn't worth making it worse by rushing back believe me.
SCM
Matblack
25-05-2008, 10:31
It's spreading, I think I'll have to go back in this afternoon :(
MB
Matblack
25-05-2008, 10:49
Here are links to pics.
Its not too gross but you can see the ring the doctor drew yesterday and said 'if it goes outside that ring you'd better come back ASAP' :/
Right arm, normal
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4314/goodarmdf6.jpg
Left arm, hurty
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/2807/badarmgj1.jpg
'scuse flabby arms
:(
MB
SidewinderINC
25-05-2008, 10:54
:( That's horrible MB - I really hope it clears up soon and doesn't cause any long lasting problems.
Piggymon
25-05-2008, 11:10
Ouch ! Looks really painful :(
Get your butt back to hospital!!
Matblack
25-05-2008, 11:23
I'll phone the doctor at 12 as thats when he comes on shift and he said he would see me rather than make me wait, hes a the Senior A&E and Clinical Decisions Doc so he'll be able to refer me if need be, if I go now I'll be in the A&E queue
MB
Hope they can draw a line under it so you can get better dude :)
Hope they can draw a line under it so you can get better dude :)
Looks like they've already tried that ;) But damn that don't look good :( Hopefully its one of those things that gets a little worse before getting better. Mine lasted a few days to a week. So sore to touch and the infection thing felt like flu.
Kell_ee001
25-05-2008, 11:57
*hugs* :(
Justsomebloke
25-05-2008, 12:29
Blimey it's not funny anymore :(
Hope it improves soon Dude.
Lynnie_pitch nee Leigh
25-05-2008, 16:36
:( that sucks :( hope it gets sorted soon xx
That looks/sounds really nasty. Didn't realise you'd gone into A&E until Dee told me last night. Hope you're on the road to recovery soon. Poor thing :(
Those pictures bring back bad memories for me there i recognise that pattern of infection :( so i am glad MB is back in hospital for treatment :)
Hopefully he is all settled in hospital now, back on the drips as they should work after a few days from my own experience with the exact same issue. Get well soon MB and avoid the evil nurses is all i can say.
SCM
Mrs Slater
25-05-2008, 18:32
That arm looks nasty. Hope the doctors at the hospital get the infection under control soon and you start feeling better.
Matblack
25-05-2008, 19:15
well I'm posting from my sick bed, registrar says it could be two or three days but I'm off nil by mouth now That they've decided not to slice and dice :)Lots more antibiotics to come and hopefully we'll knock it on the head If people are interested I'll try and keep you updatedMB
*hugs* Definitely keep us updated! Been worried about you.
Nil by mouth? Never hit me with that evil while i was there with same thing odd. Glad they aren't dicing and slicing and are nuking it with drips.
Get well soon mate and even once it clears you might find your elbow still very sore for a while after so take it easy with it. Mine is torture now with gym work going on and i hadn't realised how weak that had left my elbow in comparison to my fit one.
SCM
You being kept in now Matt? If so I would get your laptop loaded up with films / stuff to stop you going mad :)
Piggymon
25-05-2008, 19:51
Hope you get better soon King Matt ! :)
Keep us updated.
Matblack
25-05-2008, 19:54
Yeah they've admitted me, I have my phone with mp3S and Gprs access and a couple me books so I can keep myself occupied :)MB
I'm sure you're being the model patient ;)
Get fixed asap! The tigers are growing! ;)
Stan_Lite
25-05-2008, 20:11
Hope it all gets better soon big dude - take care :)
Oh nasty MB - I hope you become unnastyfied soon :)
Take care Mr MB! You need both arms fully functional for the exceptional MB hugs :)
goldilocks
25-05-2008, 20:41
get well soon MB - :)
my advice is, if it really hurts go to A&E don't put a brave face on it go.
MB
absolutely - there is no better advice than that in most medical situations, brave faces will hide even the worst problems, be honest with yourself and get things sorted as soon as possible!!
Davey_Pitch
25-05-2008, 22:41
Get well soon MB :)
Knipples
26-05-2008, 09:46
Crap! I thought id posted in this thread - apologies!
Get well soon MB, at least you're in the right place and they can keep a closer eye on you.
Hope it stops hurting soon!!
Hope they knock it on the head asap!!!
I hope you have a miraculously quick recovery!
Ouch! Nasty! Get well soon.
SidewinderINC
26-05-2008, 19:44
Are you fixed yet? :D
I hope he's at least fixed by the weekend for the choo choo's, was/am really looking forward to meeting him :)
You hear that, you'd better be fixed! :p
Update on MB as he has limited access to the forums and can't post at the moment:
Are you fixed yet? :D
Nope, still broke :angry:
Been at the hospital this afternoon to see him. His arm is still red and swollen over quite a large area. It spread a bit further last night and he was feeling quite rough so they dosed him up with paracetamol and upped his antibiotic doses. He is feeling better today but they are waiting for it to show signs of improvement before they will switch him back to tablets and send him home.
He has had a couple of offers of visits but he says hopefully he will be home in a day or so and doesn't want people to travel all the way over to there, he would also discourage anyone who comes into contact with children, elderly, sick etc. due to the risk of MRSA etc.
I just want my MB well and home :'(
Piggymon
27-05-2008, 20:56
Aww poor MB :(
Poor fella :(
Fingers crossed he's going to turn the corner really soon
He will be home soon Aitch and the doctors there that deal with this kind of things are very good from my own experience with the same thing a few years back. I went through the same as MB is right now and took me 5 or so days to get through it and be allowed home.
He will be home soon :)
SCM
Eep! Didn't realise this had got so bad so quickly!
Sounds like you are in a similar amount of pain to when my leg was bad. The pain was just unreal and I too had intravenous antibiotics and lines drawn on me.
Thankfully, the antibiotics really do work fast and you will be right in no time! :)
Blackstar
27-05-2008, 21:54
Hope you get better soon MB :( didn't realise how bad you had gotten. Aitch hope you are ok too must be quiet worrying.
Bugger. Hope all is well soon. Sounds awful as well as frustrating.
Knipples
27-05-2008, 22:57
Really hoping your all better soon.
And a hug for you Aitch, its not nice watching someone you care about suffer.
Thinking about you two a lot at the mo. Get well soon Matt.
Sh!t dude, I checked out of this one thinking meh he's got a boil on his elbow. Hope it doesn't get any worse :shocked:
H can you get them to check his blood sugar. If his temperature is up it might be because of that as well and it'll just feed the infection. Since he's been in for diabetes tests.
leowyatt
28-05-2008, 13:01
Any news today Aitch?
Justsomebloke
28-05-2008, 13:19
Bumpity Bump bump bump.
What Occurs with the Big fella :confused: update wise obviously.
Hope you are improving matey :)
Thank you for everyone's thoughts and concerns and especially to SCM for the reassurances based on his own experience. The redness and swelling was finally starting to recede this morning. Only communicated by text so far today so I'll update more later after my visit the hospital on my way home.
Going by his status messages on facebook, I think he wants to go home :(
Give him hugs from me. Hope you are ok too Aitch.
It's no problem Aitch i know how worrying this can be if you have to watch and suffer watching.
hugs Aitch he will be home soon
SCM
Hope he's getting better :)
Back from hospital and I passed on lots of (gentle) hugs - the redness and swelling have gone down although it is still a largish area. The doc will have another look on his rounds tomorrow and will consider whether he can come home tomorrow or not - fingers crossed although I am cautious of a repeat of the Saturday night if he is not ready to switch back to an oral dose :confused:
H can you get them to check his blood sugar. If his temperature is up it might be because of that as well and it'll just feed the infection. Since he's been in for diabetes tests.
Thanks Prophylactic J, I didn't spot this before I went to visit, but he has mentioned this to all of the doctors there so they are aware of it and hopefully treating him accordingly.
Hope he can come home tomorrow :)
Must be a truly horrible situation to be in to feel so powerless :( *hugs*
Knipples
28-05-2008, 21:31
Awww I hope hes back home where he belongs before long!
If you read this Matt, get better soon!
Piggymon
28-05-2008, 21:33
Thanks for the update Aitch... hope you're doing ok :)
Come back home big grumpy bear !
Lynnie_pitch nee Leigh
28-05-2008, 21:48
Big hugs to you both, hope it's sorted soon xx
Come back home big grumpy bear !
;D He is definitely building up to full grumpy bear mood being cooped up in the hospital - a sure sign he is feeling better!
He/we have seen some interesting cases in the other patients and a few of the staff have been exceptional which has helped make his visit more 'bear'able (oops punned!). I'll let him write about it once he is back online. Meanwhile I have done lots of housework to fill my time over the weekend and made a good start at leaving work without doing extra hours for a change so it has had some positive influences!
Once the infection starts to shrink Aitch the worst is over and he can swap to the pills from the drips pretty much there and then. Once it has been set on the road to recovery it pretty much does slowly over time.
Only thing is the elbow will be in a bit of pain for a few weeks after at least, well similar pain to what he has now, after that it settles down to a dull ache now and then which clears in time. Just the muscles around the elbow will be pretty weak from this i found so he needs to be careful or he will know about it if he over does it too soon lol
SCM
Hope he can come home very soon!!!
Just waiting to hear what the doctor says this morning when they come round. From SCM's description it sounds like things are going in the right direction and from what the doctor said yesterday he will be out for the weekend. I will warn him to make sure he rests it though - luckily it is his left arm and he is righthanded which helps a bit.
Heheheheh :evil:
Oh wait, you didn't mean that :o
Matblack
29-05-2008, 19:32
I'm very sore but I am home now with lots of antibiotics to take, I'm not sure about Saturday at the moment, in a lot of ways I'd like to come but I'd also like to feel comfortable and thats not really going to happen for a few days so we'll have to see.
Hospital swung from nightmarish to bearable, I'll probably relate a few tales in time.
Thanks for all your posts and good wishes and thanks to Zirax for the card :)
MB
If you were in the open wards i would expect some horror stories MB, i was lucky when i was in they had me in a private room in the eye ward beside people who had serious leg ops in the open bit next door.
SCM
Glad to hear you're back home :)
Take it easy and hope you feel better very soon *hugs*
Kell_ee001
29-05-2008, 19:54
Glad you're home MB!
Matblack
29-05-2008, 19:56
If you were in the open wards i would expect some horror stories MB, i was lucky when i was in they had me in a private room in the eye ward beside people who had serious leg ops in the open bit next door.
SCM
The private room on my ward was taken, it had a little old lady in it, she wanders around and screams a lot, it was only yesterday I found out she has MRSA :/
MB
Piggymon
29-05-2008, 20:24
*toots trumpet* The king is home ! \o/
Glad to hear you're on the mend :)
leowyatt
29-05-2008, 20:33
Glad to hear you are home :)
Lynnie_pitch nee Leigh
29-05-2008, 20:53
YAY :D
Yay, you're home! Look after yourself MB :)
Take it easy so you can rock in the aisles next weekend dude :)
Glad you're back - here and home.
The private room on my ward was taken, it had a little old lady in it, she wanders around and screams a lot, it was only yesterday I found out she has MRSA :/
MB
Not good :(
I wasn't impressed when i got home from my stay and discovered the hospital was MSRA central myself, just glad i didn't need an op on it.
Glad you are home mate and take it easy with it :)
SCM
Oh good so they didn't cut it off! Glad you're home! :)
Great to have you back with us :)
Glad to hear you're back home :D
Matblack
30-05-2008, 09:31
Well I've got a couple of pics from Sunday here before it was at its worst taken on a camera phone, it gives you an idea of the redness and swelling. By Monday it was red from my armpit to my wrist and I only had a 1-3 inch gap down the top of my arm which wasn't infected!
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7014/image100ii0.jpg
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/1981/image109hm0.jpg
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1395/image110vf6.jpg
MB
Yikes at the pics :( *big hugs* Glad you're home
Ouch. Reminds me of when I used to get bitten by insects as a kid - whole arm or leg would swell up and glow like the surface of the sun. Glad you're back!
Glad your back home dude. Seriously crazy stuff. Arm decides it wants to be a balloon and you get a few days in hospital :(
Davey_Pitch
30-05-2008, 13:16
Good to see you're back home Matt, take it easy dude :)
Hurraaaaahhhh!!!! Youo'll be OK for next weekend won't you? *worries*
Justsomebloke
30-05-2008, 16:25
Welcome Home Mate.
Yowza! That looks painful Matt!
Boooooooo.
But YAY to being home :D
Big soft hugs to you and get well soon! xx
Stan_Lite
30-05-2008, 17:48
Pffffft. Big girl's blouse - I remember when I were a lad ....... etc.
Seriously though, that looks ouch :(
Hope it calms down a bit soon mate :) Take it easy.
Matblack
02-06-2008, 17:46
More broken and more permanently than I thought, I have managed to mistreat my body to such an extent that it has rebelled and I now also have diabetes, oh joy :/
Doctor has signed me off for a week and told me to sort my life out or die young, groovy.
MB
Oh ****. I'm really sorry to hear that Matt :( Is it one that can be controlled with your diet, or do you need insulin?
Aww crap :( *hugs* Really sorry to hear that :(
I hope it's the type that can be controlled with your diet rather than insulin.
Jesus! Thats ... damn dude. :( *manhugs* Is it the okish type of diabetes? Type 2 I think. Not that either is good but I was under the impression that one was less of a problem than the other.
:(
Hopefully type 2, but while not wishing to use scare tactics (though feel free to use them on me as I need a kick up the rear for similar reasons) neither is good and both have nasty consequences if not adequately controlled. It can affect even silly things like cutting your own toenails. :(
Matblack
02-06-2008, 18:08
They are both as bad as each other to be honest, the answer to most of the questions is I don't know, I hope I'll be able to control it with diet changes, if I lose some weight apparently it might go away again, so there is hope, but having it lays me open to a lot of risk of other things.
Its my own fault, I've abused this body for long enough and its punishing me for it, I deserve it really, brought it on myself. I have to see a special 'you've been a **** and you need to sort your life out' nurse who I presume will have a big stick to beat me with and tell me I'm an idiot. The doctor was less than sensitive about it, hopefully she'll be a bit nicer.
Oddly I have asked for testing for this recently and had a blood test in the morning before my arm blew up so I kinda knew it was going to happen but its still a bit of a shock.
MB
:( That's harsh of the doctor to be insensitive. I hope the nurse is much more sympathetic about it.
Insensitivity is never any help imo.
leowyatt
02-06-2008, 18:11
Sorry to hear that MB. Hopefully they will be easy changes to make and as you say help with some weight loss and next time you're checked it'll have disappeared.
Matblack
02-06-2008, 18:12
:(
Hopefully type 2, but while not wishing to use scare tactics (though feel free to use them on me as I need a kick up the rear for similar reasons) neither is good and both have nasty consequences if not adequately controlled. It can affect even silly things like cutting your own toenails. :(
Type doesn't matter to be honest, the toenail thing is a big of an exaggeration too, I have fine circulation although this can be an issue for untreated diabetics and its something they keep an eye on, if you have poor circulation the feet are one of the first things to be effected and you need to have good foot care, but I think I'll still be able to use nail clippers :D
Type 2 diabetes is mild diabetes
There is no such thing as mild or borderline diabetes. All diabetes is equally serious, and if not properly controlled can lead to serious complications.
http://www.diabetes.org.uk/Guide-to-diabetes/What_is_diabetes/Myths/
MB
Erk. That's not cool at all. Here's hoping a bit of a turn around can knock it on the head while there is still the chance it might go away.
It's good that it's not a done deal yet. You can still turn this around hopefully, fingers, toes, legs and eyes crossed for you fella xx
Yeah, true. My mum had bad circulation to start with so that won't have helped. As you say, if properly controlled (or better yet, sent packing, fingers crossed) then besides a swift change of diet it's very manageable.
I hope you can manage to control/lessen it, controlling it with diet isn't as hard as it seems, I grew up on a diabetic friendly diet *hugs*
Bugger mate :(
I guess it'll be a kick up the backside for a lifestyle change. Something I need as well...
Piggymon
02-06-2008, 19:05
Aww noo :/
Hopefully just a few diet changes will be needed :)
Blackstar
02-06-2008, 19:13
Oh dear :( i hope you catch it in time so that it might go away, i know that you will try your best so *crosses fingers*
I know a lot of insulin dependant diabetics and they all lead very normal lives, it is easy to control if you try and doesn't need to rule you. :)
If it is the diabetes nurse at the surgery in Maidstone she is fine MB from my experience with her unless she has changed since i was there that is.
Losing weight, changing your diet does work as it worked well for me. As even though they say there isnt a borderline type 2 situation i was hovering just below the sugar level they would associate type 2 with, so diet control ended up as my option. My way of losing weight however isnt one i would recommend as depression related weight loss isnt exactly fun lol
She will run through all the options with you and advise you food wise what to eat and what to limit yourself to eat as well. Some of the diabetic websites i looked at when i was diagnosed with it weren't the best for info, as eating healthier with more fruits can be as bad as eating crap. You have to avoid natural sugars as well as man made added sugars which some people forget to tell you.
You will have some evils associated with the diabetes though MB and the dreaded eye screening test is one of them i hated. Eye drops from hell that leave you sick as a dog for a day while you get over them from the eye exam :( Foot wise it is circulation and also diabetic ulcers they look for so they will keep an eye on all this for you.
If you want any more info MB just yell as still got some webpages associated with it and other info re sugar intake control. Theres a lot they tell you to eat other than fruit that also need to be watched carefully due to the release of sugar from these foods that they dont seem to tell you about.
SCM
Sorry to hear that Matt. If it's beatable I've no doubt you can pull it off though, so chin up and make it happen :)
Hope you can work through it and kick it into touch. It's not great news but at least it was diagnosed early enough that there are steps you can take to ward it off. Kick its ass! :)
You know you can do it mate :)
You've done it before and although it might be hard work, you can do it again. You're a strong hearted guy mate and I have no doubt you'll achieve what you need to. Just remember that we're here to lean on if the going gets tough :)
Sorry to hear that lad :(
With a few changes it should be manageable, go for it
SidewinderINC
02-06-2008, 20:39
That's not good mate :( Chin up! Things could be worse!
And as Desmo says, we're all here if things get tough.
Matblack
02-06-2008, 20:44
In other news I've been signed off work for a week \o/
MB
Piggymon
02-06-2008, 20:45
Play Wii Fit !! \o/
Matblack
02-06-2008, 20:48
Off to look at gyms tomorrow, I have a plan and it involves getting fit again, painful but now all the more important.
MB
I'll happily join you throwing a few shapes in the aisles on Sat :D
:eek:
Not what I expected to see but I can only echo what's been said above and hope you manage to control it.
Off to look at gyms tomorrow, I have a plan and it involves getting fit again, painful but now all the more important.
MB
David Lloyds in Maidstone isn't too bad MB, decent gym and pool stuff. I cant help on the other gyms in the area as that was only one that was looked at while i was down there and it was fine at that time.
Good luck with it and i know you can do it :)
SCM
SCM is spot on with the diet stuff. Try to avoid things that give you a 'sugar high' (fruit can be just as bad as sugary snacks for this). White bread is another one that can surprise people - wholegrain is better as it has a more gradual sugar release.
If its any consolation Matt, I am still alive and I've celebrated my tenth diabetic anniversary. It sometimes makes you grumpy when you haven't had any food and can have weird and funny effects. It is a serious condition, but you can easily live with it.
Dietwise, its better to avoid all fat, life wise, its better not to panic and think "OMG I have a life threatening condition" thats not to say it isn't serious, but don't sit there in a fit of depression.
Im probably teaching a granny to suck eggs, because if I know you, you have researched it til you know enough to become a leading expert in the field. ;) It will take time to sink in, but don't panic. You will have to make some sacrifices (I miss candyfloss and huge bars of galaxy) but there will come a time when you will have adjusted to it and it will become second nature.
For further reading on foods, research GI (Glycemic Index). Also, if you need to chat, you can find me lurking in various shady places these days.
Stan_Lite
03-06-2008, 04:31
That sucks dude :(
Get a week off work and spend it looking at gyms and researching diet and nutrition :p
Aww MB :( *soft hugs* The gym sounds super good though no!?! You'll love it :D
Fingers crossed for you mister - hopefully you'll be able to get on top of it and stomp it! :)
Stan_Lite
03-06-2008, 07:55
he's already said he's done this I think :)
Oops, I didn't make it clear enough :o
I meant that it's typical that he gets a week off work and has to spend it researching how to change his lifestyle instead of having some fun.
Davey_Pitch
03-06-2008, 09:26
I knew what you meant Stan :D
Matblack
03-06-2008, 10:39
If its any consolation Matt, I am still alive and I've celebrated my tenth diabetic anniversary. It sometimes makes you grumpy when you haven't had any food and can have weird and funny effects. It is a serious condition, but you can easily live with it.
Dietwise, its better to avoid all fat, life wise, its better not to panic and think "OMG I have a life threatening condition" thats not to say it isn't serious, but don't sit there in a fit of depression.
Im probably teaching a granny to suck eggs, because if I know you, you have researched it til you know enough to become a leading expert in the field. ;) It will take time to sink in, but don't panic. You will have to make some sacrifices (I miss candyfloss and huge bars of galaxy) but there will come a time when you will have adjusted to it and it will become second nature.
For further reading on foods, research GI (Glycemic Index). Also, if you need to chat, you can find me lurking in various shady places these days.
Thanks Mejinks :)
I have done quite a lot of research already and I'm starting to realise the implications and also how I can deal with it. I met the nurse today when I went back for more blood tests and she is really nice and helpful. I told her what I plan to do (eat low GI, go back to the gym and do short cardio and lifting again) and she agreed that it sounded good. She said she would prefer me to work on cardio fitness rather than muscle mass but in the end its whatever works for me :)
In some ways its a blessing rather than a curse, I'll have to stay on the straight and narrow this time or my health is at risk so I won't be able to let things slide.
MB
Good luck with it all :) I have no doubt you'll be able to kick its ass :D
Stan_Lite
03-06-2008, 12:17
I knew what you meant Stan :D
Good man :D
In some ways its a blessing rather than a curse, I'll have to stay on the straight and narrow this time or my health is at risk so I won't be able to let things slide.
MB
I sometimes wonder what it would take for me to change my ways and, as much as I'm glad to be relatively healthy (considering my lifestyle), in some ways I would welcome some sort of scare to jolt me in the right direction.
Naturally, I wish you all the best and hope you've caught this early enough to avoid further complications and long term medication :)
Have a huge sugar free hug from the big Jock :D
Good Matt, you sound like you're getting a grip already. Shed the weight mate, it'll do you more favours and the type 2 may even go away. Give your pancreas a rest for a bit and function can regularly go back to normal with type 2. Get your hands on a blood sugar testing meter and keep an eye that way, it's really easy to do and you'll see for yourself what certain foods do to your blood sugar.
I am glad they figured out what is going on, and it's great that you can take steps to fix it! I hope the adjustment isn't too hard on you:-)
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