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Old 18-05-2009, 20:03   #1
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Default Should Gordon Brown step down?

Everyone seems to want GB to resign, heck, even the most popular petition on number 10's website is about him resigning.
Listening to the news a lot of MP's seem to want him too as well.

The only reason I want him to go is because he wasn't exactly voted in or ought, so it's unfair on the British people.

So... you thoughts?
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Old 18-05-2009, 20:07   #2
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I don't think anyone who voted for Blair last election expected not to get Brown at some point (the Tories even put it on a campaign poster iirc). Personally I don't want him to go - I don't think he's as good a PM as Tony Blair was (and I think Blair was really good for the most part) but I think he's better than any of the others, certainly within Labour and imo in the other parties as well.
That said though, I'm starting to get disillusioned with Labour in general (mainly over the ID cards issue). But then I look at the other parties and they have issues I disagree with too (the Tories, Europe, tax/spending plans, and airports; the Lib Dems, certain environmental, defence and economy things). Maybe I should start the Briggykins Party.
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Old 18-05-2009, 20:09   #3
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His being voted in or out is irrelevant surely, you vote for a party and it's policies rather than whether you happen to think the bloke on TV is a nice chap?
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Old 18-05-2009, 20:26   #4
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His being voted in or out is irrelevant surely, you vote for a party and it's policies rather than whether you happen to think the bloke on TV is a nice chap?
So that's what I've been doing wrong
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I don't see any reason for him to step down/call a general election/whatever...

As divine said then we voted in Labour, not Tony, although this isn't the general view of the electorate.

Very little, if any, of the shock stuffs which have been happening recently are down to his actions, although the general (Daily Mail reading) populace would agree with that...

Maybe this should be in the serious forum, and maybe I'll comment more when I'm not in the pub with my girlfriend
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Old 18-05-2009, 21:52   #6
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The only reason I want him to go is because he wasn't exactly voted in or ought, so it's unfair on the British people.

So... you thoughts?
The British people were fully aware that he would be gaining power off Tony Blair when they voted in the last general election.

In the current climate, him resigning wouldn't be good for anyone, even if he is poor.

Roll on the next general election. Hopefully even the plebs have had enough of Labour, and the middle classes aren't going to decide that the Tories aren't up to it, and vote bloody lib dem. I can't see the Liberals winning it, but I can see people voting for them and not the Tories causing Labour to win.
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Old 18-05-2009, 23:06   #7
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Not for the recent events, no.
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Old 19-05-2009, 00:11   #8
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It was no secret at all that Blair would step down mid-term and Gordo would step up. Everyone knew that when they voted Labour in.

However, they should have learned that a 'good' chancellor doesn't necessarily make a 'good' PM. Didn't we do that one already? (John Major, lest anyone here be too young to remember).

I say 'good' in quotes because it's debatable whether you can use that term for a chancellor who, it turns out, sold the family silver and blew all the proceeds. Pulled the wool over my eyes, for sure - but in fairness I doubt any of the other lot would have seen this mess coming.

As for the question at hand - no, absolutely not. The very last thing this country needs right now is a power vacuum.
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Old 19-05-2009, 00:13   #9
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But the conservatives have a cool website




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Old 19-05-2009, 00:16   #10
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No, because if he stepped down before the end of Labour's term, wouldn't someone else toeing the exact same line simply replace him?

I don't know who I want in power to be honest. Labour have made some grave mistakes, but I'm not confident that any other party is going to be better at getting us out of this mess than Labour are. When put under pressure, Dave seems to cite pretty much the same ideas as Brown, but with a much better spin, which is just the illusion of change and reform. If they win the election, we'll still see much of the same, perhaps even slightly more failings when it comes to spending and budgets.
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