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On this strange and varied journey we call life, I have come across somethings that I really just can't fathom out and ask why. Bit of a random thread but here goes
The Whole fuss about the Beatles
I wouldn't say that I am a music officiando or a ludite either but I just can't get my head around the whole fuss about The Beatles. Was music that bad in the 60's that they were the only saving grace. Maybe its a generation thing and my kids will say "Dad, Nirvana ????? Whats the big deal"
Garage Music
Following on from the Beatles, is it me or is it just noise.
American's who wear white socks.
Anyone who has been to the warmer parts of America may know what I mean. You can be walking round the theme parks, round the mall or just out and about and you see a whole family of Americans. Dressed up in the latest Abercrombie gear, looking all smart then the biggest pair of white sports socks you have ever seen. It just looks, well so uncool
Baseball
In a word Why ??? I really don't get the fuss
Old Folk who moan at young kids.
Again I really can't get my head around this. I run an under 7's football team and every Tuesday night there is some middle aged woman who comes onto the School field adjacent to her house claiming she will call the police, report us to the school and the council. Despite the fact we rent the field off the bloomin school as it is. They moan when kids go around in gangs and they moan when the kids get fat, now they moan if the kids do organised sport run by responsible adults. What I don't get is were these people born at the age of 45 and have no childhood at all ???:angry:
I'm sure there are things in life that you just can't get your head around or understand. Feel free to share your frustrations or confusions.
chumpychops
09-09-2008, 10:56
I think its something to do with different people having different opinions, or something.
Old Folk who moan at young kids.
Again I really can't get my head around this. I run an under 7's football team and every Tuesday night there is some middle aged woman who comes onto the School field adjacent to her house claiming she will call the police, report us to the school and the council. Despite the fact we rent the field off the bloomin school as it is. They moan when kids go around in gangs and they moan when the kids get fat, now they moan if the kids do organised sport run by responsible adults. What I don't get is were these people born at the age of 45 and have no childhood at all ???:angry:
I concur, old people should be rounded up and shot- would also solve the problem of pensions :evil:
The Beatles are OK and white socks used to be fashionable here, it's just how things go. I don't get flares but they come in and out of fashion. It's a shame that sparkley tight disco jeans and boob tubes have never really come back ;)
Baseball. Ahh, tell Americans that our schoolgirls play it and it's really called rounders. It gives them the hump.
Garage. I can't tell the difference between garage, house, and all that stuff. Sandstorm. What's that, garage, house, hippity hoppity, what? (but I like it).
leowyatt
09-09-2008, 11:03
Baseball. Ahh, tell Americans that our schoolgirls play it and it's really called rounders. It gives them the hump.
and tell them that Rugby is just American Football without padding ;D
Each to their own.
Personally I think the Beatles are fantastic and that house is complete and utter tosh.
It'd be a very, very dull world if we all liked and disliked the same things.
and tell them that Rugby is just American Football without padding ;D
Or Rugby for wusses as I call it.
leowyatt
09-09-2008, 11:07
Or Rugby for wusses as I call it.
that would work ;D
The Whole fuss about the Beatles
It's a different generation! I love the Beatles for their simplicity, their clarity and their voices. IMO they're the Oasis of yesterday.
Garage Music
Yeh... I don't get this. But then I don't get dance. Funny to watch people dance to it though and take the mickey out of them. But just... not my kind of thing.
American's who wear white socks.
*looks down at white socks.... tucks under chair* :o
Baseball
Same could be said about Rugby... after that's just a big bunch of hunk-a-chunks chasing up and down a field after a mis-shaped ball! But that's sport for you! A bit weird but special in their own little ways (Baseball has hotdogs and funny tight lumpy bummed trousers and caps and lots of good films about it!)
Old Folk who moan at young kids.
I guess that's a bad experience for you :( But don't apply it to all old people! Some have good reason too! Kids today can be little wotsits and deserve to be moaned at *shakes fist at nawty kids* Though there are a good lot of good'uns too IMO :)
I'm glad we don't all get certain things :) Who'd want to live in a world like Equilibrium?! (well BBx might but that's only so she could oogle at Christian Bale ;))
I haven't played baseball but I play in the Solent League for Softball (which is a lie, that ball is not at all soft), I'm not sure exactly what it is, but using baseball gloves is awesome, and once you can throw it well you really need them.
Also when you get a good hit and a home run, I guess it's a bit like golf, it's hard to be really really consistent, but those times you get it right... :)
semi-pro waster
09-09-2008, 11:32
The Whole fuss about the Beatles
I wouldn't say that I am a music officiando or a ludite either but I just can't get my head around the whole fuss about The Beatles. Was music that bad in the 60's that they were the only saving grace. Maybe its a generation thing and my kids will say "Dad, Nirvana ????? Whats the big deal"
They were a pop phenomenon, some of their music is timeless and classic, some is cheesy tosh but they changed the way music was viewed to a large degree. Hell they even had 'Beatlemania', films, dolls, people idolised them etc etc so if that doesn't suggest that there was something a bit special about them then I'm not sure what does. You don't have to like the music but I'd be surprised if most people didn't at least acknowledge they were fairly competent at what they did. They also had some pretty fantastic quotes such as (on being asked if Ringo Starr was the best drummer in the World): "..Ringo isn't even the best drummer in the Beatles.." or "We're bigger than Jesus". Quotes might not be exact but they are just from memory.
"Nirvana ????? Whats the big deal"
I pretty much say that myself.
I pretty much say that myself.
You...you ...you HEATHEN!!! :shocked: :p
Admiral Huddy
09-09-2008, 12:08
American Football ???
Why on earth they get all excited about making 10 yards, then bring a whole new team on, then have a break, then bring the other team back on.. .. then they have to have the padding etc to make them look tough.. Have the Amricans not ever seen Rubgy Union? .... And the obvious of course of why it's called Football when it isn't... The fact that they have cheer leaders is self admiting that it's so boring, the crowd needs waking up by a bunch of screamming school girls jumping around showing their knickers making older men watching feel like a bunch of pervs..
Daft!
Flibster
09-09-2008, 12:30
Or Rugby for wusses as I call it.
Had a couple of americans visit a few years ago when the 4 nations was on. They kept asking when the defensive team was coming on. :D
One chap broke a finger and they were all going on about 'oh, thats him out for a couple of weeks'
He ran to the edge of the pitch, taped his finger to the one next to it and went straight back on. They were horrified. :D
I pretty much say that myself.
Same here.
Kurt Cobain, the shandy of 'rock stars'
Really bitter and got no head.
American Football ???
the crowd needs waking up by a bunch of screamming school girls jumping around showing their knickers making older men watching feel like a bunch of pervs..
Whereas - you don't need that to feel like a perv? :p
chumpychops
09-09-2008, 12:43
Had a couple of americans visit a few years ago when the 4 nations was on.
Is this a new tournament?
Rugby... after that's just a big bunch of hunk-a-chunks chasing up and down
Now what is there to not like about that? ;)
Boys who wear jeans that are waaaay too big for them, so much so that they barely even stay up. They just make them look like little boys who aren't big enough to wear mens clothes yet.
.......my mind has gone strangely blank at the moment despite the fact I am normally a grumpy woman with loads to complain about ;D
Flibster
09-09-2008, 12:53
Is this a new tournament?
this is what you get when you're on the phone and typing at the same time. :o
Now what is there to not like about that? ;)
Boys who wear jeans that are waaaay too big for them, so much so that they barely even stay up. They just make them look like little boys who aren't big enough to wear mens clothes yet.
Rugby is for real men :D
As for jeans thats too big with there knock off ck/ben sherman pants its just horribe and makes them look like idiots :huh: just don't get it.
They also walk like they've a limp and with something up there.... :shocked: never mind.
What I hate is older women looking down there noses at young mum's :(
We're not all chavs and we don't all think our babies are little dolls and most of us are brilliant mums.
I should know I am one of them :p :D
Now what is there to not like about that? ;)
Boys who wear jeans that are waaaay too big for them, so much so that they barely even stay up. They just make them look like little boys who aren't big enough to wear mens clothes yet.
.......my mind has gone strangely blank at the moment despite the fact I am normally a grumpy woman with loads to complain about ;D
I find the skinny jeans thing just as bad. I mean, how uncomfortable must it be wearing skin tight jeans? These boys have legs as big as my wrists!
But what I reall don't get is 'baby on board' signs. Here's how I see it (correct me if you see things differently): you warn me you have a baby in your car, this indicates to me that I should somehow treat/react to you differently. As I am driving at the time, this implies that I should drive in a different (I assume more safe) manner than I would normally. So my driving is too dangerous for you but its alright for everyone else? Am I making any sense here? I'm very very tired today.
Or the Baby on Board signs when THERE'S NO BABY IN THE CAR!!
But what I reall don't get is 'baby on board' signs. Here's how I see it (correct me if you see things differently): you warn me you have a baby in your car, this indicates to me that I should somehow treat/react to you differently. As I am driving at the time, this implies that I should drive in a different (I assume more safe) manner than I would normally. So my driving is too dangerous for you but its alright for everyone else? Am I making any sense here? I'm very very tired today.
I thought baby on board signs are for emergency services to know you have a child in the car :confused:
I was told that you take it out of car (if you can) if you have accident and baby is out of the car.
If thats true then people do abuse it as they have ones saying bitch on board etc....
Flibster
09-09-2008, 13:27
Or the Baby on Board signs when THERE'S NO BABY IN THE CAR!!
Worse...
The powered by fairydust or princess on board ones...
chumpychops
09-09-2008, 13:30
Worse...
The powered by fairydust or princess on board ones...
I ram into cars like that on a point of principle. ****s.
I ram into cars like that on a point of principle. ****s.
Remind me to never drive round your home town :p
I used to have a bumper sticker that said 'Bitch in training on board' before my son came along ;D
Now what is there to not like about that? ;)
Absolutely nothing ;) I love it - if you watch rugby with me I'm in hysterics half the time! I particularly like the slow motion bits! Genius!
People who wear pyjamas and ugg boots to go shopping...
I dont get it because...
SURELY they arent the pyjamas they slept in... they MUST have put clean ones on to go out in...
So if they were getting dressed, why didnt they put real clothes on?!?!?!
Admiral Huddy
09-09-2008, 16:29
A fan then Huddy?? :D
:thumbsup:
that obvious eh?
People who wear pyjamas and ugg boots to go shopping...
Leaves quickly via back passage :D
People who wear pyjamas and ugg boots to go shopping...
I dont get it because...
SURELY they arent the pyjamas they slept in... they MUST have put clean ones on to go out in...
So if they were getting dressed, why didnt they put real clothes on?!?!?!
A friend of mine does actually where her PJs she slept in to go shopping occasionally, though usually only the small shops near her house / flat, not the main supermarket.
Idiots wearing 40" waist pants that have a 32" waist and have their boxers showing 4 inches above the waistband. I just wonder how many of them realise where that came from.
For those not in the know - it's from gansta prisons. It's to show that you're Bubba's b***h.
A friend of mine does actually where her PJs she slept in to go shopping occasionally, though usually only the small shops near her house / flat, not the main supermarket.
I have nipped to the corner shop in jeans, and my pyjamas top under my jacket...
BUT...
here, (i dont know if it is everywhere or just in manchester) you see girls in LUMINOUS pink pj bottoms, tucked into uggs, and a top.. at like 4pm or any time of day really, like not just morning.
walking round doing a full shop.
or standing at bus stops, or down the street.
I dont get it!
leowyatt
09-09-2008, 16:43
Idiots wearing 40" waist pants that have a 32" waist and have their boxers showing 4 inches above the waistband.
<Dennis Leary>
Pull up your pants
</Dennis Leary>
I have nipped to the corner shop in jeans, and my pyjamas top under my jacket...
BUT...
here, (i dont know if it is everywhere or just in manchester) you see girls in LUMINOUS pink pj bottoms, tucked into uggs, and a top.. at like 4pm or any time of day really, like not just morning.
walking round doing a full shop.
or standing at bus stops, or down the street.
I dont get it!
you've mentioned this before and tbh ive never seen it, must be some new craze amongst the kidz :huh:
G-MAN2004
09-09-2008, 19:33
Those idiots who wear their caps angled to the side. Also, people that spit in the street. Completely unnecessary. :/
Flibster
09-09-2008, 19:33
Oooh.. mobile phones blaring out **** music as they are walking down the street - get some headphones you posstots!
Even worse is where there's a group of them, and each phone is pumping out their own different garbage!
AboveTheSalt
09-09-2008, 19:36
Oooh.. mobile phones blaring out **** music as they are walking down the street - get some headphones you posstots!Now that is a scary thought - unaccompanied mobile phones loose on our streets.
Run for the hills, the invasion has started :shocked:
ChemicalKicks
09-09-2008, 19:39
The Whole fuss about the Beatles
I wouldn't say that I am a music officiando or a ludite either but I just can't get my head around the whole fuss about The Beatles. Was music that bad in the 60's that they were the only saving grace. Maybe its a generation thing and my kids will say "Dad, Nirvana ????? Whats the big deal"
The Beatles are a big pile of steaming **** to be quite fecken honest.
Nirvana on the other hand, love thm to bits, many a night I spent singing in the street screaming lyrics while off my head.[/quote]
Garage Music
Following on from the Beatles, is it me or is it just noise.
Disagree a bit. Some of it can be very melodic, most of it is as I described the beatles though.
American's who wear white socks.
Anyone who has been to the warmer parts of America may know what I mean. You can be walking round the theme parks, round the mall or just out and about and you see a whole family of Americans. Dressed up in the latest Abercrombie gear, looking all smart then the biggest pair of white sports socks you have ever seen. It just looks, well so uncool
I new some people in various working situations that wore white socks with black trousers, very off putting but good for taking the mick.
Baseball CRAP
Old Folk who moan at young kids. ALL YOUNG PEOPLE SHOULD BE SHOT, MYSELF INCLUDED.
Oooh.. mobile phones blaring out **** music as they are walking down the street - get some headphones you posstots!
Even worse is where there's a group of them, and each phone is pumping out their own different garbage!
Argh and people who do it on the bus!!
Oh and people who smoke at bus stops.... you are WAITING for the bus... why do you need to smoke when the bus will come any minute?!?
Argh and people who do it on the bus!!
Oh and people who smoke at bus stops.... you are WAITING for the bus... why do you need to smoke when the bus will come any minute?!?
Arghhhh kids playing music on the bus is really annoying especially when about 5 of them are playing different songs
Sparking up a cig is a way to guarantee a bus will arrive any second lol
Sparking up a cig is a way to guarantee a bus will arrive any second lol
Fair enough I guess,... but tis the way they seem to think it is ok to go and sit down next to children then do it!
Winds me up, I ended up telling someone off for it today.
Yeah that winds me up too :( I hate people smoking near my kiddies.
Yeah that winds me up too :( I hate people smoking near my kiddies.
I ended up getting someone thrown out of the bus station for it today.
it ANNOYS ME.
Argh and people who do it on the bus!!
Oh and people who smoke at bus stops.... you are WAITING for the bus... why do you need to smoke when the bus will come any minute?!?
as an ex smoker its usually to alleviate the boredom of waiting and also to feed the habit as you wont be allowed to smoke on the bus even though the trip will only last minutes
I havent smoked for about 3 yrs now and I now find myself hating people smoking in public places, it stinks and the smell always seems to stick to your clothes
theres a bingo hall up the road from me and at the intervals all the old biddies come out for a quick smoke, the street reeks of stale smoke (and oap pee ;D)
as an ex smoker its usually to alleviate the boredom of waiting and also to feed the habit as you wont be allowed to smoke on the bus even though the trip will only last minutes
I havent smoked for about 3 yrs now and I now find myself hating people smoking in public places, it stinks and the smell always seems to stick to your clothes
theres a bingo hall up the road from me and at the intervals all the old biddies come out for a quick smoke, the street reeks of stale smoke (and oap pee ;D)
I stopped smoking 2.5 years ago, and sometimes... just sometimes, I will walk past someone with a cigarette and think "oooh!"
And the other week at a party, my toothache was that bad, that I decided to have one. (What I thought ti would do for my toothache I dont know, because smoking certainly wouldnt have helped) But I changed my mind and gave it back before I lit it.
If people want to smoke whilst waiting for the bus, fine, but they shouldnt go and sit down on the seat next to a child and start smoking right next to them, its inconsiderate imo.
:)
AboveTheSalt
09-09-2008, 21:53
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If people want to smoke whilst waiting for the bus, fine, but they shouldnt go and sit down on the seat next to a child and start smoking right next to them, its inconsiderate imo.
:)I was under the impression that it has been against the law for quite some time for anyone to smoke on a bus, quite regardless of the age of the person seated next to them :dunno:
I was under the impression that it has been against the law for quite some time for anyone to smoke on a bus, quite regardless of the age of the person seated next to them :dunno:
it is.
Doesnt stop them though.
Thats why I ended up arguing today, It is even against the law to smoke in the bus station, but people still do it.
Pumpkinstew
10-09-2008, 00:36
I don't get...
the appeal of Mark 'Chappers' Chapman.
Renault Twingos
Big Brother
coffee Quality Street
cricket (5 DAYS and it's still a ****ing draw)
people who run in the rain (it's scientifically proven it gets you wetter than walking)
I don't get...
people who run in the rain (it's scientifically proven it gets you wetter than walking)
surely your going to get wet either way so it does'nt matter?
G-MAN2004
10-09-2008, 05:49
surely your going to get wet either way so it does'nt matter?
You can have a few less rain drops on you, it makes all the difference you know!
I don't get...
the appeal of Mark 'Chappers' Chapman.
Renault Twingos
Big Brother
coffee Quality Street
cricket (5 DAYS and it's still a ****ing draw)
people who run in the rain (it's scientifically proven it gets you wetter than walking)
Hehe, I concur with all of this apart from the running in the rain. I run in the rain, but not to get out of it to a dry place. I just prefer running in drizzle over running in the dry as it cools me down. I guess I'll feel different when it gets bloody cold :D
I also agree with Flibster about those bloody kids who walk around with their phones blaring out music. Some of them do it when they're on their own. EARPHONES??? No one wants to hear your emo tunezzz, kid.
Another thing I don't get is Art. I suspect this is more to do with my ignorance than anything else. I suppose the best way I can describe it is I can look at photo's and find them very moving and emotional. They capture a moment and a multitude of feelings and emotions. To me it's stimulating.
Yet I never feel the same urge to goto a gallery and view anything. About 8 years ago, Me & Sarah went to Paris for the weekend and did the usual tourist hot spots and inevitably we went into the Louvre and viewed The Mona Lisa. I must admit, I was very indifferent to it. And right at the other end of the scale what I really don't get are those pieces that are flecks of paint across a canvass that you would hear non arty types saying "My Six year old could do that"
Arghhhh kids playing music on the bus is really annoying especially when about 5 of them are playing different songs
My phone is louder than any cheap kiddies phone! Teenagers don't like trance!
Metalface Mark
10-09-2008, 08:58
I love baseball, i subscribe to mlb's online service which is fantastic, i can watch any game at work the next day.
The thing about baseball is its all about the statistics, its fantastic, much more interesting than cricket, and you have to take your hat off to guys who go out and play 150 odd games a year.
Baseball is one of the few sports where you can be crap and still be considered great. You only have to be successful 1/3rd of the time. Even some of the greats were only just better than 1/3rd!
Metalface Mark
10-09-2008, 11:15
Baseball is one of the few sports where you can be crap and still be considered great. You only have to be successful 1/3rd of the time. Even some of the greats were only just better than 1/3rd!
Look at footballers, most teams lose at least one goal a game, does that mean goalies are considered crap for not doing their jobs? Or strikers who dont score every time, should they be considered crap? Are golfers crap for not hitting a birdie every round?
Its no different to any other sport, every sport is the same.
Golfers manage to hit the ball every single round ;) Baseballers are more likely to get a strike than a hit, they only have to hit one third of the balls coming towards them!
I'm not being critical of the sport at all, it's just an amusing quirk of it.
Golfers manage to hit the ball every single round ;) Baseballers are more likely to get a strike than a hit, they only have to hit one third of the balls coming towards them!
I'm not being critical of the sport at all, it's just an amusing quirk of it.
1/3, as in you have 3 strikes? There's a fundamental difference between gold and baseball here, namely that in baseball the ball you're trying to hit is moving, pretty damn quick and depending on how it's thrown could move anywhere (knuckle ball).
Next time you play gold see how well you do with someone throwing the golf ball to you ;)
Admiral Huddy
10-09-2008, 12:03
Actually, I don't get why people smoke and what they get out of it? I tried it once, like you do, and nearly died.. I'm confussed by this.
I don't get why certain members of the London community feel that they are above queuing rules and push in at the bus stops.
BB x
People who can not alter their language and behaviour accordingly for the circumstance. People act differently when with different groups of people and thats fine, but some people seem completely incapable of doing it. They also don't even seem to understand why they should.
You know the sort.... You go to a restaurant on a Saturday lunchtime and the place is filled with families having a nice lunch. Mum, Dad, little kiddies and grand parents. Then a bunch of young people come in and sit at a table really close by being loud and lairy. All seemingly incapable of uttering at least one sentence without saying *******, ****, ******* and the like. Telling tales of how ******* hillarious it was seeing one of their mates spewing in the street or who ****** the ugliest ***** and had to run away before they woke up this morning. Commenting on how 'well ******* tasty' the food is.
I really don't get that. It's not like I never swear, but do these people not understand there is a line?
Mubs that is something that really bothers Faysh and I.
We get kids like that at the park and we tell them straight that its not on and that the C word infront of kids is out of order and they should know better.
FFS Its not big and its not clever.
We kept telling them to stop swearing in the park or we'd call police as there was loads of small kids and although Josh wouldn't repeat it I can't say that the other children wouldn't.
I know that Georgie would have as she isn't old enough to know its a bad word.
Anyways this girl said there is nothing the police can do its a free country.
So Faysh told them exactly what they would get charged with if police got involved.
made them shut up until we left park and a few decided to start swearing loudly and being idiots.
Iain got phone out and rang speaking clock lol and they ran faster than we could say boo lol
Kids today tut tut ;D
I dont get clothes sizes in shops and how they work them out.
How can u go in and try on a pair of jeans and it fit fine.
Tehn try on another pair, of the same brand, but slightly different style, and the SAME SIZE doesnt fit?
Its RUBBISH!
and annoying!
I dont get clothes sizes in shops and how they work them out.
How can u go in and try on a pair of jeans and it fit fine.
Tehn try on another pair, of the same brand, but slightly different style, and the SAME SIZE doesnt fit?
Its RUBBISH!
and annoying!
Just to rub salt in the wound. Went to Next after work as I needed some new jeans and they are the only ones that seem to fit me right. 3 different pairs, all the same size and they all fit the same :p
Just to rub salt in the wound. Went to Next after work as I needed some new jeans and they are the only ones that seem to fit me right. 3 different pairs, all the same size and they all fit the same :p
next is even gayer.
I dont care what the label says, the size they say it is isnt the size it is.
I'm just going to sulk :(
also.... another jeans gayness....
regular length that is too short, and long length that is almost too long.
:(
American Football ???
Why on earth they get all excited about making 10 yards, then bring a whole new team on, then have a break, then bring the other team back on.. .. then they have to have the padding etc to make them look tough.. Have the Amricans not ever seen Rubgy Union? .... And the obvious of course of why it's called Football when it isn't... The fact that they have cheer leaders is self admiting that it's so boring, the crowd needs waking up by a bunch of screamming school girls jumping around showing their knickers making older men watching feel like a bunch of pervs..
Daft!
Hmm, not sure I agree with you here!
American Football is only called American Football in the same way what we call Rugby is really called Rugby Football (and "football" is really Association Football, hence Soccer).
American Football tackles are SIGNIFICANTLY harder than Rugby tackles - if they didn't wear the padding they do, they wouldn't last a season. You just don't see the sort of tackles you see in AF in Rugby, its a totally different approach to stopping the ball.
The whole 4 teams thing is a bit strange to get your head around but it actually makes a lot of sense, AF is way, way more strategic and mentally challenging than Rugby, there are a vast number of plays and then variations on each of those plays and each team member needs to know exactly which one is being played and what to do. Its so complex that you need to be either one or the other, learning both would just be stupid.
I don't know if you've ever watched a full AF match (perhaps the Superbowl?) but if you did watch one with someone who knew what was going on you'd see it was actually a really, really good sport to watch - not perhaps for second-by-second drama but for the analytical parts of it and the last-second hail mary plays that really get you on the edge of your seat.
Golfers manage to hit the ball every single round ;)
You need to play golf with Picky and I... ;)
Knipples
11-09-2008, 08:13
Actually, I don't get why people smoke and what they get out of it? I tried it once, like you do, and nearly died.. I'm confussed by this.
I have this arguement with my brother and sister who both smoke. If I knew there was a chance that chocolate would give me lung cancer I would give it up in a heartbeat, but they dont seem to see the logic in it. Despite the fact that the health problems that my grandad had for the last 25 years of his life, which we three kids all had to witness, were due to smoking.
leowyatt
11-09-2008, 09:33
American Football tackles are SIGNIFICANTLY harder than Rugby tackles
I beg to differ, examples here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjonVhdvojQ&feature=related), here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pjs4jUM530&feature=related) and here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvMFHXcd0yQ).
The hits are harder in american football is because they have padding and wear helmets. You try headbutting a player full pelt in their chest without a helmet and you'll be lucky to not break your neck. American Football is a very much a burst sport, rugby requires stamina.
After watching some videos on youtube I'd say this is my favourite "big hit" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFV6G0QKF3E) which is similar to the AF style tackle. It's from the recent GB vs NZ RL test.
I have this arguement with my brother and sister who both smoke. If I knew there was a chance that chocolate would give me lung cancer I would give it up in a heartbeat, but they dont seem to see the logic in it. Despite the fact that the health problems that my grandad had for the last 25 years of his life, which we three kids all had to witness, were due to smoking.
Steven Fry (as an ex-smoker) comments that as there is no actual chemical benefit from it, it's tantamount to taking a turnip and hitting yourself on the head with it at regular intervals. Blessay (http://stephenfry.com/blog/?p=21) see the section "The Leaf Arrives"
Pumpkinstew
11-09-2008, 13:42
Gridiron v's rugby
This could easily fill a thread in the sports section so I'll stay brief to avoid a derailment. I've played both (all three if you consider Rugby league too)
Your argument about the padding used in AF is flawed. The tackles are harder because they use the padding - it encourages enthusiasm over good technique (players are actually trained to use the helmet to make contact with vulnerable areas such as the knee when tackling:shocked:).
Some players take part in defence and offence. Defensive teams rarely run set plays but react to the offensive play (although they can be set in variations like nickel, dime and blitz). Playing both sides of the coin would still only require memorising where you were meant to be for offensive plays.
I think the different teams are mainly about some players being able to catch and some players being able to tackle.
The skill levels in AF are astonishingly high, but it is less demanding on endurance and stamina due to the stop start nature and rotaing subs.
Rugby requires both extreme endurance and the ability to make split second decisions, an ability which is proven to be impaired by physical tiredness.
I seem to recall a variant of AF which used softer padding and the same players on the pitch at all times. Don't know what happened to it. I'd have loved to have a bash at it.
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