So how much is your car tax going up by?

Matblack · 18-03-2008, 11:27

Minnie despite being a 1600cc car is in group K and will go from £210 to £300, a increase of 70% :/

Can't say I'm impressed, I do understand the idea behind it but my suspicion is that the money raised won't be used to combat climate change or shore up our terrible public transport system but will more likely be used to build more airports and roads.

When will people understand you'll never tax people out of cars unless you give them an alternative? Start subsidising the national rail network to a point where I can make a journey for less than the price of the petrol and its quicker and I might choose that over driving but until then policies like this will lead to a change of government to a regime which has already said it won't be able to afford to reduce taxes :/

MB

kaiowas · 18-03-2008, 11:34

Group K? Have they totally changed the system again, last I knew the bands only went up to 'G'

Our cars are pre 2001 so we'll pay the standard £185 (up £5) although I do have to pay that twice for the privilege of driving the track car to and from events. If the engine capacity was 38cc less I'd only be paying £120 per car.

Matblack · 18-03-2008, 11:39

Indeed, here are the new 'special' bands, note, if you buy a car in the upper bands not only will you pay more tax yearly but as a special bonus you get to pay a lump sum when you drive it out of the showroom.

Right now it isn't quite enough to make me think about changing the car but come 2009 I'll probably swap to a newer Cooper S or a Clubman S which cost £95/ year and have no lump sum to pay in year 1.

I think this is going to do more damage than good to be honest. The resale value of higher group cars are going to be crippled by this and I suspect we'll see more cars made in the last 7 years or so on the scrap pile than older cars :/

MB

Desmo · 18-03-2008, 11:52

Both of our cars are pre-2001 so we don't get hit by this....but as you say, it's just a joke really. What do they think this is going to solve? Nothing. It's just another revenue raiser.

Admiral Huddy · 18-03-2008, 16:30

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Originally Posted by Desmo

Both of our cars are pre-2001 so we don't get hit by this....but as you say, it's just a joke really. What do they think this is going to solve? Nothing. It's just another revenue raiser.

Same here for our Galaxy.. I don't think it does do anything except a load of spin that the government are demonstrating that they are doing something but that's the problem isn't it. Everyone wants to act now but aren't really prepared to pay for the price. There has to be a comprimise somewhere.

I would have liked to have seen a radical change in policy rather than taxes.. Tougher laws on product packaging (not just bloody carrier bags), public transport insentives, cut back on street lighting, ban junk mail and free papers, go back to bottles for milk and juices etc..

It doesn't have to be taxing, it just needs some proper thought..

Blackstar · 18-03-2008, 12:02

My car is pre-2001 so i'm alright, if it had gone up i would have had to have given up my car and either gotten something much smaller and much less powerful, like a lawnmower or be carless.

Del Lardo · 18-03-2008, 12:10

Currently ~£210 and going up to £400

I'm annoyed that it is almost DOUBLING but in the grand scheme of things £200 is not an issue and wouldn't have stopped me buying the car. Still £400 for a Mondeo does strike me as insane.

The real issue I have is that the car doesn't get great fuel economy (~28mpg) so I already pay a lot more tax as a result of my car choice.

Desmo · 18-03-2008, 12:52

This is where it all seems daft to me. They're hitting some pretty average cars with a tax level far higher than they warrant.

leowyatt · 18-03-2008, 12:56

Both of ours are pre 2001 so we're safe with £120 and £185

*phew* arse to all you that are being hit by an increase

Zirax · 18-03-2008, 13:17

Well on the longer motorway commutes you do really need at least a 1.6/1.8. This is simply so its not screaming its guts out doing 70. I thought I might be caught with mine, but I'm just clear.

This is a money raiser and its a way of rapidly getting that money back for example Northern Rock. Second hand prices will take a wallop through this, but I will still eventually swap the Focus to a diesel luxo barge.

The day that I start worrying about my emissions is the day that China stops opening new coal power stations at a rate of 1 every two weeks

18-03-2008, 11:27	#1
Matblack Baby Bore Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Svalbard Posts: 9,770	So how much is your car tax going up by? Minnie despite being a 1600cc car is in group K and will go from £210 to £300, a increase of 70% :/ Can't say I'm impressed, I do understand the idea behind it but my suspicion is that the money raised won't be used to combat climate change or shore up our terrible public transport system but will more likely be used to build more airports and roads. When will people understand you'll never tax people out of cars unless you give them an alternative? Start subsidising the national rail network to a point where I can make a journey for less than the price of the petrol and its quicker and I might choose that over driving but until then policies like this will lead to a change of government to a regime which has already said it won't be able to afford to reduce taxes :/ MB __________________ "we had roots that grew towards each other underground, and when all the pretty blossom had fallen from our branches we found that we were one tree and not two"

18-03-2008, 11:34	#2
kaiowas The Stig Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Fightertown USA Posts: 1,458	Group K? Have they totally changed the system again, last I knew the bands only went up to 'G' Our cars are pre 2001 so we'll pay the standard £185 (up £5) although I do have to pay that twice for the privilege of driving the track car to and from events. If the engine capacity was 38cc less I'd only be paying £120 per car. __________________ Anal Fish Porn

18-03-2008, 11:39	#3
Matblack Baby Bore Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Svalbard Posts: 9,770	Indeed, here are the new 'special' bands, note, if you buy a car in the upper bands not only will you pay more tax yearly but as a special bonus you get to pay a lump sum when you drive it out of the showroom. Right now it isn't quite enough to make me think about changing the car but come 2009 I'll probably swap to a newer Cooper S or a Clubman S which cost £95/ year and have no lump sum to pay in year 1. I think this is going to do more damage than good to be honest. The resale value of higher group cars are going to be crippled by this and I suspect we'll see more cars made in the last 7 years or so on the scrap pile than older cars :/ MB __________________ "we had roots that grew towards each other underground, and when all the pretty blossom had fallen from our branches we found that we were one tree and not two"

18-03-2008, 11:52	#4
Desmo The Last Airbender Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pigmopad Posts: 11,915	Both of our cars are pre-2001 so we don't get hit by this....but as you say, it's just a joke really. What do they think this is going to solve? Nothing. It's just another revenue raiser. __________________

18-03-2008, 12:02	#6
Blackstar Ambassador of Awesome Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Edinburger Posts: 3,676	My car is pre-2001 so i'm alright, if it had gone up i would have had to have given up my car and either gotten something much smaller and much less powerful, like a lawnmower or be carless. __________________ Jim Garrahy's Fudge Kitchen

18-03-2008, 12:10	#7
Del Lardo Absinthe Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cambridge Posts: 2,539	Currently ~£210 and going up to £400 I'm annoyed that it is almost DOUBLING but in the grand scheme of things £200 is not an issue and wouldn't have stopped me buying the car. Still £400 for a Mondeo does strike me as insane. The real issue I have is that the car doesn't get great fuel economy (~28mpg) so I already pay a lot more tax as a result of my car choice.

18-03-2008, 12:52	#8
Desmo The Last Airbender Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pigmopad Posts: 11,915	This is where it all seems daft to me. They're hitting some pretty average cars with a tax level far higher than they warrant. __________________

18-03-2008, 12:56	#9
leowyatt Chef extraordinaire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Infinite Loop Posts: 11,143	Both of ours are pre 2001 so we're safe with £120 and £185 phew arse to all you that are being hit by an increase __________________ "Dr Sheldon Cooper FTW!"

18-03-2008, 13:17	#10
Zirax Goes up to 11! Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,577	Well on the longer motorway commutes you do really need at least a 1.6/1.8. This is simply so its not screaming its guts out doing 70. I thought I might be caught with mine, but I'm just clear. This is a money raiser and its a way of rapidly getting that money back for example Northern Rock. Second hand prices will take a wallop through this, but I will still eventually swap the Focus to a diesel luxo barge. The day that I start worrying about my emissions is the day that China stops opening new coal power stations at a rate of 1 every two weeks

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