Firefox3 + Winamp + Winamp toolbar = FAIL

[Stan_Lite]

I only recently installed Firefox 3 and decided that, since I'd had the Winamp toolbar installed on Firefox 2, I'd do the same for 3.

Everything working fine until last night. I was browsing away and decided I wanted to listen to some music. Fired up Winamp (my preferred music player) and stuck on some Jethro Tull, minimised and prepared to recommence browsing - Firefox crashes :huh:. Send report via the pop up window and start it up again - 5 seconds later and it crashes again. This happened several times so I just gave up as it was bed time anyway.

Decided to do the same tonight but the same thing happened (this time it was B.B King and Eric Clapton so it wasn't complaining about Jethro Tull :p). Eventually my slow mind started to make the connection. As long as I was using Winamp, Firefox would crash. As soon as I stopped using Winamp - browser was fine.

I was on a roll now so I wondered if perhaps the Winamp toolbar extension was causing the problem so I uninstalled it - et voilá, here I am posting here and listening to Altered Images at the same time.

Had a bit of a look around and it appears to be a known problem and people are recommending using Foxytunes to control Winamp until they get it sorted.

Not much point to this except to say. If you're running Firefox 3, don't bother with the Winamp toolbar extension for the moment. Haven't tried Foxytunes yet, will give it a go tomorrow.

[Garp]

Winamp = FAIL full stop. Used to be good (version 2) but then everything kinda went downhill from there :(

[Will]

I prefer winamp to windows media player and itunes. It seems to work fine for me? Ah I misread, I don't have the winamp toolbar!

[Burble]

Winamp version 5 is pretty good. Winamp 3 was a complete disaster.

The jury is still out for me on Firefox 3. I've got it on the Macbook but am not rushing to install it on the other machines and may end up going back to FF2.

[Mark]

Agreed. Winamp 3 was a complete and utter failure. The media engine wasn't broke, so they 'fixed' it, badly. The skinning engine did need work and that's the bit that survived.

Anyway, this doesn't surprise me. Firefox 3 is relatively new so it'll inevitably take some plugins a while to catch up. I've been using FF3 on the laptop since the early betas, and save for the fact they 'fixed' Alt+S (again :/) it's been fine. They also fixed the page scaling, which is better in some ways and worse in others. FF2 wasn't broken though so I never bothered updating this PC.

[LeperousDust]

Dunno winamp just seems stuck in the late 90's to me, it used to be really great. But there are better choices now days i think :) Anyways this isn't helping stan ;D

[Burble]

I don't remember saying that I was intending to help Stan :)

[Mark]

Dunno winamp just seems stuck in the late 90's to me, it used to be really great. But there are better choices now days i think :) Anyways this isn't helping stan ;D
It's because it's not MediaMonkey. There, I said it now. I know how much you were struggling not to mention it, so I just came out and saved you the trouble. :p :evil: ;D

[LeperousDust]

:lipsrsealed:
;D
I thought i did quite well?

[LeperousDust]

My internet isn't doing so well though :p

[Stan_Lite]

Winamp version 5 is pretty good. Winamp 3 was a complete disaster.

The jury is still out for me on Firefox 3. I've got it on the Macbook but am not rushing to install it on the other machines and may end up going back to FF2.

I'm happy enough with Winamp for music - although I still prefer WMP or Media Player Classic for video.

I tried some of the earlier FF3 betas and had trouble with random crashes so gave up on it and just recently installed the final build after going back to FF2. Seems to be working ok - apart from the Winamp thing. I'm a bit disappointed they've decided not to make Google Browser Sync work for FF3 though and I can't remember the name of the best alternative - anybody help me out?

[Burble]

Daz is using (or planning to use) Weave (http://labs.mozilla.com/projects/weave/). I use FoxMarks (http://www.foxmarks.com/) which only syncs your bookmarks but that's fine for me.

[Robert]

I'm currently in the Pogo beta...and it's ok. I doubt I'll ever use it when it's out though.

[Daz]

Daz is using (or planning to use) Weave (http://labs.mozilla.com/projects/weave/).
Indeed I am. I've not yet moved over from GBS yet though for 2 reasons: 1) their own server backend is obviously too small at the moment, so is slow, and is up and down all the time while they make changes. It's in pre-alpha so that's to be expected. You can of course host your own server but that brings me to 2) I've yet to decide how to set it up at home. Port 443 on my home IP address goes to IIS for Exchange ActiveSync - now I'd have no problem using IIS as the DAV backend, but the implementation in IIS6 is either broken or out of date (I forget which), so Weave wont work. I could use another port and bring that to Apache but for some reason I'm reluctant to do that.

I've looked at setting up DAV on the shared box dwuk is on but for some reason it just wouldn't work (need to talk to Beany about that actually). Ideally I'd have it hosted at home but I know Beany's box is secure (and I trust the guy), I have shell access to the box, and the server side data is encrypted anyway.

[Burble]

I've been meaning to setup DAV on one of my VM's. If I ever get my arse in gear and do it you're welcome to use it and see if Weave is the tool for you when it's running on decent hardware.

[Daz]

May well hold you to that :)

Oh, side note if anyone is planning your own server, make sure it's on SSL - authentication is only plain text at the moment.