View Full Version : Far Cry 2
NokkonWud
25-10-2008, 17:59
Has anyone else picked this up? I got it yesterday after trading in some games but held off playing last night at the LAN due to dodgy electrics and Internet, but today has been much more solid, so I've just given it a spin.
Only had 2 rounds in Multiplayer which I thought was much better than the offerings of Far Cry and Far Cry Instincts, so that's a positive. It's actually pretty bloody hard and sadly levels weapons in a way that the more you play the much better your guns, at the moment it's obviously not that bad, but coming in late it could cause real problems - if people come to it, which I doubt given that Gears of War 2 and Call of Duty 5 are just around the corner.
Just started the SP campaign, was surprised to see you get to choose a character from a set of 8, all of which sound quite interesting but I don't think have any difference on the story of the game - I'm sure I'll find out, but I doubt it. Game starts much in the same way as Call of Duty 4, a long drive in a car - except you're in Africa :p.
One thing that has stood out so far is the music, it's very good so far. A great score.
Any who, back to the game...
LeperousDust
25-10-2008, 18:45
I wouldn't mind playing this, really enjoyed the original, sadly my laptop won't be upto it since i don't use my computer anymore (and that won't be up to it either anyway!). I'm sure it'll be good though :)
Was in two minds about whether to buy this so I "ahem" downloaded a copy of it to try first.
Glad I did - hated it!
Not sure what it is but I found the control system really "weird". Couldn't gel with it at all and the movement just didn't feel right. Can't quite put my finger on it.
Reading over on the OcUK forums, looks like an awful lot of people are very unimpressed with this game and there are a lot of copies for sale already.
the movement just didn't feel right. Can't quite put my finger on it.
If you play a widescreen res on PC, the way they've implemented it gives an odd field of view, like the camera is hovering a foot in front of your face.
NokkonWud
25-10-2008, 20:41
Played a bit more and it's quite impressive really. Graphically it's rather incredible what they've managed. Comparing it to the PC version running on an 8800GTX there isn't much in it at all.
I can see why some wouldn't like it, but I can also see why some would really like it. The only issue I see people having is that they want a game to play just like FarCry and it doesn't. It feels a totally different game.
I do really like the environment though. Better than I though so far.
Streeteh
26-10-2008, 20:03
Potentially excellent game marred by overly agressive AI with the ability to reincarnate themselves after you leave an area. I hate the fact you'll wipe out an outpost only to go back to it 15 mins later to find it full of baddies again, also EVERYONE seems to hate you for no particular reason.
NokkonWud
26-10-2008, 21:19
I noticed that on a friends game. He was driving down a road and someone started shooting at him for no reason.
Streeteh
26-10-2008, 21:23
Towards the end of the game they ramp up the strength and amount of enemies all over the map. The result is one of the most agonizingly annoying and stressful gaming moments i have ever seen, drive half a mile, get your engine gasket shot out, jump out and fight the baddies, fix the car with your magic wrench, continue for another half mile, repeat.
Marmoset
27-10-2008, 16:09
Not sure what it is but I found the control system really "weird". Couldn't gel with it at all and the movement just didn't feel right. Can't quite put my finger on it.
Exactly what I thought. I've got it on PC and the controls just don't respond as I'd expect them to. I've tried adjusting all of the settings but it just doesn't feel right.
Also, the gameplay just isn't drawing me in. :confused: Gutted as I was really looking forward to this.
NokkonWud
31-10-2008, 12:25
The more I play of this the more I am absolutely blown away by the visuals and the effects. It's without a doubt the finest shadowing I've seen, though HDR is perhaps overplayed a bit.
The downside of the graphics being so freaking good is that spotting enemies is almost impossible at times til they shoot at you. Thankfully it seems to work the other way too, I walked through the jungle as 2 enemies were walking down a path and I got within 3 feet of them without them seeing me where I took them out with 1 shot to the head each.
The effects of this game are brilliant too, I threw a grenade at an enemy vehicle and it landed underneath, blew the jeep over and over a few enemies, it looked amazing.
I was really looking forward to this but the more I hear of constant long winded travelling with 'random' encounters every 50 yards, of clearing out areas only to have them repopulate 5 minutes later and insta death jeeps running out of the jungle the more I'm really put off. It sounds like it could have been amazing but a couple of very poor design decisions have ruined the experience.
NokkonWud
31-10-2008, 12:50
The travelling is long-winded, but no more so than it is in all the RPG's you love, it's small compared to Oblivion for example.
Areas do re-populate, which is a shame and good in equal measures (a shame because it's not easy, good because you'd get bored of nothing).
I've never had a lot of encounters in a row though, but I'm not far into it.
Let us not forget, amongst those reports you've read, many from the public but the media have been giving it 5 stars here and there, 90%+ scores etc... It's far from the bad game some people would point it out at.
It also seems to mainly be the PC gamers that are slagging it which I don't understand, it's actually one of the best FPS games I've played this year.
The travelling is long-winded, but no more so than it is in all the RPG's you love, it's small compared to Oblivion for example.
Areas do re-populate, which is a shame and good in equal measures (a shame because it's not easy, good because you'd get bored of nothing).
I've never had a lot of encounters in a row though, but I'm not far into it.
Let us not forget, amongst those reports you've read, many from the public but the media have been giving it 5 stars here and there, 90%+ scores etc... It's far from the bad game some people would point it out at.
It also seems to mainly be the PC gamers that are slagging it which I don't understand, it's actually one of the best FPS games I've played this year.
That's reassuring to hear though I'm still not 100% sold.
How hard is it? Are there multiple difficulty settings and if so what are you playing on?
Admiral Huddy
31-10-2008, 13:27
It's next on my wish list after BIA:Hell's Highway.
Really looking foward to this. Been an awesome year for games :
Streeteh
31-10-2008, 13:33
It certainly isn't the worst game ever like some people like to day in the PC gaming section over at OCUK, it's just imo far more average than many other games that have recently come out.
NokkonWud
31-10-2008, 13:43
That's reassuring to hear though I'm still not 100% sold.
How hard is it? Are there multiple difficulty settings and if so what are you playing on?
There are 4 difficulty settings ranging from Easy to the Hardest difficulty. I started the game on Hardcore, the 3rd of the 4 difficulties and got myself shot to pieces rather quickly, I had a friend come around for a quick blast, he started on Easy and overwrote my save accidentally, so I'm playing on that now and rather embarrassingly I'm still finding it bloody difficult, but in a good way.
I've just blown a bridge up with a jeep underneath and above full of munitions and the explosion was :shocked::shocked:, it was fantastic.
There are some cool little things you can do, like sprint full tilt when in a firefight and by pressing B you can slide behind cover - it works fantastically in multiplayer.
It also has a map builder where you can make and share maps in Multiplayer which is a great little feature and something more games should have, I'm gonna give it a real good going over a bit later when I have chance.
NokkonWud
31-10-2008, 13:44
It certainly isn't the worst game ever like some people like to day in the PC gaming section over at OCUK, it's just imo far more average than many other games that have recently come out.
I can't think of many better FPS games released this year aside from Bioshock on the PS3 obviously :p.
NokkonWud
31-10-2008, 14:52
Juts had a go of the level editor and it's incredible! Anything you can think of you can quite literally do, it's absolutely mind boggling how they've managed to get it working on consoles.
I knocked up some buildings, a few roads, put a stormy weather in, added some birds flying around, mounted guns, explosive barrels, kitted out some of the buildings with interiors, added mountains around the outside, ammo caches, spawn points, death cams etc... all in 30 minutes. You get dropped into it to run around just by pressing the back button too.
There's a validate option which stops stuff being broken but it works incredibly, incredibly well.
I think what has annoyed people is it just so unpolished and unfinished feeling. The PC version for example, you can't remap the control properly, it still has the 'consonely' save points everywhere even though you don't need them, the AI is pants (get a mission off someone, walk outside and they shoot you or plant remote explosives one side of an outpost, sneak to the other, detonate the explosives yet they all suddenly know where you are as if by magic), it's very empty, yet as you progress it gets hard to even move 50ft down a road without getting shot at your jeep damaged, everyone is hostile to you, kill everyone at a checkpoint, drive 20 seconds up the road and then go back and everyone is alive again, etc. etc.
Just so many small niggly things wrong with it.
Streeteh
31-10-2008, 15:39
I can't think of many better FPS games released this year aside from Bioshock on the PS3 obviously :p.
On consoles, no there haven't been any better FPS', but there's been loads of better games. It's been quite a dry year for FPS imo anyway. It just isn't a game for me as i hate doing the same thing twice. The missions to unlock new weapons are all exactly the same, it was great the first time, race over to the other side of the map and blow up a truck, but after you've done this 4 times it gets dull, fast.
They've put loads of effort into the world you play within but the missions etc all feel like a bit of an afterthought.
[EDIT] It's worth adding i haven't given it as much time as i normally would in a quieter period of the year. As i say there are games out atm that are just better imo such as Dead Space which i'm completely addicted to. When i've run out of games i'll come back to this but until then its sitting on the shelf.
NokkonWud
31-10-2008, 15:41
It does feel quite consoley (not surprising as that's the primary format for almost all games now), but that doesn't bother me because I'm playing on a console.
It's also one of the best looking games I've ever seen, everyone should experience the daylight system in it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dknjjHNiApg
NokkonWud
01-11-2008, 02:34
lol, I've encountered a lot of those bar the animals dying. I've hit them full-tilt and they don't die.
However that list started to lose satire and just became a hating on the game which is undue.
I am sounding negative recently, however I've installed this finally and thought to give it a go. It looks damn good, simple things like crouching in the fields, the fire spreading and changing from night to day.
However gameplay wise I'm finding it boring. The AI is damn weird as well as everyone has commented. They can hit you with a shotgun across a valley from the other end of a bridge! There are a lot of issues, one being a lack of interaction so you don't feel involved. You speak to a guy for a mission and then do not speak to anyone until you complete the mission.
This is something I was looking forward to as the vids looked great and reviews were good. It seems I'm not the only one having read this thread and OCUK.
NokkonWud
08-11-2008, 02:59
Could be the marmite game of 2008.
Could be the marmite game of 2008.
:D
Admiral Huddy
03-12-2008, 12:23
Started playing this a few weeks back. FarCry 2 is a beautiful, seamless, and ground breaking FPS game but is it me or are the missions a little lame and pointless? I've just spent an hour driving around vast landscapes doing free favors for a South African mercenary but for what reason? After I rescued his sorry arse from a plane crash he then says "thanks now piss off"... in no uncertain terms. Then I have no mission apart from go and find a mission.. What game have you ever played where you have no missions or a mission to find one?? That's just daft as a loo brush. Anyway, I take advantage of this by taking missions from the gun shop in order to obtain weapon upgrades. You can only do this when you have no missions. What got me in stitches is that the mini missions involve destroying a competitors shipment convoy but all these convoys go round and round in the same circles.. haha
Another thing that has bugged me a little is all your effort taken to scout for and capturing points, is reward to return 5 minutes later with all the enemies you destroyed re-spawned like the living dead?? Whilst on this subject, how come they know I’m an enemy? I could be the Snax-Wagon?
This is such a gorgeous game though, but after the first hours, who actually notices the high def graphics and all the eye candy detail once you're blasting your way round the map? For those that think game play isn't important, you're wrong. Portal was one of the biggest games in 2007 because of it's pure intuitive and original game play. Lessons to be learnt?
You say it's ground breaking and then trash it ;D
Streeteh
03-12-2008, 13:13
You say it's ground breaking and then trash it ;D
The guillotine was ground breaking but i wouldn't say it was a good thing :p
Flibster
03-12-2008, 13:26
I'm running the PC version of FC2, and engine wise, it's superb. The fire effects are the best I've seen in a game. With everything turned up it chugs a little, but looks wonderful. The ability to destroy the ammo crates is a nice touch, with the explosive one going up with an almighty boom, and the rounds cooking in the others. The rocket behaviour of the gas cylinders is another great thing to watch.
But, it's the gameplay that lets it down. Why have safe houses where you can save your game... and then also allow you to save anywhere you want?
As stated earlier in this thread, the enemies accuracy with weapons is rediculous, the re-spawn... Oh the respawn :( Oh, and how come their trucks are faster than mine? So I can't outrun them :(
The missions are go here, kill this person or get this item, and come back. Thats it - no variation at all really.
Once you have the dart gun, the MP5SD and the M79, it all becomes a little easy too.
Nice try, but falls down on the gameplay sadly. :(
Admiral Huddy
03-12-2008, 13:48
You say it's ground breaking and then trash it ;D
No I'm saying its technolgy is ground breaking but it has no beef. :p
NokkonWud
04-12-2008, 01:04
But, it's the gameplay that lets it down. Why have safe houses where you can save your game... and then also allow you to save anywhere you want?
IT doesn't on consoles. You have to use the safe houses.
The game itself is great, but let down massively by the re-spawning of enemies so soon after you killed them. It should take around 2 or 3 full day cycles and it would have been fine.
Admiral Huddy
04-12-2008, 13:21
The game itself is great, but let down massively by the re-spawning of enemies so soon after you killed them. It should take around 2 or 3 full day cycles and it would have been fine.
yep you are not wrong - i think this would have made a big difference.
But, it's the gameplay that lets it down. Why have safe houses where you can save your game... and then also allow you to save anywhere you want?
Because it's yet another lazy console to PC port that hasn't been done properly, just in out bish bosh get it sold job.
NokkonWud
04-12-2008, 17:20
Sadly that's how it will be more often than not.
Just seen on cex.co.uk they'll give £36 for the tin exchange...
So tempted to not even bother opening it and just trade it in for Prince of Persia (or just get an exchange note for now....) .. or even get Left 4 Dead or Dead Space... hmmmm...
Hmm, set the game to normal difficulty and it takes at least 3 head shots from an ak47 to kill a bad guy WTF
NokkonWud
05-12-2008, 20:17
Are you sure you're definitely getting them in the head being that auto-aim is set to the chest?
Only takes one hit here.
NokkonWud
05-12-2008, 20:17
Just seen on cex.co.uk they'll give £36 for the tin exchange...
So tempted to not even bother opening it and just trade it in for Prince of Persia (or just get an exchange note for now....) .. or even get Left 4 Dead or Dead Space... hmmmm...
Do it and get Left 4 Dead.
FarCry 2 can be had cheap several places now.
Was actually just thinking the same thing. Can get total of £60 exchange for Far Cry 2 Tin and SWFU. But then don't know what I'd get instead. Maybe MKvsDC and a second controller.
Are there any easy and quick achievements to be had in either game before I get rid of them?
Davey_Pitch
06-12-2008, 13:47
Are there any easy and quick achievements to be had in either game before I get rid of them?
With a guide you can complete the game and get around 500 points or so in about 6 hours. I enjoyed it so if you've got the time to spare I'd recommend going through it :)
With a guide you can complete the game and get around 500 points or so in about 6 hours. I enjoyed it so if you've got the time to spare I'd recommend going through it :)
Really? I'd read that to 'complete' the game it would take nearer 100 hours which was putting me off...
I might have do as you've said and play through the campaign first. Cheers.
Just seen on cex.co.uk they'll give £36 for the tin exchange...
So tempted to not even bother opening it and just trade it in for Prince of Persia (or just get an exchange note for now....) .. or even get Left 4 Dead or Dead Space... hmmmm...
£30 mate, just been to town and they gave me £30 cash for it, like talking candy from a baby :evil:
£30 mate, just been to town and they gave me £30 cash for it, like talking candy from a baby :evil:
Going into Hull on Monday; it will be done :) Cheers.
Kept SWFU got rid of Far Cry 2 for £30 cash as they didn't have MKvsDC in stock :(
Still nice £12 profit :)
EDIT: Thanks for the info Davey didn't see your post :o
Davey_Pitch
06-12-2008, 19:09
Really? I'd read that to 'complete' the game it would take nearer 100 hours which was putting me off...
I might have do as you've said and play through the campaign first. Cheers.
Sorry, should have been clear that I was referring to SWTFU :)
Admiral Huddy
09-12-2008, 10:37
Ok, I'm still a little confussed by this game.
I've been given a choice of two missions, one from the APR and one from a buddy (so called) but it's really difficult to choose which option to take? The game give you the choice but doesn't say what the implications or consequences are?
NokkonWud
09-12-2008, 13:34
You build up a stronger relationship with your buddies by doing it for them.
Admiral Huddy
09-12-2008, 14:42
So stick by the buddies? I feel as if i missed a big part of the game.. There's a few missions i've declined which would have taken me somewhere different, like the fort. I've not had a mission to go there yet.
8.5 hours play and only 22% done - Blimmy!
NokkonWud
09-12-2008, 15:19
Yeah, basically you have no reason not to do anything for your friends. Always try and keep them alive on missions too as they end up saving you when you need it most.
There's so much to do, the completion percentage seldom seems to budge :(.
Admiral Huddy
09-12-2008, 15:31
Where are you up to?
NokkonWud
09-12-2008, 16:01
I've only done about 7 or 8 missions, but I've been doing a lot of the sub-missions for the arms dealer, finding diamonds and I've started listening in on the transmission towers.
Patch is out for v1.02 on PC that adds proper widescreen support as well as a few bug fixes.
I've got a sealed copy of this for the 360 and not sure what to do with it.
It came free with an Empire magazine subscription deal, so do I:
a) Sell it and pay for part of the subscription with it
b) Keep it
Not sure if it's my sort of thing or not, or how much I'd rather keep the money :p Guessing I wouldn't get much for it now though.
Streeteh
27-12-2008, 14:51
I'd sell it, there's much better games out there for the same money imo. From what i've seen it still retails at a higher price than some of the better big named games.
It's £18 new, I can't see it being much more expensive than anything else relatively big
Streeteh
27-12-2008, 15:18
It's £18 new, I can't see it being much more expensive than anything else relatively big
Well, clearly i haven't seen it at that price yet :p
Well, clearly i haven't seen it at that price yet :p
Play have got it for that price and I think a few other places might have too.
I'll have a read through this thread but think I'll probably sell it, got plenty to play as it is.
Well, clearly i haven't seen it at that price yet :p
It's £15 if you're more of the PC gaming persuasion
Selling my tin copy, awful game, just could not get into it, its one of the worst big games I have played on the 360, disgrace to FC1
MarcLister
27-12-2008, 20:59
It's £15 if you're more of the PC gaming persuasionI presume you mean Amazon. Is this worth it? I loved Far Cry and whilst I know Far Cry 2 is a massive departure from the original, I'd like to play it.
Couldn't tell you, I can't run it (well), so i've not bought it myself.
I'd say £15 is probably an ok price for it. I would never have paid £30 or more for it but £15 is probably reasonable.
NokkonWud
28-12-2008, 00:01
I'd say it's worth £15 for the Map Editor alone.
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