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I'm after a new oven for my house and I don't really have a clue. I currently have a Beko electric oven which isn't fan assisted and is generally crap.
Now I'm after a gas hob and oven, ideally a floor standing unit which has the hob built in. Price wise as cheap as possible as it will be there for a couple of years at most until the kitchen is done :) Reason I'm asking for help is, are there dodgy makes in cookers? I won't buy Beko again as I know they are crap...... should I be looking for something in particular?
This (http://www.currys.co.uk/martprd/store/cur_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1507259601.122199936 6@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccdjadefejdkificflgceggdhhmdgmh.0&page=Product&fm=null&sm=null&tm=null&sku=719517&category_oid=-30563) is the duel fuel of what I have.
It is actually what I first ordered but because of electrical stuff they couldn't fit it :( But the plain gas version is great and I loves it :)
When I was looking around for an oven I can't say I remember being told of things to stay clear of, but it was a while ago.
Knipples
21-09-2008, 14:01
I have a neff fan oven, and its brilliant.
We have a belling cookcenter and it's pretty awesome (and huuuuuuuuuuuge!) Very shexay!!
I've been lucky enough to have been spoiled a bit for ovens and hobs in my time. Other than a diddy little cooker we had donkey yonks ago we've always been lucky to have a big range jobbys. I love them. Though for two - possibly not necessary as you don't utilise it all generally (great at christmas though and when entertaining!)
I have to admit... after having both electric and gas hobs/ovens in the past I think the best combo is electric fanned oven and gas hob. I've always found that electric fanned ovens always cook more evenly and doesn't tend to dry stuff out (sounds backwards but I know what I mean!) I am now slightly partial to belling hobs though. They are the mutts nuts! Rangemasters are quite legendary too in my estimates. :)
Other than that I canny offer much advice! Good luck :D
dmpoole says:
Avoid - Creda, Hotpoint, Indesit, Ariston & Cannon
Buy - Bosch
dmpoole says:
Avoid - Creda, Hotpoint, Indesit, Ariston & Cannon
Buy - Bosch
Gas or electric though?;)
dmpoole says:
Avoid - Creda, Hotpoint, Indesit, Ariston & Cannon
Buy - Bosch
Makes me want to buy creda, hotpoint, indesit, ariston or cannon tbh.
To be fair, as much as I ripped the piss out of him over the gas/electric thing, he did spend the best part of 30 years testing the things and i'm more than willing to take his word on the fact that those cookers are badly built heaps of crap.
More so due to the fact that him losing his job was because manufacture of those brands was being moved to Poland or something so they could be built even cheaper than they were already.
Induction :p
Didn't he invent that?
My advice gas hob, electric fan assisted double oven. Doubt you will get a free standing double oven though.
My advice gas hob, electric fan assisted double oven. Doubt you will get a free standing double oven though.
I have a free standing double oven. I'm speshul though.
I have a free standing double oven. I'm speshul though.
Yes.. yes you are..
*calls the men in white coats*
Quick gents, she's loose again, you know what happened last time!
Be nice or I'll drop the kids round :p
Hmm, thanks all. Its certainly given me something to think about, I haven't cooked with a electric fan oven in ages.
Be nice or I'll drop the kids round :p
:tak:
Be nice or I'll drop the kids round :p
That means have a poo doesn't it? :huh:
Or is that drop the kids off at the park?
I've had no problem with my Creda oven, but then I've hardly used it at all in the last several years. For me (on my own) it's usually far quicker and easier for me to use my fan-assisted combi microwave (and no, I don't zap everything to death :)). However, he does have a point about the move to Poland.
Anyway, I'll concur with everyone else - gas hob and electric oven is the way to go. I'll also concur with the idea of buying Bosch or Neff. They're certainly not cheap though so probably don't fit the spec in this case.
Makes me want to buy creda, hotpoint, indesit, ariston or cannon tbh.
Don't say I didn't warn you then :)
Just for the record I attended 100s of quality meetings for the above cookers (all made by Indesit) and management couldn't stop talking about Bosch and reaching their quality.
Indesit have got no chance now that those products are made in Poland.
Just before the place closed we had the Polish made ones in our QA and they were awful.
We thought the British made ones had cheap parts but the Polish ones were/are worse.
We even thought about calling in the authorities but also scared that we would lose what was fought for in our redundancy.
I know for absolute fact that cookers went out of the British factory that were a danger to the public.
Theres even an electronic model that I programmed with revision 33 software that actually worked.
All the 1000s of cookers that went out with R1 to 32 didn't work properly eg when turning on the double grill the single grill would come on and vice versa OR the numbers on the knob went from 1 to 4 but worked the opposite way round.
Its your money, make your decision, mine is Bosch because I never came across one in our QA that was faulty.
Thanks for your insight, I think that my washing machine is made by Indesit and that is rather dodgy as well.
Having seen the price of the Bosch ones I would certainly get one or Miele when my kitchen is done. However this seems overkill for a stop-gap oven for a couple of years.
Thanks for your insight, I think that my washing machine is made by Indesit and that is rather dodgy as well.
Having seen the price of the Bosch ones I would certainly get one or Miele when my kitchen is done. However this seems overkill for a stop-gap oven for a couple of years.
It was around 3 years ago when standards really started to drop and it was painful to see professional people nearly in tears being told that stuff had to go through the door.
100s of people left because they saw the writing on the wall and how right they were.
Some would say I'm perhaps a bitter man but I'm being serious about the quality of this stuff.
Don't buy anything on this list - Indesit rubbish (http://www.disturbinthepeace.co.uk/pics3/cookerporn.xls)
Is Indesit really a rubbish make :(
I just bought a Fridge Freezer and looking to get a Washing machine.
BB x
Well that must cover most of the range. From looking at the sheet this appears to be a quality control record detailing faults on individual cookers?
Is Indesit really a rubbish make :(
I just bought a Fridge Freezer and looking to get a Washing machine.
BB x
I believe that a lot of different manufacturers of fridge freezers are made with the same components from the same place so your Indesit will be just as good as a lot of others.
Fridge freezers were not my area of expertise.
Well that must cover most of the range. From looking at the sheet this appears to be a quality control record detailing faults on individual cookers?
This was my Cooker Bible that I made and went all over the world.
Basically we made that many different varieties with different colours that we needed some way of visually tracking what they looked like.
Individual cooker test sheets looked like this - C60GTX (http://www.disturbinthepeace.co.uk/pics3/c60gtx.xls)
My last two fridge freezers were Hotpoint and Indesit. Actually I had two Hotpoints as the first suffered a fan failure within weeks, but to their credit it was exchanged very quickly. Last purchase was well over three years ago. Creda cooker purchase was well over three years ago too so I have little experience with the modern stuff.
I've heard bad things about the likes of Indesit and Servis washing machines - not recently mind. Hotpoint have had shaky times in the past too (they were once famous for shredding clothes).
In the end though most brands, save the high-end ones (Bosch, Miele, etc.) started their lives in one of a very few factories, and they don't make them to last anymore.
As an ex kitchen fitter I have to agree that Bosch is the way to go.
The number of other cookers I had to replace 3-4 times was just ridiculous. Bit's would fall off, the wires weren't connected inside the units... it was just a nightmare,
I guess in the 3 years I did it I probably only had 2-3 Bosch cookers that needed fixing. :thumbup:
They may be a bit more but if it saves you faffing around trying to get it fixed in 2 months then it's worth paying for.
The number of other cookers I had to replace 3-4 times was just ridiculous. Bit's would fall off, the wires weren't connected inside the units... it was just a nightmare,
There are set rules for checking Domestic Appliances in factories but when the Italians came they flouted every one.
Very slowly once proud people were reduced to not giving a damn about the product in front of them.
Inspectors & testers were given ludicrous workloads so that they couldn't do their normal jobs and virtually all products went through the door without being tested properly.
You wouldn't believe some of the stuff that came through my hands that would have gone to the public eg gas pipes that weren't connected which could cause serious damage in a house.
Indesit had a policy that most people don't complain and will put up with faults, if not just send somebody out.
I went to a meeting where they were saving 60 million Euros a year by giving suppliers unrealistic orders so they ended up paying or by paying the suppliers months later and pocketing the interest.
It only cost 14 million Euros to repair faulty cookers so they were millions of Euros in profit.
The 14 factories also had quality competitions around the world.
I had access to the other companies scores and my orders were to make sure we were always above them using whatever means.
I could have no more than 2 faults a week even though the first 30 mins produced that many.
I would have to make phone calls to line managers saying things like "Hi Brian, I'm going for a break and I have one of your cookers where the oven doesn't want to play with me" and when I returned it would magically be fixed.
Stay away from Creda, Hotpoint, Cannon, Indesit & Ariston because Poland have no quality at all.
Stay away from Creda, Hotpoint, Cannon, Indesit
To tru. wouldn't touch these with a barge poll, unless they are cheape enough to change every 12months when tehy break on you and even then you would be lucky to last to 12 months.
After parents owning a hotpoint washing machine and a creda oven. There qaulity is frankly abysmal. With both spending more time out of action than in and I mean literally.
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