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If you get stitch, try altering your breathing pattern by holding you breath for 1/2 second and then carrying on. You tend to breathe out at a certain point in your running stance, so altering that may get rid of stitch. Also, avoid meals within 2 hrs of running and if it won't go away, slow down.
You still get out of breath even if you're fit you know. Your heart still needs to pump more oxygenated blood around your body when you undertake any kind if physical effort. I bet you would have been much more out of breath this time last yr!! :)
Increasing your distance rather than your speed will have a greater effect on your general fitness as it's cardio over a longer period of time. Less chance of injury too.
I went out for a gentle run to ease my knee back in last week. Unfortunately it ended up in tears and I was on painkillers for the next couple of days. I think I'm going to have to knock it on the head for a few weeks and strengthen my knee with low impact exercise. I've been on the bike quite a bit and it's fine, so I reckon a few weeks pedalling ought to get it strong enough to run on again.
No idea what I've done but it's shockingly painful down the front-outside and back of my knee.
Since it's quiet again I might as well post an update. The knee is painless now but I'm reluctant to run on it yet. I need to strengthen it up a bit first so I'm sticking to the bike for a few weeks. I can get my exercise without the impact and ease myself in with a bit of walking. Conveniently, I have a walking partner at work so as long as the weather stays nice I ought to be able to get running again soon :)
I just went for a run and my knee felt REALLY bad that I chickened out and quit after 25 mins (3 miles). Of course, it could be that Im still recovering from a wedding at the weekend, and choccie eggs and general pigging out that accompanies weekends at my parents house ;)
But seriously - I do think I'm going to have to see someone about my knee. Maybe I need to do something like you jonny and build up some muscle around it through low impact excercise for a while... hmm food for thought; I'll have the duck!
I'm going to try the exercise route before the doctor because that's what they always suggest first. It'll save me one journey there.
Sounds like a wise idea Jonny. I don't know what your stride is like, but it might be worth shortening it. It puts a lot less pressure on your joints and you're less prone to injury if you have a shorter stride. Worth a try anyway.
Pickers - Same as above, but I think I'd go and see a sports physio if it's something that keeps giving you hassle. It probably isn't your knee at all and is one of the many muscles surrounding it, but unless you know it'll be trial & error until you find something that helps it back to health.
I did 17 miles yesterday, which felt more like 70. From about mile 9 I was ready to give up and had to talk myself out of phoning Leon to get me several times. Still, I made it and it was a decent pace even though it felt awful.
It knocked my confidence slightly because I really couldn't have run another 9 miles on top of that, but I had a pep talk with a friend from running club last night and was reassured that everyone is feeling knackered by this stage in the training and that tapering (gradually dropping mileage until race day) will sort everything out so that I'll feel fresh as a daisy... I hope so!!
I've also managed to kill a pair of trainers since Jan as I've done almost 400 miles. My knees started hurting last weekend, which for me is a sign that I need new trainers. So, I ordered a new pair (identical to the ones I have) and broke them in yesterday. It could also be a reason why I felt so rubbish because my legs weren't used to all the springy boingyness that you get from new trainers.
Anyway, looking forward to my taper now. Half marathon next weekend and I'm hoping for a PB. I should be able to make it as long as I don't feel like I did yesterday!!
Sounds like a wise idea Jonny. I don't know what your stride is like, but it might be worth shortening it. It puts a lot less pressure on your joints and you're less prone to injury if you have a shorter stride. Worth a try anyway.
That's interesting, duly noted :)
I think it's from the hills in Guildford coupled with not really being strong enough to tackle a run like that. Not enough strength on the legs and I injured a knee. Will give the stride thing a go, I don't think I have a particularly long stride but I can probably use that advice when I start running again :)
well done for powering through Kate, we're all behind you here! (not literally, I'd have dropped off at around the 3 mile mark) ;)
Aww thanks :) I've signed up for support points ran by 2 forums I post on at mile 17 and mile 22, so I'll be getting hugs & jelly babies from people I speak to on the Runners World & Fetch Everyone forums :D Quited excited about meeting people.
I will bring my map with all the pubs marked so anyone who wants to sit and wait for me to come by can do so in comfort with a drink in their hand. I can also try and work out what time I'd be due to pass.
Have you started your RFL training yet?
Wishing you all the best Kate :) Not sure if we can be there on the day. We'll definitely be watching for you on TV.
3rd week now. I'm doing 3 5k's each week. Tues/Thurs/Sat. I've started to meet my gf at her gym on Tues/Thurs to run with her on hills now not just the flat prom. Its a bit tougher for sure. I have no pain while running but I've noticed that sometimes when I get up from my desk chair my right knee hurts a bit. Now this could be absolutely nothing to do with running or a sign that my kneecap is about to pop off leaving me unable to walk again ;) I'm thinking that as I have no issues when running I'm ok to run?
Pete, your dedication is outstanding! I am honestly in awe!
I forced myself out of bed at half 6 this morning to get a run in after being really worried about my last outing. I spent a good 20 mins flexing joints and stretching before heading out the door; this seems to have helped a fair bit, as my knee wasnt so bad, and felt perfect for the first half of my run; however I am finding I am running oddly on my right leg to avoid too much shock, which is probably putting strain on other muscles.
Anyway, I managed 40 mins and could have gone longer, but thought this was long enough - didnt want to overdo it and feel crappy with pain and discomfort again! I also enjoyed seeing the sun rising in the sky, and running along the canal. Beautiful morning.
How's the running going then Pete? Hills will definitely make you much stronger & fitter too. If you're having knee pain, it could be due to a multitude of causes which I won't even go into.
Do you stretch after your runs? Pleeeease do not underestimate the importance of stretching post-run. I ran a half marathon last week and was so excited about my finish time (took 8 mins off personal best) that I forgot to stretch. It completely buggered my knee on Thurs because everything had tightened up and have been paying for it by not being able to run and nightly self-massage & stretching rituals. Rubbish. Basic muscle groups to stretch are calves, quads, glutes, hamstring, shins.
Careful with compensating for your knee pain by running differently Pickers. As you rightly say, it puts strain on the other muscles and you may end up with something else. Might be worth getting it looked at.
Well my marathon training is almost over now. I haven't been able to run for a week due to an injury I picked up for being a stupid idiot and forgetting to stretch, but I seem to have sorted it now and will be going for a short run tonight to test the water. The lack of running this close to the race won't affect my fitness though. It's just psychological torture :p At the moment, I'm absolutely terrified but unbelievably excited. I keep watching snippets of marathon videos that people post on the running forums and they're so inspiring. I can't believe I'm actually going to do it!!! :) :) :)
Well I'd not run in almost 6.5 weeks due to a 3 week vacation and then got a tad ill on the return probably due to the whole 13 hours jetleg and not sleeping for 3 days in a row - not including the few days over there were we avoided a hotel to get in more travelling.
Anyway, ran Saturday went terribly. 7.5k, almost 50 minutes, had to walk 10, and despite streching down properly like I always do could barely walk Sun/Mon and don't think I'm going to make it today, arghghgh.
Good luck for the weekend!
How was the test run yesterday LostKat? All feel alright? :)
It's today. Feeling good so fingers crossed!! :)
How's the running going then Pete? Hills will definitely make you much stronger & fitter too. If you're having knee pain, it could be due to a multitude of causes which I won't even go into.
Knee pain has gone off thankfully. Aside from it being hard work I'm finding things ok :) Out 3 times a week. Stretching before and after. Have been since the start :) Doing between 32-34 mins at the mo for a 5km.
I can't believe I'm actually going to do it!!! :) :) :)
You're going to be awesome at it you crazy crazy insane person :)
Knee is GOOD :D
I can now allow myself to get stuuuupidly excited. WOOOOOOO!!!! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
Any one got any good diagrams/videos on how to stretch properly. My shins are agony after 2km. I'm sure it's down to bad stretching or missing important stretches out. If I point toes up it exagerates the pain, if I straigthen foot out kind of in line with leg the pain stops.
Best one is this, but blokes often struggle with it:
http://www.drnickcampos.com/health-newsletter/Los%20Angeles%20Chiropractic--shin%20splints.jpg
Otherwise, try either of these:
http://professionalmassagetherapist.org/images/stretchimages/image_136.jpg http://professionalmassagetherapist.org/images/stretchimages/image_134.jpg
Shins pretty much always hurt in relatively new runners. The most important thing is remembering to stretch them so that you avoid shin splints. Also, don't forget calves, quads, hamstring, glutes etc.
There are loads of websites which show you how to do the stretches to be honest, so just google away.
Piggymon
21-04-2010, 07:21
Knee is GOOD :D
I can now allow myself to get stuuuupidly excited. WOOOOOOO!!!! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
YAY !! :D
Cheers lostkat shall see what it's like tomorrow.
It'll probably take a while for them to settl. So don't be suprised if they're still painful
Went to see the physio last night who checked my knee out and loosened my hips & calves off. She's declared me in "tip top" condition :p and I'm ready to go. So excited now. I just need to convert all this excited/nervous energy into hardcore running on the day.
Looks like it's going to be a nice day for you supporters too, but not so nice for me running it!!
Hope it goes well this weekend. You've certainly put the effort in! Well done!
Knackered both my legs a few weeks ago (I'm sure you all know why by now :o) so I've been fairly immobile - with worrying signs with my kneecaps too. Determined to start at least walking again once I recover though - I want my stamina back!
First of those stretches would probably kill me right now! Used to do the last one (when I remembered :o). Middle one is a good one for me as I struggle to do anything that involves balancing - thanks.
Did 13km yesterday, or 8 miles. Thats 1/3rd of a marathon. I know I can push on and do 15km, then its 20km which is around a half marathon. The only real reason why I stopped was because I reached home and figured "13km... thats my house... I'm done." I try and run far away so I'm forced to either run back or walk. Running takes less time.
You're an inspiration Pete :)
Any one got any good diagrams/videos on how to stretch properly. My shins are agony after 2km. I'm sure it's down to bad stretching or missing important stretches out. If I point toes up it exagerates the pain, if I straigthen foot out kind of in line with leg the pain stops.
How are your shins now? I went to get fitted for proper running shoes for a similar thing and now I have them, I went for a test run and my feet/legs felt much more comfortable (although the rest of me was fooked) :shocked:
They said that if you overpronate then it can cause you problems with your shins, so don't know if that might be it.
Only managed 2.5k, but it was very humid and I haven't been out running for months (although I do walk around 2/3m every day) so not too bad. Also spent about 40 minutes on and off the treadmill in the shop trying different shoes on.
Will go out either tomorrow (if I've loosened up a bit, I can't believe how stiff I am this morning - mostly around my arms and back) or Monday. Try to get a bit further!
Did 13km yesterday, or 8 miles. Thats 1/3rd of a marathon. I know I can push on and do 15km, then its 20km which is around a half marathon. The only real reason why I stopped was because I reached home and figured "13km... thats my house... I'm done." I try and run far away so I'm forced to either run back or walk. Running takes less time.
Way to go! I've had a load of time off of late so am just getting back in, 5-6km is about the limit :s Though the fact that it's a little warm and humid is probably taking it's toll on me too.
Brilliant work Pete, you're really coming on. Do you have a half marathon in mind? It's my favourite distance for a race :)
Glad the new trainers are going well Kitten. It's amazing what a difference a decent properly fitted pair of running shoes make. When I get new ones, it feels like I'm running on air... though that's because I've usually worn the old ones down to the point of my knees starting to hurt :D
Most newish runners have problems with their shins because their muscles simply aren't used to being stressed in that way before, but you're right about overpronation being a contributing factor as well as the wrong shoes. Increasing your mileage too quickly can also bring them on - a seasoned runner at our club suffered with them when he was training for London because he jacked up his long runs too quickly. Usually, they go away after a month or so and providing the pain isn't too intense, you can run with them. Icing them after the run helps to bring down inflamation and I always do shin stretches to keep them at bay. However, if they won't go away the only solution is rest.
Training is going well for me at the moment, although I am suffering with a manky toe (still from London) and worse blisters than normal. I've always had trouble with shoes, and trainers are no exception. No matter what shoes/socks I try, I end up with blisters. They don't usually bother me too much, but I have a blister on top of another blister at the moment, which is a bit painful. :(
Anyway, the Leicester Marathon is now 15 weeks away. 2 weeks after that I have the Birmingham Half Marathon, followed by the Rutland Water Marathon 2 weeks later. It's going to be tough! Lots of league races to keep me going in the meantime though. Need to get my speed back :)
How are your shins now? I went to get fitted for proper running shoes for a similar thing and now I have them, I went for a test run and my feet/legs felt much more comfortable (although the rest of me was fooked) :shocked:
Much better I gave up :(
My knee seems to be well fixed now. I can run again :D
Unfortunately I jarred my 'bad' knee doing something at the weekend and it hurts to bend and walk on it again. Argh. Nothing I can do about that though, it's damaged cartilage and unless I get it operated on it'll keep giving me jip (and maybe if I get it operated on again they might actually do the right operation this time...)
Can't believe how stiff my back and arms were after that ickle run on Friday. Shows how you get out of shape in certain areas even when you don't realise it (was doing lots of arm work before and have concentrated on legs most recently).
Are you relaxing your arms/shoulders when you run? You're not clenching your fists or anything are you? It can really make a big difference if you're tense up top.
semi-pro waster
12-07-2010, 21:55
Are you relaxing your arms/shoulders when you run? You're not clenching your fists or anything are you? It can really make a big difference if you're tense up top.
To repeat a tip I think I gave near the start of the thread, just lightly touch your thumb to your forefinger/middle finger and it's much more difficult to tense up unless you consciously try. Credit for this tip goes to the great Emil Zatopek and if it's good enough for him it's fine for us mere mortals. :)
I went on a short run with some people from work today, I got rather roped into it as apparently my reply of "could do" when asked was taken for the boundless enthusiasm it rather patently was not. However I did quite enjoy it and it was a whole lot easier than I expected given I haven't done any form of cardio really for a good long while.
Ahh yes, I couldn't find my ipod arm thing, so I had ipod in one hand and dog lead in the other. Think they were pretty scrunched up. Is that bad :/
Ignore that. Clearly it is.
Von Smallhausen
13-07-2010, 14:12
Best one is this, but blokes often struggle with it:
http://www.drnickcampos.com/health-newsletter/Los%20Angeles%20Chiropractic--shin%20splints.jpg
Although 35 and past my peak I wouldn't struggle with that. Phwoaar!
Ahh yes, I couldn't find my ipod arm thing, so I had ipod in one hand and dog lead in the other. Think they were pretty scrunched up. Is that bad :/
Ignore that. Clearly it is.
BAD Kitten! :p You should run as though you have an ice cream sandwich in your hand... mmmmm ice creeeeaaaam :D
leowyatt
13-07-2010, 20:49
mmmmm ice creeeeaaaam :D
mmmmm sandwich :p
By the end of my run I'd have 2 mushy wafers ;)
I do start running with closed fists but open them up after a few minutes. Just feels easier.
I'm going to train for the Liverpool half marathon next March. Part of me is quite tempted by the full marathon in Liverpool in Oct 2011 if they get it. Just to see if I can do it. Never been one for physical activity but I'm curious to see what I can really do.
OK, well I ran 3.5k last night without stopping and was fine. Had to stop though because I got pins & needles in my foot and it went dead :/ I had my new runners on (4th or 5th time out) but it was the first time I've run on a treadmill & not the road in ages.
I checked they weren't too tight (they weren't) but the muscle in the back of my leg (my calf?) was very tight. When I stretched it out the pins & needles went away. Do I need to do something before I start running (i usually do a 2/3 minute walk to get myself going and then start to run). I think I'd have been able to carry on a little longer had that not happened. Any advice?
Actually, just googled it, seems a lot of people having the problem, in my case think it's my calf not being stretched properly (I don't really stretch before, just after?)
Also, for anyone who's taking up running or wants to sooth achey running muscles (or any others, from gardening or DIY or anything) get on the power plate at the gym, works wonders! I've got a vibration plate at home and my legs have been ace from just 5 mins on there when I've walked home from the gym/stopped running.
If I don't try and warm up I normally get problems after 30 mins, if I do the 5 min reasonable speed walk first I have been known to last a lot longer. When I was more active the entire 5 mins was less neccesary, but that was when I was hitting 20-25k a week no problem rather that struggling with 15.
I'm fine other than the numb foot. Could comfortably have carried on otherwise. Is that what you mean by problems? Do you get the same thing?
Sounds like you just have very tight calves Kitten. Stretching before a run is generally not thought to be beneficial, but if do a couple of mins light jogging and then stop to stretch, that should help. After your run, stretch your calves out by standing with your toes on a step and dropping the heel downwards. You'll feel a really nice stretch down the back of your legs (do one at a time if you have trouble balancing). Hold the stretch for 1 whole minute. Sounds a long time, but it takes this long for the muscle to really relax and let go.
Do your hamstrings too. The best one is to lie on the floor with one leg bent or on the floor, then pull the other leg towards your chest. Try to push back with the leg you're pulling on to intensify the stretch.
You may also benefit from some self massage of your calves with a tennis or golf ball (helps you get right into the muscle).. or just get Matt to pummel them a bit for you :)
Hope that helps
I'm fine other than the numb foot. Could comfortably have carried on otherwise. Is that what you mean by problems? Do you get the same thing?
I get different pains, try the stretches though. I used to have different issues for a day or two after running but have some stretches that I do standardly now and recover better. Probably differs from person to person what is needed?
Yeah definitely, but you should always stretch out the main muscle groups after each run (quads, calves, hamstrings, hip felxor, ITB etc.)
I got some new trainers fitted up in Sweatshop in Teddington. I knew I had a bit of an odd step compared with my running buddies, so I have some with high inner support to correct my over-supination.
http://www.sw.org/web/patientsAndVisitors/iwcontent/public/tembel_health/en_us/images/Allpronation.jpg
Went for Mizuno's again because I find them most comfortable and they offer a 30 day satisfaction guarantee even if I've run in them.
Excellent! Didn't know they did a satisfaction guarantee. My faves are mizuno although they're starting to wear out now. I used to over pronate but am now neutral as my running gait has changed since I first started. Gives a lot more choice in trainers. Quite fancy some Nike lunarglides next :-)
I think pronation and supination can be initially due to weakness. When I first started running (and cycling) I walked and ran with my feet very turned out. I've noticed they have straightened up now my legs have strengthened. I wouldn't mind betting my supination corrects itself with time as well.
Look at the way people who never do any exercise walk down the road. You can see how weak their legs are and they do exactly the same.
Admiral Huddy
31-08-2010, 14:17
Yay back running a full 15 minutes on the treadmill at 13kmph with training inclines. Doing lots of leg weights too to help re-develop and strengthen my legs as I've lost so much leg muscle over the last 18 months.
13 kmph = 13000 mph, that's over mach 10 :shocked:
This I've got to see :D
Admiral Huddy
02-09-2010, 09:09
Best one is this, but blokes often struggle with it:
http://www.drnickcampos.com/health-newsletter/Los%20Angeles%20Chiropractic--shin%20splints.jpg
Yummy .. :p
NO NO NO! The picture below is wrong!!!!! - Look at the forward knee protruding further than the toes. Always keep the knees behind the toes when squatting, lunging or any type of bending else you'll have knees like mine!
http://professionalmassagetherapist.org/images/stretchimages/image_136.jpg
Admiral Huddy
02-09-2010, 09:14
13 kmph = 13000 mph, that's over mach 10 :shocked:
This I've got to see :D
huh ?? maybe that should be 13km/h
13 km = 8.07782 miles based on a .621mph per 1km/h
I visited the Physio today about my achey knee. I was manipulated and contorted in all manner of scary ways, before the physio announced:-
"you have excellent ligaments"
"errr, thanks?" says I.
The whole session was hilarious - I couldnt help but laugh and crack jokes at the embarassing things she was making me do!
Apparently the bone, ligament and muscle structure is very good, but oddly the knee that I suffer pain in is my strongest leg; this had the poor girl baffled. Anyway, she checked my feet and proudly announced that I overpronate, which is likely to be the cause of iffy knee.
I should try trainers with anti-pronation blocks for running, and get some longitudinal arch supports for my day to day footwear.
I'll get some, wear them for a while to see if knee improves and then give running another go. If not, its time to buy a bike!
Fingers crossed!!
It's not uncommon to overpronate. Did you get your first pair of running shoes fitted properly? If so, they should have seen that you overpronate. Check whether the ones you are running in are support shoes or not. Overpronators generally need what they term "support" or "motion control" shoes. It's what I used to run in.
How's the running going Huddy?
I bought myself some Nike Lunarglide+ 2's the other week and did a track session in them last Friday. They felt good, so I decided to do something really silly and run a 20 miler in them on Sunday. Normally I'd brake them in for a few weeks first, but they felt so comfortable and I'm really sick of getting blisters so I thought I'd give them a go. They were great!! I'm so pleased I've actually found a pair of trainers which fit properly and don't give me blisters. Hurrah!! :)
Sports massage on Friday and then hopefully another 20 miles on Saturday if my legs feel up to it. Then it's taper time. Leicester Marathon in 3 and a bit weeks. Argh!!
I didnt, no Kate. I just did the wet paper test and went for a neutral trainer. I've not run in months now :/
Admiral Huddy
17-09-2010, 16:33
Your story is remarkable Kate.. Keep up the good work.
I got up 20 minutes 2 twice a week then something felt a bit uncomfortable so I've had to rest up.. again..
Here's a question. What do you keep water in while running? We had little bottles but after 5km it turned into hot water which was horrible.
Here's a question. What do you keep water in while running? We had little bottles but after 5km it turned into hot water which was horrible.
>10 miles - Camelbak bottle belt
> 15 miles - Camelbak bladder in a little rucksack
I've got a metal drinks bottle, one of the hiking/climbing type which is sort of universal purpose for me :D
I'm undecided on my new trainers. They are on the 30 day guarantee from Sweatshop which is up tomorrow. I ran some distance on Saturday morning and they were pushing my toes over to the front-outside of the shoe and I had sore toes afterwards. However, today I did a few K at lunchtime and was fine. When I walk in them they land perfectly, unlike the old ones that had a wiggle where the support wasn't correct but they aren't as instantly comfortable like the old ones were. I can't decide if it was the socks I was wearing or if they just need breaking in, or a bit of both.
I'm no expert on running shoes but I've had 0 issues with my Muzios (sp?).
Oh and today I ran 16km, my furthest distance \o/ 1h48.
Oh and thanks Kate, I'll take a look at those :) Probably don't need the > 10 mile one just yet. Gimme a few more months ;)
That's fantastic Pete, well done! You're ready for a half by the sounds of it. You only need to train up to 10-11 miles for a half, and you're pretty much there. Why don't you find one in Nov/Dec and go for it? :)
I only say >10 miles for the belt because I don't take any drink if I'm running less than that. Carrying a bottle in my hand isn't an option because I find it uncomfortable, so I just don't take water at all if I'm running less than 10 miles.
Makes sense. I found it annoying having to carry one yesterday.
There's a half marathon around Liverpool next year sometime in spring I think. My first official run that I sign up for is going to be the Liverpool Santa Dash :D An event I've photographed many times but this time I'm going to run it. Last year my gf did it and I stood by watching everyone run/walk past. I'd only been running about 2 months but I felt guilty seeing people run for 2 mins then walk it. So I can't wait to actually run it. Its going to be amazing :D Only 5k but its nice that I can now say "only" 5k :)
I'm probably soon going to be in the market for some anti-pronation trainers...
I really hope my knee improves - I can sense my fitness waning!
I'm still plodding along slowly, got myself back to a 'reasonable' level and running 6-7k normally 3 times a week at the moment. I also walk 5k into work whenever I run so I guess that combined with having the backpack on makes things a little tougher.
Had a couple of shockers recently though, a 10k taking 65 mins and then after missing Friday's run due to the cold went out for a quick 2.5k Saturday and went a little too fast. Did .25 miles in 1 min, < 3 mins by the .5 mile and ended up walking before the first mile was up from incredible teeth pain of all things.
I'm probably soon going to be in the market for some anti-pronation trainers...
I really hope my knee improves - I can sense my fitness waning!
Seriously, take it easy and build up slowly. I injured my knee and a chap here at work did all sorts of damage that is taking an age to repair properly.
Use a cross trainer or bike to build the strength up if you need to because it's low impact, but also remember you use different muscles.
Admiral Huddy
22-09-2010, 15:20
Seriously, take it easy and build up slowly. I injured my knee and a chap here at work did all sorts of damage that is taking an age to repair properly.
Use a cross trainer or bike to build the strength up if you need to because it's low impact, but also remember you use different muscles.
\o I really must post those pictures of repaired meniscus and part removal of synovial membrane
Both my knees hurt today.. I've made an appointment back with the specialist next week.. I may go in sooner rather than later for my right knee :(
This all sounds a bit scary. Have I been lucky this past year with my running? Other than stiffness the next day I've not had any issues. Considering that I wasn't really that active at school, and then did nothing for 10 yrs after that I'm amazed that I've been able to do 5km let alone 16. I'm kinda waiting for the other shoe to drop and to badly injury myself.
Nothing to worry about, just to be aware about.
I overdid it at first and because my legs were weak I could run distance but wasn't strong enough for my joints to stay protected. The chap at work is ultra fit and strong from cycling, but you use completely different muscles for running, so although it appeared he could run fine, some muscles were completely underdeveloped (the ones that run down the sides of your thighs). Basically when he ran on uneven ground there was no muscle to support his legs sideways and he tore them up something chronic.
So to summarise, don't panic, just keep an eye on things :D
Ah ok. I had twinges around 15k on Monday so I slowed down and took a breather just to be safe. I do worry that something bad will happen and people say not to over do it. But I've never been physically active so I'm just stunned that I can do this. I wanna see how far I can go. That may include a marathon simply because it would be epicly amazing to do. I just don't know what over doing it is for me. Every time I reach my limit I just do more.
I felt similar to you Pete. I wasn't particularly athletic before I took up running and was concerned about the amount of stress that marathon training would put on my body. I've been lucky so far I think, but I do stretch and have a sports massage every few months. That takes away any aches & pains as well as being an early warning station for potential problems. Just keep doing what you're doing and above all, listen to your body.
Completed marathon #2 today in 4:22:44. Not what I wanted, but not as bad as I feared. Given that my training was seriously hindered by tonsilitis, I'm quite happy with that :)
Also, having now completed 2 marathons I'm officially a 'proper' marathon runner now, according to a guy at our running club :D
Next up: Birmingham Half Marathon in a few weeks, followed by Rutland Water Marathon on 7th November. An off road marathon around a reservoir. Going to be windy and cold!!!
Take it from someone who struggles to run 10k (and realises many can't do that), 26.2 miles is a great achievement regardless of the time!
You might get lucky with a bit of warmth, it was a beautiful day yesterday. Personally I prefer to run in 10C than 30C too, windy can suck a little tho.
Me too. It was far too hot (hot?? October?? Ha!!) for me out there, in the second half when the sun started beating down.
Struggling to conquer the stairs or stand up/sit down today. Quads are agony!! :)
Take it from someone who struggles to run 10k (and realises many can't do that), 26.2 miles is a great achievement regardless of the time!
Damn right. I still can't get my head round running for 26 miles straight!
In other news I'm booked in on the Richmond Deer Park 10k in November. My first 10k :D
I have trouble getting my head around it, and I've done it twice! :p It's bloody hard and absolutely nothing can prepare you for hitting the wall, other than hitting the wall. In some respects, I think London was easier because I didn't know what was coming. This time, I did.
That's great news Jonny about your race :D Is it on the road or cross country?
On road as far as I know :)
Well done Kate :) It does sound insane when you think about it. Constantly running for 4hrs. The things you can do in 4hrs. Crazy.
Marathon length: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-11572283
That's a pretty impressive skill, I'd think running on the outer side of the road instead of the inside could make up 193 meters.
Also, if he can run 13.1 miles (okay 12.98) in 1h20m then that's a speed of 6.1 minutes per mile, not bad. However if you can do 6.1 miles a minute that's 44 seconds for 193 meters, not 1 min 10 seconds. (I could be slightly off here).
Personally, I did 5.03 miles (roughly) last night in 47:24. Hmmm :(
I officially started my training for the 2011 Lincoln 10k race yesterday. My legs, they hurt like mad! I think I might have to take it easy tomorrow and just do a 5k walk/jog and a few shoulder, neck and stomach exercises.
I couldn't go to the gym today as the stairs in my house are mocking me. Next time I have to go up them, I'm not coming down until the morning!
well done Tiggy. Rest if you need to and make sure you stretch out.
Yup, take it easy and don't try to do too much too soon or you'll either injure yourself or get annoyed with lack of progress and give up (or even both!). You have plenty of time to train :)
Thanks girls. I was hoping to go to the gym today, but I've had to rest again today. I'm going to have a nice hot monkey bath later, and see how I feel in the morning.
I think I'm going to also have to have a word with Dan (my free personal trainer, yay I'm so lucky :) ) and tone down my training routine for a few weeks as obviously I am pushing it a bit too far too soon.
Birmingham Half Marathon today. The organisation was complete ****e and the start was chaos. I was on the wrong side of the barrier in a scrum to get to the start when the race actually began.
Ran it in 1:50:26, which I'm pretty happy with considering I ran a marathon 2 weeks ago. This soon after London, I was still struggling with 5-6 miles at running club. It just goes to show how much stronger a runner I've become. Still, not looking forward to my next marathon in 2 weeks. Erk!!!!
Good job on the half marathon, 1h50m seems a pretty good time to me regardless of having run a full marathon just two weeks ago!
Get some rest for the next few weeks?!
Thanks :) Yeah, no long runs for me until Rutland in 2 weeks. 6-7 miles down the club tops.
Sooooooooo...... what's been going on runners?
I've got my 10k next weekend. I did a bit of a longer run than normal last night from Croydon to Penge which equates to about 8km according to the map and I did that in 40 minutes flat with my rucksack on with clothes and laptop in which I'm happy with :)
What's a good website for calculating distance? Ideally it would be something I can plot a route onto by clicking the points I passed.
Google maps can do that using the directions thing, just keep adding points to it.
semi-pro waster
13-11-2010, 10:42
MapMyRun (http://www.mapmyrun.com/) ought to do it for you, it's fairly easy to use.
Nothing much has changed on the running front for me, I've been trying to go whenever I can in work although recently our little running club seems to have suffered a lot from people crying off - maybe it's just the time of year where it looks less appealing to go.
Bloody hell chaps, that was quick :D
Excellent, some new things to play with.
I use MapMyRun too, works out well though the "undo" feature is a bit dubious - it sometimes removes distance but the line stays the same.
I've been hitting a new route that avoids the flooded canal, just over 8k but my times are more 50 mins than 40 (with backpack though don't find it makes a huge difference?). Having a few issues with a tendon or ligament in my right knee so having to take a few breaks :s
That doesn't sound too good. I ran through a bit of a pull on my calf yesterday, which I know I shouldn't do, but it seems to be fine today.
It's fine walking, just after a few miles keeps having a twinge as if it's gonna go.
Bah, hate taking time off.
Edit - I think I read somewhere it was always okay to run through minor pains, just the really bad ones that you were meant to stop for? That said I've been running through 4-5 miles of shinsplints a few times. My trainers may be going, only done 300 miles in them tho.
Probably an obvious question jmc but are you stretching your quads and itb after a run? Pain in the knee is often caused by a problem with another muscle/tendon linked to the knee. Might be worth getting it seen to if it persists.
Sounds like your 10k is going to go great jonny. Stretch those calves though. Best one is standing on a step with your toes on, then dropping your heels down to feel the stretch. My physio reckons that if you do nothing else, you should do those.
Completed my final marathon of 2010 last weekend. Rutland Water marathon. It was pretty tough, being the first offroad marathon I've done and it was hillier than expected. I had a ball though. The weather was gorgeous and the views amazing. Loved it :-) Seemed to have picked up an injury with my food though, probably due to the uneven ground.
Probably an obvious question jmc but are you stretching your quads and itb after a run? Pain in the knee is often caused by a problem with another muscle/tendon linked to the knee. Might be worth getting it seen to if it persists.
Yeah, got a couple that do the quads, will have to try and find something for the itb though, thought I had most areas covered but the ones that look they do that might not be atm.
Three marathons this year then? Or is that four, either way great going. I can't imagine going much past 10 miles!
Sounds like your 10k is going to go great jonny.
I think it was going to go great. I'm currently in the process of being struck down with manflu and it feels like it's going to be a bad one. No chance to rest up this week either because I've got too much on. Ugh. We'll see. I'm pretty determined to do it now I'm signed up so I might just have to take it easy on the day and not run at normal pace.
I think it was going to go great. I'm currently in the process of being struck down with manflu and it feels like it's going to be a bad one. No chance to rest up this week either because I've got too much on. Ugh. We'll see. I'm pretty determined to do it now I'm signed up so I might just have to take it easy on the day and not run at normal pace.
I read that if the symptons are above the throat it's fine (eyes, nose, etc..) but if it's lower so chest and possible throat related it's a bad idea. I've certainly run in the middle of a bad cold (and even with nose bleed before) and it's no fun. I try to take the worst couple of days off.
Hopefully it'll clear up to a degree soon, bad ones normal die out sooner, fingers crossed!
Yep, if it's a head cold then you're good to go. You might even find it makes you feel better (I do). Below the throat and you're at risk if it being on your chest though, so rest up.
I failed my first run on Sunday. Set out to do a 10km and only managed about 8.9km. Despite no changes to my diet I got low blood sugar around 4km and 8km marks. Had to munch glucose sweets to keep going. Bloody annoying. I've had this problem, hypoglycemia, for well most of my life really. Been tested for diabetes and apparently I'm fine.
I want to run a marathon and I've ran 16km without issue on less food than I had on Sunday. Yet on Sunday I just couldn't do it. Hated myself for giving up. I've always managed to keep going.
I read that if the symptons are above the throat it's fine (eyes, nose, etc..) but if it's lower so chest and possible throat related it's a bad idea. I've certainly run in the middle of a bad cold (and even with nose bleed before) and it's no fun. I try to take the worst couple of days off.
Hopefully it'll clear up to a degree soon, bad ones normal die out sooner, fingers crossed!
Well it's right on my chest at the moment with aches and fever, but it's breaking out into a cold. This is good news because it's a cold and not flu, like I thought it might be. I think I'll be good to go by the weekend.
Pete, do you eat before you run?
Pete, do you eat before you run?
Yeah, not right before though. Sunday's I eat 3 pieces of toast, maybe an apple and then run 10k without issue. Last Sunday I had 3 pieces of toast, then lunch of potato wedges and about 1hr after went for a run.
I find eating anything within 2-3 hours before gives me problems. And if it's a huge meal longer.
That said, mapmyrun (which is where I tend to waste my time) has this: http://running.about.com/od/nutritionandhydration/f/preruneating.htm
And potato wedges are defo the right direction in terms of carbs! (well, maybe excepting pasta?)
I don't know how far I could go if I ran on an empty stomach. I hate eating breakfast first thing because it makes me feel rotten for most of the day, but I can *just* about do my 6km commute by bike and then I'm hungry so have to get something in me.
If I run as soon as I get up then I need a sugary tea at the least to see me through a few km, but I don't think I could push much further than that. If I run in the evening I need to make sure I've had a snack at the least to see me through it.
This puts me in a bit of a quandry for the 10k next week because it starts at 9:30am, which is too early for me to be able to eat breakfast, but at the same time the distance is too high for me to do on an empty stomach that late in the morning.
Any recommendations welcomed :)
get up earlier so you can get breakfast in?
If I have a race at 9, I get up at 5 and have a bowl of porridge then... but I get up at 5:30 in the week anyway so it's no biggie for me! :)
Good old banana and cup of black coffee an hour before always heped me.
Everyone is diferent though. My sister throws up if she exercises with anything in her stomach while I need something to eat an hour before or don't have enough energy to give it my best.
I failed my first run on Sunday. Set out to do a 10km and only managed about 8.9km. Despite no changes to my diet I got low blood sugar around 4km and 8km marks. Had to munch glucose sweets to keep going. Bloody annoying. I've had this problem, hypoglycemia, for well most of my life really. Been tested for diabetes and apparently I'm fine.
I want to run a marathon and I've ran 16km without issue on less food than I had on Sunday. Yet on Sunday I just couldn't do it. Hated myself for giving up. I've always managed to keep going.
I also have low blood sugar and if I don't eat regularly I get so sluggish that my speech is affected and people think I'm drunk. I've had to be tested for diabetes several times but always comes back fine.
As long as I make sure there are bananas handy I never have a problem these days. You need to work out what works for you and then plan your runs around this. Just small changes to your diet will make an incredible difference to your energy levels.
Out of interest, what do these diabetes tests involve?
They get you to eat Mars bars till your mouth fizzes and you take off ;)
Nah, fasting and blood tests.
Well that doesn't sound like it's much cop to see if you can deal with sugar. Sounds like a half-assed check for type 2.
I'm quite chuffed with my time: 46.38
I'm actually really surprised because I'm still quite ill. Was up all night coughing and had to get the tissues out a couple of times on the run. I'm definitely not running in tights and shorts again. I was practically cooked alive. The water at 5K was a lifesaver.
Bring back any memories for you more seasoned funrunners? ;D
semi-pro waster
21-11-2010, 14:32
Congratulations on your run, does this mean you're going to be doing it more regularly now?
I think I'll probably do a couple a year. Trouble is, now I've got a benchmark ;D
That's a great time Jonny :D
I know what you mean about the water too -
http://i54.tinypic.com/2qipv5u.jpg
Refreshing! :D
That looks awesome. I want in :D
Anyone got any tips on winter gear? I went to a running shop last night to get a top but didn't find anything I liked. Ideally I want something to keep the bitter cold wind / rain off and not get me run over. The guy suggested a yellow top. I know its dark at night but yellow isn't really my colour.
That looks awesome. I want in :D
Honiton Hippo - takes you through 3 river crossings, a land rover experience day off-road course and the delights of both sides of a valley :p
Pete - In winter I wear usual running gear (joggers/shorts, long sleeved thermal tshirt, tshirt/vest) and wear a fluorescent/glow armband and/or waistband for visability.
If you're running in unlit areas regularly then it might be worth getting hold of a headtorch- I think Kate might do this but I'm unsure :)
Well done on your 10k Jonny. Cracking time :)
Unfortunately Pete, flouro yellow is THE colour to be seen in during the winter months. I have a particularly fetching jacket which can be seen from miles away :-) It really does pay to make yourself bright on the dark nights because cars just don't see you if you have a little flash of reflective strip here and there.
Sports Direct actually have some decent running gear. I usually run in full-length leggings and a long-sleeved top with a gillet over the top sometimes. I wear very thin gloves, which usually go in the pockets after 5 mins and a buff either as a headband to cover my ears or a neck warmer. If it's really cold I'll wear a windproof jacket. No point buying waterproof as (a) they're ridiculously pricey & (b) they're never actually particularly waterproof anyway. Oh and yes I do have a very good little LED headtorch for unlit paths.
Hope that helps :)
Bah. I guess yellow it is. Annoyingly I'll also be wearing it during the day, where people can see me.
I'm buying a Montane ultra thin windproof smock (Featherlight Smock: £45). It's not so much that it's a waterproof, but over a thinner running/cycling top it stops the wind blowing the heat out of you so you can wear less. I'll mainly be using it for cycling where I'll really feel the benefit but it'll probably come out for the occasional run as well.
On the legs I wear full length tights and shorts over the top if it's really cold but it's a bit too much really and I overheat. I'll probably just use my capris unless it gets really cold.
Yeah windproof gear really does help to keep you warm. Amazing what a difference it makes! The only reason I wear full length tights is because I get eczema on my legs which is worsened by exposure to the elements.
Just admit it's because you like showing off your booty ;)
That's why I hide mine under my shorts anyway ;D
Trust me, nobody wants to see my booty wibbling along the street :p It gets shown whether I wear full length or capri tights. Can't do those flappy shorts
Male Joggers and Runners of BD; how do you deal with keeping the gentleman sausage and love medallions warm on bitter winter excursions?
Male Joggers and Runners of BD; how do you deal with keeping the gentleman sausage and love medallions warm on bitter winter excursions?
I don't think I've noticed having a cold packet of Wotsits. I guess my tights have been keeping it all warm.
Keep a firm grip ;)
I live opposite the local school playing fields- not the most suitable look!
I guess my tights have been keeping it all warm.
Tights?! :(
Man-sock isn't redundant just yet then! ;D
I've skipped out on the yellow thing just for now. Got a red/grey top and I'm sure I've got a hi-vis around. Completed the Santa Dash (http://blog.petecarr.net/2010/12/07/the-liverpool-santa-dash/) on Sunday. Awesome fun :D
How do people cope with winter? Bit worried about trying to run in these icy conditions. Don't want to wait till winter's over as the half marathon is in March.
I need to get something sorted, almost bit hit twice now and last nights was really close with a BMW paying no attention to the road, perhaps running in navy and black isn't the best idea though. I have a LED headlight but feel stupid wearing it when not heading down the canal (and being so close to work) - which I've avoided since the floods and ice. I'd rather sprain an ankle on the road than in a canal with no lighting.
Because of the conditions (and leg problems) I've cut my runs down, but the last two I've done in a good base layer (level 3 patagonia) and a light cheap waterproof and gloves with light walking trousers that I can wear to work too. After 5-6 miles though the gloves are too hot really and the top just doesn't let air circulate.
Where possible I've been running on the grass as it's less likely to have ice - it's not muddy because it's frozen, and I can't imagine it's any worse on the legs than the pavement. I did slip down a small curb last night and 5 miles later the leg was in severe pain. Given the left leg was fine I'm convinced this did something. It's meant to get up to 2-4C later this week...
Fingers crossed! It's been ranging between -6 and -2 for the past week now! Brrrr!
semi-pro waster
07-12-2010, 20:30
How do people cope with winter? Bit worried about trying to run in these icy conditions. Don't want to wait till winter's over as the half marathon is in March.
I'm now a Southern pansy of course having lived in London for the past 18 months or so but generally my concession to cold weather is a hoody top and gloves if it's particularly cold. If it's into the minus figures then I might put on a pair of jogging bottoms but more often than not I won't even bother with that.
How do people cope with winter? Bit worried about trying to run in these icy conditions. Don't want to wait till winter's over as the half marathon is in March.
I'm just running in tights, shorts, t-shirt and long sleeve. I take gloves out but they come off after a while
I need to get something sorted, almost bit hit twice now and last nights was really close with a BMW paying no attention to the road, perhaps running in navy and black isn't the best idea though. I have a LED headlight but feel stupid wearing it when not heading down the canal (and being so close to work) - which I've avoided since the floods and ice. I'd rather sprain an ankle on the road than in a canal with no lighting.
Are you running in the road? You're crazy. I'd find a different route if I were you. The worse the weather gets the more stupid drivers become in my experience.
Are you running in the road? You're crazy. I'd find a different route if I were you. The worse the weather gets the more stupid drivers become in my experience.
Nah, pavements but a couple of the crossings lack any decent lighting or proper places to cross, there's a grass verge in the middle you gotta get there.
Yer I'm ok for clothing in winter. My biggest worry is the ice and my current shoes. Don't fancy trying to run on ice for fear of slipping.
Cross country trainers are excellent in snow & ice. I've been wearing my Adidas Kanadias for the past couple of weeks. They have more grip on the bottom and although they're still no good on sheet ice (nothing apart from running spikes will be), they're great on everything else. I was running last night with a girl who's faster than me but was wearing normal trainers. I was leaving her behind because my grip was so much better.
JMC - Please get some bright clothing for the love of god. Seriously, it's VERY dangerous to be running around in navy/black. No wonder you've nearly been hit! Just think how annoying/dangerous cyclists are to us car drivers when they have a dim back light and are wearing dark colours. A high vis running vest is about £4 from Sports Direct! Yes you look like a ****, but I'd rather look like a **** than get run over by someone who can't see.
I just invested in a North Face men's Torpedo Jacket in a sort of cross between piss yellow and puke green. The material is somewhere between Goretex and Spandex, difficult to describe but it's completely windproof and not watertight, so I shouldn't sweat too much in it and overheat. Posted it in here because it will probably get used for running and hiking as well as cycling. Going to try it out tomorrow on the bike; it was quite expensive so if it's not exactly what I'm looking for I'll have to take it back.
JMC - Please get some bright clothing for the love of god. Seriously, it's VERY dangerous to be running around in navy/black. No wonder you've nearly been hit! Just think how annoying/dangerous cyclists are to us car drivers when they have a dim back light and are wearing dark colours. A high vis running vest is about £4 from Sports Direct! Yes you look like a ****, but I'd rather look like a **** than get run over by someone who can't see.
Yeah, I do need to get something.
I have (somewhere) one of those fluoriscent (can't spell) stripe things. Plus the head torch... That should make me stand out like a sore thumb - probably better than a sore from breaking something :s
Well, looks like I'm running home next week. Rear light was nicked when it fell off my bike on the way home. Went back to look for it but it was gone in like two minutes. Can't risk riding in the dark until the new one arrives so I'll crack out the trainers.
That's three 6.5k runs, so I won't bother running over the weekend.
Looks like my exercise for the next week is walking. A lot.
****** snow.
I've been out in the snow. I quite like running in it.
Haven't run for 2 weeks due to a cold which has left me with pathetic cough. I wanted to get out tonight, but a walk down the road to retrieve my abandoned car (which I left in the snow this morning), had me coughing my guts up. Fed up!!! :( I love running in the snow!
I really struggled through 5k yesterday. Well not struggled, it just did me in. I knew I'd reached the end of my run, put it that way. Can't tell if it's my pace, the fact that I tackled 'the hill', running in slippery slush, or if I'm losing a bit of strength. I need to get a watch so I can monitor how fast I'm going; I slowed my pace right down on a 7k home from shopping a few nights ago and it corresponded to a 47 minute 10k, so I wasn't going as slow as I thought I was. Think I need to watch it or I'm going to start burning myself out.
camerajuan
27-12-2010, 05:09
3 track sessions in just over a week = more track than in the last 4 months. My body has forgotten that I am a sprinter & cannot sustain max effort for more than 40-50m :(
Definitely gym 4-5 times a week has helped my fitness since September but I can't run properly any more. Need to lose body fat, gain muscle & re-develop my sprint technique. Tips/suggestions/recommendations welcomed. I need to be a whippet again. Struggling to break 7.5 in a 60m is not something I'm comfortable with with a pb of 7.06.
(If anybody fancies a flutter on the New Year Sprint - Gillian Cooke is off 16.5m & really should be more like 10m. She'll be up there).
Bear in mind in the gym you're using a different set of muscles, in fact, if you're using machines you're only using muscles that operate in a straight line. What that means as a runner, is your balance and control muscles (groin, hips, ITB, shins and round the ankle) are underdeveloped compared to the big visible muscles you exercise in the gym (thighs, hams and calfs). It'll be your underdeveloped ones that you injure, because the bigger stronger muscles around them will over compensate and pull the others all over the place. Be careful and ease yourself in, basically.
I'm reading Runners World at the moment and it says to take it easy and start up slowly if you've been off for a bit. Trying to pick up where you left off will result in an injury.
I might be inclined to work on your cardio first, because you can do that with longer slower runs which will not hammer your weaker leg muscles too much. The running strength in your legs and core strength will build with it, you'll lose the fat, then you can drop the distance and increase the speed, do more weight work and switch to sprinting. I think that would be a sensible way to get back into it.
Only problem with that is distance running becomes quite addictive :D
We both got spikes for our shoes to let us run in the snow for Xmas. By the time we get home it'll be melted. Doh!
Well after 3 weeks off due to a crappy cough, I'm back with renewed enthusiasm.
Did a 6 mile race on boxing day. I was 4 seconds quicker than last year, which is awful because I've sped up a lot in the last 12 months. But it's understandable due to my reduced lung capacity, so I was still happy.
Been to Wales to see Leon's folks/friends over the past couple of days and did 2 short runs whilst there with Leon's Mum's friend, which I really enjoyed. Glad to be back into it just in time to commence marathon training in a few weeks ready for Windermere in May.
pete - Do some cross country running instead :) Don't have spikes personally, just trail shoes which are somewhere inbetween.
Hmmm cross country. Dunno. Its muddy :p
Kate, did you do anything specific for marathon training or just increase your distance? I'm thinking that if I increase my distance by 1km a week, or 2km every other week then I'll hit the required amount in time for October.
I ran once or twice over Christmas down at Southampton. I'd planned out a 7km route across country, through some woods, across a golf course and along some lanes out in the back of beyond, but took a wrong turning and ended up visiting a number of local villages, racking up 14k instead :D
It was quite good. I'd been planning to do a long slow one so I'm glad I'd kept the pace down at the beginning. Begs the question now: how far can I go?
Once I'm back at work I'm planning to run the 6km from the station once or twice a week as my regime and I'll probably vary the route a bit. It'll break up the cycling and it's one less day a week I'm risking my life on the bike.
Hmmm cross country. Dunno. Its muddy :p
Kate, did you do anything specific for marathon training or just increase your distance? I'm thinking that if I increase my distance by 1km a week, or 2km every other week then I'll hit the required amount in time for October.
Yes I followed a marathon training plan. Doing a marathon is so unlike training for any other distance, so I'd seriously suggest you find a plan and follow it, including any speed/hillwork suggested. You also need to do things like dropping your distance for rest weeks etc., or you'll burn yourself out.
Nutrition is important too, so read up on it. You'll need to start practicing fuelling up on the hoof with gels, energy drinks etc.
Try this as a starting point: http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/racing/big-marathon-index/813.html
Mine was customised and codged together from a few different training plans, but I followed it, ticked off my runs and it worked :)
Hmm ok. Had a quick look and there's a run a marathon in 16 week plan. 16 weeks? That seems awfully ambitious.
Hadn't considered gels, drinks etc. Makes sense as I'll be doing 4hr runs. Probably need a drink in there.
A year ago 5k seemed like a marathon. I could run for about 2 mins and the idea of running for 30 seemed crazy. So in a way I'm over the hard bit. I'm up to 16k and if I throw another 5 on its a half marathon, sounds easy. Maybe I'm being stupid but all I'm thinking is "Its just further, keep going." Maybe thats the confidence I need to do it or maybe its the thing that will kill me ;)
Seems RunKeeper does fitness classes. For $25 I can sign up for a beginner to marathon 16 week course. I'm assuming that integrates with the app as it has a course option. Could be handy.
http://runkeeper.com/fitness-class/running-marathon/9
RunKeeper Pro is free on iTunes at the moment in case anyone's interested. :)
Cheers Jen :) Never used anything like that as I have my Garmin which is far more accurate than my iPhone, but it might come in handy, especially as it's free :)
I'd highly recommend it. The stats tracking is awesome.
http://runkeeper.com/user/petemc/profile
Yeah it looks similar to the Garmin Connect utility that I use. Phone/3G reception is patchy in some of the areas I run around here, and the iPhone just loses whole chunks of a run sometimes. Garmin never does that though and it has the added bonus of being waterproof, shockproof and on my wrist so I can check what pace/distance I'm doing.
May give it a go though and compare it to my Garmin stats :)
Sounds good. The iPhone does have issues in cities with tall buildings. Been times when I've apparently ran through solid concrete ;)
Yeah it looks similar to the Garmin Connect utility that I use. Phone/3G reception is patchy in some of the areas I run around here, and the iPhone just loses whole chunks of a run sometimes. Garmin never does that though and it has the added bonus of being waterproof, shockproof and on my wrist so I can check what pace/distance I'm doing.
May give it a go though and compare it to my Garmin stats :)
Which one do you have, assuming it's one of the GPS things I was looking at? I was picking up a new pair of trainers over Xmas (omg it's so much better running in a new pair, legs didn't feel like death the day afterwards), and some running gloves which have yellow reflective bits and noticed the GPS watches display.
The Forerunner 305 looks like one of the most recommended out there and is on sale in various places? Just so fed up of trying to map my route on return especially if running in unknown areas / cross country, plus I never know if I'm going at the pace I want to be until I get back.
I'm doing 30-40 min runs 2-3 times a week at the moment. Seem to have kept it up a while. Have to admit, don't enjoy it really but it's keeping me fit! This may die down a bit soon due to doing ballet, burlesque and not having enough time!
Unless I'm running somewhere new or running to get somewhere, I don't really enjoy running by myself as much. It's much more fun with someone else.
The 305 is a great watch. Lots of people down the club have them. Mine is a 405, which has a touch bezel and is a sleeker design. The satellite reception is also supposed to be better. Never heard anyone complain about their 305 though and there are some good deals out there at the moment :-)
Running home from the station tonight. I have the choice of a fast 6km, a slower 13km or a much longer 15-16km that I haven't mapped out yet. I kind of want to do the 13km but I'm undecided because my left achilles and knee are twinging a little from cycling. I might just do the 6 because it won't tire my legs out enough to play on those too much. Maybe I'll keep the longer ones for next week onwards.
The 305 is a great watch. Lots of people down the club have them. Mine is a 405, which has a touch bezel and is a sleeker design. The satellite reception is also supposed to be better. Never heard anyone complain about their 305 though and there are some good deals out there at the moment :-)
Thanks! Just went to the local shop, they only do timex but it did look huuuuge. Unfortunately I hate touchscreens so am not sure the bezel thing would not drive me insane.
Do you know if it has some kind of backlight option?
Thanks! Just went to the local shop, they only do timex but it did look huuuuge. Unfortunately I hate touchscreens so am not sure the bezel thing would not drive me insane.
Do you know if it has some kind of backlight option?
It will definitely drive you insane. It drives me mad and I like the watch as a whole! :)
The 305 is pretty big, which is the main reason I went for the 405 because I have small wrists. It does have a backlight though, so you can check how far/fast/etc. when it's dark :)
Did the gruelling run last night from Clapham Junction -> Beckenham. Crystal Palace hill appears at about the 9th kilometre and is a 240ft ascent to the highest point in London (at 373 ft). Had to take a break at the top for some water. Legs are a bit sore today - gotta love that burn :D
Did the gruelling run last night from Clapham Junction -> Beckenham. Crystal Palace hill appears at about the 9th kilometre and is a 240ft ascent to the highest point in London (at 373 ft). Had to take a break at the top for some water. Legs are a bit sore today - gotta love that burn :D
I normally have a good 12 hours break after the 9th km :)
Cheers for the info lostkat, will let you know how I get on!
I've officially registered for the 2011 Liverpool marathon. Its the first in 20 odd years so it should be an incredible experience to take part in.
I watched the first part of Eddie Izzard Marathon Man the other day which was brilliant. Can't believe its not available on DVD though. So inspirational. He just goes off with about 6 weeks training and runs.
Wow dude, that's going to be incredible. I'm still in awe of anyone who can run that far!
Well I'm not as good as any of you yet, but I'm improving massively. From originally not being able to run to the end of the street, I can now jog round the block. Went for a longer run last week, but I think it was a bit too far as I really hurt my legs. I'm stretching properly and have lovely shoes, but I think I'm probably running a bit too impacty still, maybe due to my weight perhaps?
Unfortunately I start working evenings again this week so plan for the next few weeks is:
Mon - run
Tues - rest (work!)
Weds - rest (work!)
Thurs - Burlesque, yes it is a bit of a workout!
Fri - Run
Sat - rest, probably because I will be out, but also may get in some dance practice.
Sun - run
Sounds like it's going well Vix :) Take it easy and carry on with the stretches after your runs. You don't want to injure yourself. I really wouldn't worry about how you run because it's something that will develop and improve over time as you find your own natural style. Just keep at it!
Pete - Fantastic stuff!!! Do you have a training plan sorted yet? Eddie Izzard was a fantastic inspiration but PLEASE don't think you can run a marathon with just 6 weeks training :p :D Don't underestimate the challenge though. It sounds a bit strange but a marathon is so much more than just 2 half marathons. People often say that 20 miles is the halfway point in a marathon... and they'd be right! And to answer your previous comment, if you're up to 16k then a 16 week plan isn't overly ambitious. If you have longer to train though, you can just extend it out.
I've got about 9 weeks till the half marathon. I've got a training program that should be ok for that. Its not ideal as its a 16 week plan and I've skipped the first 3 weeks to get to the level I'm at now. I'm only going up to week 13 or so as that'll be when the half marathon is. But by then I should be at the required distance to run it. The training program has a 22km run in that week so I know I'll be able to run it. My pace is around 6:30/km and I'm hoping to finish in around 2:30.
I suppose the only real issue I've got is running with my gf. I want to train for the half marathon but also run with her. She had a foot injury through December so she's sticking to 5 - 7km runs for now. I plan to do 2 longer runs on my own then shorter runs with her. Hopefully that won't be an issue. I don't want to be selfish and lose what I enjoy most about running for the sake of a medal.
For the full marathon I'll start from scratch. This seems ok - http://runkeeper.com/fitness-class/running-marathon/9.
Ugh. I crashed and burned bigtime tonight.
I've been wanting to get my times down on my run home. If I run at normal pace I can do it in 25 minutes, take it easy and it's 30 minutes. I've been wanting to get that down to 20 minutes, which is a very keen time. I set off at a quick pace but by the end of the 1st km I was tired, end of 2nd km really feeling it and by the end of 3rd km (10 minutes) I had to stop and compose myself for a bit. Set off again and my rucksack was crushing my lungs, so I stopped and loosened it off, set off again and it got worse and worse and was sending pains down my sides and across my chest. By this point I was almost at a walking pace so I struggled round to the bus stop and got the bus the final km :(
I'm destroyed. Legs are knacked, headache, soul destroyed etc :p
Sometimes you just have a bad run. Put it behind you and try again another day :)
Got such a rotten hangover today. Despite not drinking last night...
I'm wondering if it might be a bit of illness coming on. Got a mouth ulcer which normally means I'm a bit run down, so I might not be in tip top shape for pushing my limits. I'll go out for a gentle one on Saturday.
Got such a rotten hangover today. Despite not drinking last night...
I'm wondering if it might be a bit of illness coming on. Got a mouth ulcer which normally means I'm a bit run down, so I might not be in tip top shape for pushing my limits. I'll go out for a gentle one on Saturday.
Sounds like a good plan to me :) Take it easy!
Still not got ill, I think I was just being crap :/
Same run tonight. Will be taking it at a sensible pace though :D
How'd it go Jonny? I'm hoping to go for a longer run Friday, had a couple of dubious ones of late but Monday's wasn't too bad (slow, but didn't feel like death).
Don't take this the wrong way anyone, but it's nice to see there are some people here who aren't complete superstars! Makes me slightly slightly more human - though it's also good to see people doing really well of course.
I didn't make it in the end. I finished work really late and was seriously stressed and tired. I'm annoyed at myself because I really wanted to run, but I know I wouldn't have enjoyed it!
How far are you planning to go? Slow that pace down and lap up a nice long route you don't normally do.
(Ok, I'm pining for a nice country run in the middle of nowhere now. Thanks for that :p :D)
I feel your pain, I've left work about 11pm before and run home, there wasn't anyone to give me a lift!
Am planning on 10 miles, for me that's substantial. Done it once before when I was doing 3.7 x 3 a week, now I'm doing 5.2 x 2 (x3 was giving me shin splints before xmas so cut it down) with more frequent sub-hour 10ks. Managed 01:39:29 last time, be nice to get a similar time but the focus is just not stopping - and where I live now is a little more hilly so we'll see.
13.15mi @ 02:10:55
-4C [-7C]
13.15mi @ 02:10:55
-4C [-7C]
Bloody brilliant! Well done :) When's the half marathon then? ;)
And did you get a GPS watch in the end?
Excellent run mate :) -4c, ouch!
Thanks both! I have a new appreciation for just how tough even that distance is, thinking about doubling it? That's insane!
I never thought I was going to finish for some time there, 4.5 miles I thought you know maybe it's possible as I was only going for 10. But managed to keep on somehow! It was extremely cold by the end, running gloves a lifesaver but after two hours I could have used something warmer.
Considering I never thought I'd be able to run for an hour let alone two maybe I do need to look into a half marathon, a flat one. I signed up for the runner world mag a week ago so will see what dates come up when that arrives. Got a fair few things on the calendar and summer doesn't appeal, maybe in the autumn.
I did get a watch! The FR305, been trying it out a bit and last night was the big test but too knackered to post much, could barely stand (need to work on this). It's great to be able to see speed - although as the reviews say this can be dubious - but the GPS signal is amazing, lost it for a few seconds for the first time tonight under an arch as I saw it say 0 but then it went to 11 for a few seconds so obviously righted itself. The overall time and distance is the best part though. Especially not having to try and map the most convoluted run I've ever done.
Am thinking of starting some minor intervals on a Wednesdays, starting with 10/8/10 for a 3 mile route home and seeing how that goes.
Try switching it to average pace instead. That's much more accurate and a better indication of how you're running :)
And why not sign up to a spring HM? You've already done the distance!!! :)
Well I've got quite a few other bits and pieces on at weekends and need to ensure I'm in reasonable condition for them, but it's also hard to get places from Warwick by myself. Don't have any good friends that locally - just colleagues and go-out-for-a-drink mates.
Given how smashed I was when I finished not sure driving home would work well, okay I had a bag on my back for the run and had walked 3 miles into work in the morning but without that I'd probably just drop a couple of mins off the time. Want to be sure I can do it and remain reasonably with it afterwards.
Average pace works well, think I'll play about with laps and maybe get it to show an average as I go for each mile, if I can get that. Did a 5.19mi one home today, was still quite stiff but kept it going (6.3 pretty constantly and obviously the further you go the harder it is to see if you've really slowing down) nd finished in 47:23, a pb for the route (hilly) with a sub 8 min mile finish.
Legs are much better now going up and down stairs. Giving blood tomorrow, that normally has a short term negative impact.
Yeah, I've had to quite donating blood whilst I'm marathon training as it just knocks me for 6. Really annoying.
Mine's on overall average pace, but every mile it tells me how quick I've just ran the last mile so I can keep check on my pace.
sub-8? Well done :)
3.13mi @ 25:02, I'm actually a little disappointed (especially as I mis-hit stop so it recorded 25:10). 08:36/07:36/08:06.
Hopefully I can do better when I've not given blood the day before (or find a flat route) :D Not been out for a 'fast' run for ages.
How is everyone else doing?! 7 weeks to go petemc? Got out for that run at a sensible speed yet Jonny69?
I'm doing good. Up to 7 miles or so on the training program. Its got me doing some shorter runs this week but then the next few weeks will jump up sharply.
Thing I'm finding really hard is running slow. Runkeeper says a fast is 11:00 to 11:20 pace per mile. Slow pace should be 12:10 to 12:30 or slower. I can't run that slow. Yesterdays run, which was meant to be slow, I did an average pace of 11:05. So my steady pace is their fast pace. Trying to run at their slow pace is like down to walking speed.
7 weeks to go petemc? Got out for that run at a sensible speed yet Jonny69?
Yep :)
Went out for about 5 or 6 km with a work colleague on Tuesday and was back on form. Really needed that run and she's talked me into a half marathon at some point, but not sure which one yet.
Also hit the road by bike last night to get to dinner round at another friend's place so got some calories burned on a nice hilly 17 mile ride, so I'm feeling nicely exercised again ;D
Hopefully the less cold dry weather will hold out for a bit so I can ride or run a bit of my commute again.
Thing I'm finding really hard is running slow. Runkeeper says a fast is 11:00 to 11:20 pace per mile. Slow pace should be 12:10 to 12:30 or slower. I can't run that slow. Yesterdays run, which was meant to be slow, I did an average pace of 11:05. So my steady pace is their fast pace. Trying to run at their slow pace is like down to walking speed.
I know what you mean, my first mile is nearly always < 10 mins despite trying to keep it slow to prevent burn-out at the end :confused: Maybe you can find a running partner who will slow you down? Or aim for a sub 5h (11*26.2) marathon ;D
Thought for a moment you'd run 17 miles Jonny :P The cold weather seems to be staying clear though I personally don't mind as long as it's not below -2C or so, but that wind is a bit of a pain.
I think a slow running partner would be someone walking :p
Very windy out there today and I'm doing my longest run for a good while. 10 miles today. Really windy.
I think a slow running partner would be someone walking :p
Very windy out there today and I'm doing my longest run for a good while. 10 miles today. Really windy.
The wind might help slow you down a little :) Or taking smaller strides? The other option is run like a maniac and then limp along doing 12min miles, probably not something I'd recommend. Do you have a GPS watch, bit of an outlay but set at average pace might make it easier to slow to 5mph.
I know it's bad to compare but I do get demoralised by people who I would normally consider much less fit than me hitting 63 min 7 milers, or the bloke who barely ever runs doing a 26 min 3 miles, or the ever helpful boss saying it should be easy to hit a 20 minute 5k. Hmmmm.
Pete, I pretty much ignored the pace for my long runs in my first marathon plan as it felt uncomfortable to run at such a slow speed. I ran to how I felt and it worked perfectly for me. As long as you can do the whole run at a fairly constant pace that feels comfortable and right for you, I wouldn't worry too much about what the numbers say :)
jmc - Why are you worried about what other people say they can do? Who are you doing this running thing for? There's always going to be someone faster than you, so you'll always end up demoralised if you think like that. You need to run for yourself. Sod everyone else! :)
Oh, forgot my update. Did my first "Fell Race" yesterday. 14 miles of tough, hilly cross country with 1200ft of ascent. I took it really easy because my calves were cramping up after a mile and I was worried I might have to drop out. Feel like I've run a bloody marathon today!!! Need to recover quick though as I have the Stamford Valentine's 30K (18.6 miles) this coming Sunday. ARGH!!!!!! :) All good fun though
I don't know how people run home from work - crazy!!! The boys at work do it though.
After nearly 3mths off from the gym, something possessed me to go for a straight 5k and I managed to do it in 31m 40 :D really pleased although:
a) am going to ache like a biatch tomorrow :p
and
b) I've set myself a high (for me) benchmark
Lol. See how we go... that was without choonage too - need to find the love for running!
BB x
I don't know how people run home from work - crazy!!! The boys at work do it though.
If I didn't I'd never have gotten the motivation to keep going. Once I walk in, I've got no choice! And if I've got to run 3 miles home, I find it much easier to motivate myself to run 5/6/whatever home!
I know, I'm just too competitive. Always have been. Good luck with the 30k (an insane distance) and BBx enjoy the pain! I had about 2 months off with a holiday and illness last year really suffered for a bit after that (had to walk for a bit after 20 minutes...) so well done.
Also, don't know if it'll help but I personally found a gentle run a couple of days after my long one really did wonders to loosen me up and I felt much better that evening / next day than I had the entire weekend.
camerajuan
08-02-2011, 00:08
Well, a little epiphany came over me so I now have something to aim for.
I'm doing the Spartan Race Sprint in October! Google it, watch some videos, then join me!
I cannot WAIT!
Ok, in order to get down to the weight I want (next target 11st), I am going to start running.
I just downloaded Runkeeper on the iPhone, and tomorrow or thursday I will start my routine, but I know you don't go off and run 2 miles at full pelt without stopping, I want to enjoy it as much (since I absolutely detest running lol), are there any guides to get me going?
Ok, in order to get down to the weight I want (next target 11st), I am going to start running.
I just downloaded Runkeeper on the iPhone, and tomorrow or thursday I will start my routine, but I know you don't go off and run 2 miles at full pelt without stopping, I want to enjoy it as much (since I absolutely detest running lol), are there any guides to get me going?
There is a nought to eight week guide on RW here http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/beginners/get-started-schedules/30.html, but personally I found it better to do it myself.
The theory is sound though, start off with walk/run/walk. I'd always start with 5 minutes walking to warm up, and then I did something like 2 mins gentle jog, 2 mins walk, 3 mins jog, 3 mins walk, 5/5, 3/3, 2/2, that's 35 mins including the warm up and I used to pretty much get most of the way home (just over 3 miles) in there I think.
One of my major problems was I always went too fast running (one of the main reasons I started was I went out, ran 7 mins, almost collapsed and wondered what had happened to me), took me ages to consistently slow down. So I eventually went from walking/jogging 5-6 times to all jogging without stopping (actually took about the same time as walk/jog/walk/jog etc...) when lostkat told me to just slow down and keep going. So that's my second piece of advice, keep it slow!
I'd also try and do something to keep motivated. In the past I always got home and couldn't face it, so started walking in then had limited choice! Eventually it becomes a habit but it's the first few months that it takes to get there that are hard - and most don't enjoy it that much at first. Also note you may put on a little weight (muscle) to start with, and your legs may ache afterwards for a day or so!
Finally, log your runs. Date, time, distance, how it felt, whatever you like (I also log weather, Fine/Dark/Wet/Windy and if it's +25 or -6), Runkeeper should definitely help here from what I know of it.
GOOD LUCK!
So that's my second piece of advice, keep it slow!
This. 100% :)
Good luck Mondo
Well, a little epiphany came over me so I now have something to aim for.
I'm doing the Spartan Race Sprint in October! Google it, watch some videos, then join me!
I cannot WAIT!
That looks like Blinding fun, but are they in the UK?
The UK has this though: http://www.toughguy.co.uk/index.php?option=com_jhshop&shoppage=DVD039s/Nettle-Warrior-&sort=p.price&order=DESC
THE NETTLE WARRIOR CHALLENGE! :D
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There's always going to be someone faster than you, so you'll always end up demoralised if you think like that. You need to run for yourself. Sod everyone else! :)
This! You guys and girls on here are far fitter and faster than me. I can manage a mile at the moment and that's it. But it's something and I'm pleased with myself. I might never run a marathon but at least I know I am becoming more fit and able each time I go for a run.
I know I am becoming more fit and able each time I go for a run.
This is such a satisfying feeling too :D
Great motivator to think if you don't go out, you're starting to waste that effort you put in on previous runs! :)
I can manage a mile at the moment and that's it.
That's quite a big hurdle in itself. Well done the Vix!
This! You guys and girls on here are far fitter and faster than me. I can manage a mile at the moment and that's it. But it's something and I'm pleased with myself. I might never run a marathon but at least I know I am becoming more fit and able each time I go for a run.
You're doing brilliantly, especially considering how bad the break in your leg was. Many people would use that as an excuse to never start running. Well done :-)
I ran the Stamford Valentine 30k (18.6 miles) today. I wasn't looking forward to it as I was much better prepared when I ran it this time last yr. However it felt really good. All my aches went away and I knocked 2.5 mins off last yrs time. 2:47:52 which is 9 min miles. Its really improved my confidence in myself. Next biggie is the Ashby 20 (miles) in just over a month. I did that at a faster pace than Stamford so I need to do some speedwork and hill work to prepare. Bring it on!! :)
Blimeh, well done :D
Regarding my broken leg, I see it as a way to build it back up, it's still fairly weak and that leg is smaller around the calf than the other so I just feel it needs to do something to work it back up. It sometimes hurts but nothing I can't handle. The flexibility in that ankle is back to 100% though which I never thought would happen! It was about 8% when I started physio!
Bit concerned at the moment as my left knee is cracking when weight is put on it so I've booked a docs appointment. I have a feeling I'll be back at the hospital but hopefully they will allow me to keep running. It doesn't hurt, or crack when I run, just going up and down stairs and doing exercises like squats. Eep!
My knees have cracked going up and down stairs for as long as I can remember. My dad's do too. I wouldn't worry unless it starts to give you pain but definitely go to the docs if you're worried :) sounds like you're already doing them but squats will help build the muscle up as will lunges
Woo woo go Vix :D
I'm pretty much jogging my postie rounds at the moment - which is all hills and steps. Absolute killer but 4 hours of it with anywhere between a 16kg and 24kg bag too has to be doing something to me.
Not been for a run the past week so wondering what will happen next time I do?! I might flyyyyyyyyyyyy my normal route! Who knows!
I ran the Stamford Valentine 30k (18.6 miles) today. I wasn't looking forward to it as I was much better prepared when I ran it this time last yr. However it felt really good. All my aches went away and I knocked 2.5 mins off last yrs time. 2:47:52 which is 9 min miles. Its really improved my confidence in myself. Next biggie is the Ashby 20 (miles) in just over a month. I did that at a faster pace than Stamford so I need to do some speedwork and hill work to prepare. Bring it on!! :)
Wow, way to go!
Bit concerned at the moment as my left knee is cracking when weight is put on it so I've booked a docs appointment. I have a feeling I'll be back at the hospital but hopefully they will allow me to keep running.
GL Vix, hope you get the all clear. And running/jogging a mile is still more than a lot of people!
Regarding my broken leg, I see it as a way to build it back up, it's still fairly weak and that leg is smaller around the calf than the other so I just feel it needs to do something to work it back up. It sometimes hurts but nothing I can't handle. The flexibility in that ankle is back to 100% though which I never thought would happen! It was about 8% when I started physio!
Good plan. Not only sensible but also comes with its benefits. Running increases bone density so if you've had a break or fracture it'll toughen it up at the same time. Also has its benefits later on because women are more prone to brittle bones later in life and improved now density is a good thing.
Bit concerned at the moment as my left knee is cracking when weight is put on it so I've booked a docs appointment. I have a feeling I'll be back at the hospital but hopefully they will allow me to keep running. It doesn't hurt, or crack when I run, just going up and down stairs and doing exercises like squats. Eep!
Both of mine click and have done since before I was running. The click is usually caused by a small flap on the cartilage, normally from an injury at some point. Definitely go and see the quack, but it's probably nothing to worry about.
If it's any consolation, my knee problems have gone away since I started running. I have a bad knee injury that was operated on in 2006 that gave me aching and stiffness problems ever since, but since building some support muscle round the knee I don't get any trouble from it at all.
Just pushed myself to do a half marathon. The last 3 miles were quite painful, more so than any run I've done. Its such a long distance as its basically all the 5k routes I used to do all at once! Its madness. Glad I did it though.
I'm now stuck in bed with my legs elevated as its the only way to relieve the pain. Hopefully I haven't done anything too silly there.
another 5k in the bag @ 31m 03
:D
bloody gym was busy tho! Too many single people in London village.
BB x
Just pushed myself to do a half marathon. The last 3 miles were quite painful, more so than any run I've done. Its such a long distance as its basically all the 5k routes I used to do all at once! Its madness. Glad I did it though.
I'm now stuck in bed with my legs elevated as its the only way to relieve the pain. Hopefully I haven't done anything too silly there.
Get yourself a big bag of tesco value frozen peas, wrap it in a towel and and apply to the aching area immediately after you've ran AND STRETCHED. The ice will help to take down the swelling and encourage blood to flow to the injured area to help repair it :)
Cheers :) I'm 90% ok now. Put my legs up for an hour in bed and it got easier. Finding it tough on stairs but no worse than any other time I've pushed myself. It was an interesting run though. Encountered a few issues I wasn't expecting. I guess the worst was blisters where there should be NO BLISTERS EVER!!!
I'm still quite shocked. No physical exercise for 15 years since school and within 18 months I'm able to run a half marathon. I know many people who've had injuries from training but for some reason I've been ok. Time was 2hrs 33.
We watched the final episode of Eddie Izzard's Marathon Man last night. The scene where he takes a 15 minute ice bath is harrowing stuff. I hope I never have to do that.
Cheers :) I'm 90% ok now. Put my legs up for an hour in bed and it got easier. Finding it tough on stairs but no worse than any other time I've pushed myself. It was an interesting run though. Encountered a few issues I wasn't expecting. I guess the worst was blisters where there should be NO BLISTERS EVER!!!
HAHAHAHA ;D One word - Bodyglide! It's absolutely brilliant stuff. I use it under the straps of my bra where it rubs if I'm doing long distance. Some blokes I know swear by it. I also smother my feet in vaseline every single time I run. That, coupled with 2 pairs of socks has my feet finally blister free :)
I'm still quite shocked. No physical exercise for 15 years since school and within 18 months I'm able to run a half marathon. I know many people who've had injuries from training but for some reason I've been ok. Time was 2hrs 33.
I think some people just have a good natural running gait which means that they aren't prone to injury. It also helps if you build yourself up gradually, which to be fair you have done. I wonder what your former self would have said if you'd told him a couple of years ago (before the weight loss) that he'd be running a half marathon :)
We watched the final episode of Eddie Izzard's Marathon Man last night. The scene where he takes a 15 minute ice bath is harrowing stuff. I hope I never have to do that.
Yes it's BLOODY painful (I had a cold bath... no ice, but jesus christ it hurt nonetheless), but it really really does work. My legs felt so much better the next day and you recover so much faster. It's definitely worth it after a marathon IMHO. When we get our bath plumbed in, I'll be doing those after super long runs. Otherwise, you lose too much time recovering.
You did really well Pete. I hope you're very proud of yourself :)
Bloody superb Pete- I can remember you posting about not bothering with exercise, not wanting to etc but now you're undertaking half marathons. It's brilliant to read about people's progression (EVERYONE in this thread), and very inspiring for me as someone who has motivational / consistency problems to see people achieving.
+1 bodyglide. After experiencing 'the rubs', you will never be without it (or vaseline) again!
Way to go Pete! My legs were absolutely dead for quite a while after, I did get out for a slow walk after two days and a slow jog after three which really helped though.
I'm really lucky, never had rubbing issues or gotten blisters. Yet anyway.
Nice one Pete. I'm getting roped into a half sometime this year so I've got all this to come ;D
We watched the final episode of Eddie Izzard's Marathon Man last night. The scene where he takes a 15 minute ice bath is harrowing stuff. I hope I never have to do that.
Aye, this was before I was doing any running at all and I winced when I watched it :shocked:
Right. Back on track tonight. 6k home in a sensible time, pressed on a bit near the end and feel like I've done a run :D
Was a few minutes off top pace, but I haven't been running or cycling much recently.
Blackmailing myself with doing 3km tonight & 2km tom morning or fri morning OR doing 5km tonight...
Which do u think won?
5km in 30m 47secs :/ after an hr of body pump too! :D
Gona ache like a biatch in the morn!
BB x
Got the all clear for my knee anyway :)
Half term this week so theoretically can get out for 4 nights, but I think that might be overdoing it! Do we recommend short runs more often or longer runs less often?
Mix of both. 1 longer run and 3 shorter runs :) Make sure you have a rest day after the longer one though.
In your case Vix I would stick with gentle runs and build up slowly. I would start with 2 runs per week of medium length (= medium length for you) until you feel you're strong enough to increase the intensity. This will really reduce your chance of injury in my opinion, especially on your ex-broken leg.
4 runs a week at this early stage seems like way too much to me.
Bah. Knee-caps are definitely feeling worse after longer runs now. Did 4 miles on Sunday and 8 miles yesterday. Feeling it today too. Walking around is a little bit harder than it should be. Maybe its because I was on a break from Thursday - Sat. Maybe I'm finding my limit and that I should go back to simple 3 mile runs.
31m and 15 secs today... after Body Combat and I really shouldn't have done it but I had junk food guilt :(
I pulled my side at pole yesterday as well so was taking it easy... though the exercise seem to have eased it a bit :)
Lets see if I can move from bed tomorrow morning :p
Hopefully I can sleep tonight as haven't been sleeping well in the last too days :(
BB x
The perfect ingredients for a run
Sleep: < 6 hours
Diet: Canteen curry, McDonalds, Pie, Chip and Peas
Weather: 11C (nice), wet to the point of flooding, and raining. Dark. Windy
Running with music for the first time really, having tried various devices without luck in the past. Took me a while to get into my stride and breathing but overall I think it helped, definitely felt more comfortable. If anyone is interested I can recommend the Phillips SHQ3000/10, they sit on rather than in my odd ears which means I can still hear traffic which is a major bonus.
Now, where I can get those 931 calories back from.
[Edit] Mile 2 time: 09:59.93, well it's under my target :P
I have the non-sporty version of those earphones and they're bloody brilliant! Had them for years. Didn't realise they did a waterproof, sweat resistant version too.
Well done by the way :)
I'm nursing a couple of what I can only describe as a few niggling injuries that are on the brink of happening, so I decided to skip the run this morning. I've had a puncture bonanza on the bikes and had to rely on the fixie for commuting, which is fun for a day or so, but starts to beat on the knees after a while. Got that 'runners knee' setting in if I'm not careful :/
I have the non-sporty version of those earphones and they're bloody brilliant! Had them for years. Didn't realise they did a waterproof, sweat resistant version too.
Well done by the way :)
Which ones have you got out of interest? I'm getting sick of mine pinging out of my ears when I'm running and it's time for some new ones...
I have 2 pairs of these (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-SHS8100-10-Earhook-Headphones/dp/B0038AK1YO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1299734928&sr=8-1), although mine were £8.99 when I had them. I'd still pay full price though. The earhooks are made of rubbery material which makes them very comfortable and the buds (comes with 3 sizes) go right into your ears. There is some play in them so you can get them to fit nicely. I can run for hours with them in. The "washable" sporty version are cheaper at the moment - here (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-SHQ3000-10-Headphones-Anti-Bacterial/dp/B0038AEZH8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1299734928&sr=8-2). I've run in the rain with mine on, but I expect I'll knacker them eventually so I quite like the idea of these. Good thing I'm not precious about the colour though! Haha
Cool, thanks for that recommendation. I borrowed her Sennheisers and they didn't try to jump out at all, so it's obviously the shape of my Sonys that are the problem. They are due for replacement, so I think I know what I'll replace them with now :)
I've picked out a couple of short routes locally so I can pop out for a swift one of an evening. Got a 4k with a bit of steep hilly stuff near the end and a flat 3.5k. Did the 3.5k tonight in 14 minutes which was a bit of a surprise. Wonder if I could keep that pace up for 10k with a bit of practice :evil:
Doubt it. But I'm still some way off the pace to win the 5k at work. I think the time to beat is about 17-18 minutes :shocked:
5km 29m 36secs :D
After Body Combat too and not feeling too well :/
Woot me though!
BB x
Well done guys. Keep at it. Jonny if you want to improve your speed have you thought of adding interval training to your routine? It's much more effective than just trying to run quicker each time.
Ashby 20 last weekend. 20 miles on Sunday. 2:58:17
Just under 2 mins slower than last yr but I'm well happy with that. Felt very comfortable too for what's an incredibly hilly race. Good practice for Windermere :)
Jonny: 17 (or 18) mins for a 5k is insanely fast!
lostcat: sounds like you are kicking down those 9min miles and on-track for a sub-4h marathon? Way to go!
I've been a bit ill (work overload) and then a cold so not been out since March 7th :s Pondering if I should try somthing shorter than my now semi-normal 8-9mi Friday. Hoped to get out last night but didn't finish til 9pm again so couldn't face it. 10 days off not what I wanted.
Jonny, yeah 17/18 mins is faaasssst. When we did the 5k Santa Dash we were at the start. There's a bit where the run loops back on itself and despite being at the start we were shocked to see this lone runner clearly half a km ahead of everyone else. He must have been pushing for 15 mins or so. For fun I've tried running at the pace and its insane. I can only sprint it for 30 secs or so.
A week on Sunday is my half marathon run. I've already done it once in training, but should have done a few more. To be honest I'm scared of that distance. I did 10 miles on Monday and it was a slog but nothing like the 13 I did the other month. Theres something about those last 3 miles that really gets to you. I'm going to do some small runs leading up to the main one. Quite scared but I'm hoping the atmosphere of the day spurs me on.
I've got a few things to sort before though. Gotta buy new running shoes. My old ones were rated for 500 miles, which I laughed at. As if I'd do 500 miles! I've done about 650 miles in them. So I need to get new ones and break them in before the run. Doing that tomorrow.
While I'm at the running shop I think I'll stock up on a few things. The main thing I'm curious about is gels. I've heard of them but I have no idea what they are or why I may need them. I go running with some jelly babies to keep me going. Seems to work.
Any other tips would be appreciated :) Aiming for 2:15-20.
Golden rule of marathon (and thus half marathon) running. Don't try anything new on race day. Your half is less than 2 weeks away, so don't go changing what you do dramatically. You should just about have enough time to break in new trainers, but if your current ones feel fine then stick to them. Mine old ones have done well over 500 miles, but they still feel OK and I ran the race on Saturday in them :) Don't buy any items of new clothing. Just wear what you're comfortable in. Oh, and don't forget to purchase some bodyglide to prevent unwanted chaifage!!! ;)
Gels basically contain the right amount of protein & carbohydrate to keep your muscles happy and fuelled on loooooooong runs so that you're able to run further and faster. They're just a more palatable way of eating on the hoof. Lots of people prefer jelly babies though, so stick to those :) You don't need gels for a half marathon anyway unless you're a serious athlete. I never bother with them for HM's. If you want to try a gel, they might give you one in your post-race pack at your HM. They usually do. Otherwise I can post you a couple of Lucozade ones. I've got millions of them!!!!
P.S. You will be BRILLIANT on the day. You'll be full of adrenaline and probably surprise yourself at how well you do. Just don't go off too fast, keep an eye on how quickly you're doing the miles (and SLOW DOWN if you're going too fast) and you'll be fine. In your first HM, it does get hard after 10 but you've done it before, you know what to expect and you can do the distance. Just keep telling yourself that and KEEP RUNNING. Very excited for you!!
My watch did something odd, the last bit (0.04miles) says my avg speed is 11.9 but my max is 11.6, bah. Okay so it's only 65m.
Managed 5mi in just over 44 mins today, happy especially given my legs were mashed after over nine miles Friday. Our canal has TEN locks in a row up past me - going up is fine, coming down, yeouch.
When's your half Pete? I've only really done over 10 one when I did my 13.1 and was virtually dead at the end. Even when I slow myself down those last three miles are terrible. Sure the fact that is was very cold helped in some ways.
29m 55secs last night...Did a better time when I was ill :/
Weird! Still at least it was sub 30! :D
BB x
29m 47 tonight :/
No music though...& running at 10km/h
which is fast for me ok :p?
BB x
Nothing wrong with 30 min 5k. I had some middle aged (mid 40s) prat at work claiming he ran 6min miles and did an 18min 5k. It's like so? What's your point?
I can't, and most of my 5k time are more like 30 mins (heck, lots are over), but I'm still fitter than I've been in a long time (probably most of the rest of the general population) and a heck of a less prone to heart problems and it helps me de-stress.
I HATE running with an abundance... but you cannot get away from it for an all over body workout and fat burner!!!
This time next month I will be on a beach in Marbella - bikini vision is my only motivation :p
Am already starting to see results though :)
BB x
I've ditched the cycling for a few weeks because it's clearly what's causing my injury. It seems to be at the top outside of my calf and makes my hamstring pull, then it makes my knee ache. I took a few days off the bike and it really aggravated it as soon as I started riding again. I'm doing some gentle runs at a slow pace as they seem to actually ease it off a bit and I'm going to do no cycling for the next two weeks.
Matblack
27-03-2011, 15:39
So I ran, well ran a bit walked a bit, ran a bit, my pace was 14min/mile which sounds a bit pathetic but I got off my arse and did it and I'm not dead, so I'll do it again.
I find it harder than cross training but it got me out of the house and apparently I burned 326 calories which is handy. Although I suspect more as it doesn't take into account the additional elevation for the footbridges, yes I know thats a bit pathetic but every little counts!
I felt like a might die afterwards but coming home and seeing Pete had completed his half marathon (well done Pete) has given me some inspiration and as I did 3km today I can't see why I shouldn't shoot for 5km without walking in the next 3 months and then build up to 10k within a year.
MB
Good going! Most people don't walk 14 min miles so you were definitely going well, and walking/jogging is defo the way to start. It's also great for calorie burning.
You may not find the 5-10k transition too bad (as long as you get used to 5k a few times), it's getting used to the rhythm and breathing etc... that are hard, if you keep it slow you might be suprised :)
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