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Chuckles
20-09-2008, 16:46
Key features / improvements

21 megapixel CMOS sensor (very similar to the sensor in the EOS-1Ds Mark III)
Sensor dust reduction by vibration of filter
ISO 100 - 6400 calibrated range, ISO 50 - 25600 expansion (1Ds Mark III & 5D max ISO 3200)
Auto ISO (100 - 3200) in all modes except manual
3.9 frames per second continuous shooting
DIGIC 4 processor, new menus / interface as per the EOS 50D
Image processing features:
Highlight tone priority
Auto lighting optimizer (4 levels)
High ISO noise reduction (4 levels)
Lens peripheral illumination correction (vignetting correction)
RAW and SRAW1 (10 MP) / SRAW2 (5 MP)
RAW / JPEG selection made separately
Permanent display of ISO on both top plate and viewfinder displays
AF microadjustment (up to 20 lenses individually)
Three custom modes on command dial, Creative Auto mode
Image copyright metadata support
98% coverage viewfinder (0.71x magnification)
3.0" 920,000 dot LCD monitor with 'Clear View' cover / coatings, 170° viewing angle
Automatic LCD brightness adjustment (ambient light sensor)
Live view with three mode auto-focus (including face detection)
No mirror-flip for exposures in Live View if contrast detect AF selected
Movie recording in live view (1080p H.264 up to 12 minutes, VGA H.264 up to 24 mins per clip)
Two mode silent shooting (in live view)
New jump options in play mode
HDMI and standard composite (AV) video out
Full audio support: built-in mic and speaker, mic-in socket, audio-out over AV (although not HDMI)
IrPort (supports IR remote shutter release using optional RC1 / RC5 controllers)
UDMA CompactFlash support
New 1800 mAh battery with improved battery information / logging
New optional WFT-E4 WiFi / LAN / USB vertical grip
Water resistance: 10 mm rain in 3 minutes

/Wants :p

Matblack
20-09-2008, 17:21
UK: £ 2,299

:shocked:

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Desmo
20-09-2008, 17:30
Even I like the sound of that and i have no idea what most of it does :D

petemc
20-09-2008, 17:31
It'll probably be £2k when it comes out. The 1Ds is slightly more expensive at £4.5k. I'm looking at getting one when it comes out.

Mark
20-09-2008, 19:01
Interesting to see how the lines are disappearing in the camera world. A DSLR with live view and movie mode. Who'd have thunk it.

-J-
21-09-2008, 10:01
Even I like the sound of that and i have no idea what most of it does :D


heheh


I'm very tempted to buy one, if the IQ is proven to be anywhere near as good as my origional 5d then I will be upgrading, will probably import though to save a few $$$

Flibster
21-09-2008, 12:56
Surprised by the 21mp - was expecting the 16mp from the 1Ds MkII
The ISO range is very impressive, as long as it retains the ability of the 5d at high ISO 1600 - more noise would be acceptable above that really.

Full HD video is very surprising though. Was expecting VGA or 1280x720 really. Recording time is limited in length sadly, but could certainly be useful at times,

Not really surprised by much of the rest. Disappointed by some of it. Shame they've stuck to a low FPS and AF points - I suppose they couldn't really do much about this without impacting on the 1Ds MkIII sales substantially.

It's almost my ideal camera, but the 1Ds suits me more.

Bugger. :(

petemc
21-09-2008, 16:45
heheh


I'm very tempted to buy one, if the IQ is proven to be anywhere near as good as my origional 5d then I will be upgrading, will probably import though to save a few $$$

Anywhere near? From what I've seen its better. Useable ISO from 50-6400. ISO12,800 fine for b&w. ISO25,600 if you really need to. A leading photographer has pre-ordered 4 of them and says its going to change the industry. Vincent Laforet (http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008/09/20/something-very-interesting-is-comingboth-to-this-blog-and-to-our-industry/).

Jonny69
21-09-2008, 16:49
This may seem like an odd question but why would they limit the movie recording time?

petemc
21-09-2008, 16:50
Sensor would overheat and suffer from a mild case of deadness.

divine
21-09-2008, 16:52
Buffer size I expect... edit - or that ^^

As for changing the industry, with the respect to the video I could maybe see, but really, what does it have that is so mind blowing that it stands to revolutionise the entire photographic world? Lots of pixels and decent high ISO sensitivity?

petemc
21-09-2008, 16:56
I think its the video side of things. The guy picked up a 5dm2 with no manual and was able to produce a professional movie in 3 days.

divine
21-09-2008, 17:03
I see. Well, he said he owned a 5D from my quick skim read, so I would fully expect him to know most of the camera inside out already and from what i've picked up here and there, the movie mode isn't the most complex thing to use, it's very much just operating the camera 'as normal' but for a long time, if you see what I mean. Obviously videography techniques are going to be different to photography ones, but that's an aside that would affect any transition.

petemc
21-09-2008, 17:08
Yer I'd expect to be able to pickup a 5dm2 and use it too but the point was that he was able to just pick it up and produce something pretty good. Of course he's cheating since he threw $5,000 at the project and has some of the best lenses around.

divine
21-09-2008, 17:19
I'll be honest and say that I would expect a Pullitzer prize winning photographer to be able to make a decent video with a camera largely the same as one he's been using for the last 3 years.

I suspect the most major hurdles to overcome when transferring would be the techniques rather than equipment, I suspect if you gave a totally neutral person a 5DII and an HD video cam, they'd end up producing something largely similar.

-J-
21-09-2008, 17:37
Anywhere near? From what I've seen its better. Useable ISO from 50-6400. ISO12,800 fine for b&w. ISO25,600 if you really need to. A leading photographer has pre-ordered 4 of them and says its going to change the industry. Vincent Laforet (http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008/09/20/something-very-interesting-is-comingboth-to-this-blog-and-to-our-industry/).

most of the shots I've seen so far have been very clean upto iso 1600, above that the noise has gradually crept in and detail ever so slightly diminished . and like you say 12800 ok for b&w ,25600 being emergency only
I haven't seen any shots that make it stand out yet and make me go "woooooo nice" heheh , I want to see some nice shots with a wide tonal range,etc

I read vincentslaforet's blog yesterday, can't wait to see his footage and show what the 5dII can do


This may seem like an odd question but why would they limit the movie recording time?

I think its because of the filesize of 4gb, which is something to do with the filesystem (fat32) being limited to writing files that size

-J-
21-09-2008, 18:22
a little bit of Vincent Laforets footage

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not the best way to demo it but looks good

Mark
21-09-2008, 20:39
You can pick up 1080p camcorders now for sub-£200, but though the IQ is certainly usable on those I'll wager the 5D does a substantially better job - or at least it bloody well ought to. :)

petemc
21-09-2008, 20:48
I imagine it will. You only have to look at any of the best photos in the world to know how good the 5dm2's video will be.