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Old 15-08-2008, 12:46   #1
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Default Bit of a problem trying to 'go wireless'...

Right, moving house at the moment and wanted to get a wireless router for the new house so I've taken delivery of a Linksys WRT54GL this morning which is great, appart from the fact it doesn't have a built in modem!?!

I was expecting a similar thing to my old Netgear DG814, with the buit in modem and added wireless capabilities :/

So, basically i want to know what people would suggest I do now?
I thought i'd just send it back and get an ADSL version, but there isn't a WRT54GL with a built in modem :/
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Old 15-08-2008, 13:06   #2
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The WRT's are all ethernet routers so if you want to use them on ADSL you'll need an ethernet ADSL modem. The ADSL 'versions' are the WAG range but I've had problems with the ADSL portion being a bit cruddy so I don't buy them. It's a shame because the WRT54GL + Tomato firmware is fantastic.

When it comes to ADSL routers I buy Netgear DG834G's which seem pretty solid albeit lacking the features of the WRT54GL but they're only used for our field based people so they don't need PAT, QoS and all the other fancy stuff that the WRT54GL has.
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Old 15-08-2008, 13:12   #3
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The ADSL 'versions' are the WAG range but I've had problems with the ADSL portion being a bit cruddy so I don't buy them.
Odd, mine is fine for me, my WAG200G has lasted longer than three previous Netgear DG834G's put together. Holds sync with negative SNR too. Definitely the best router I've had yet.
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Agreed with Burble. At Consumer level, Linksys for Ethernet routers, Netgear for ADSL. There are other good options but at a price premium.
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Old 15-08-2008, 13:21   #5
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yeah i bought this so that i'd be able to stick the tomato firmware on and have better control over the network.

don't know what to do now :/

really want to make things work with this, but havin issues finding a standard ethernet adsl modem, they all seem to be routers :/
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Old 15-08-2008, 13:36   #6
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The two (comsumer) ethernet ADSL modems I've used are the Linksys AM200 and the Zoom 5651AF both of which have worked fine.

Draytek make one too, but I'm not a fan of theirs so haven't tried one.
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Old 15-08-2008, 13:44   #7
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i'm tempted to just pick up one of these...
http://www.dsl-warehouse.co.uk/product.asp?pr=DSL-320T

looks like it'll provide me with the connection and not have anything on it (nice lack of NAT and firewall) to interfere with the WRT

* just found one on ebay but they guy is selling it because its not compatible with his ADSL connection :/
any ideas how to check compatibility?
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Old 15-08-2008, 14:11   #8
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Ethernet is ethernet as far as I'm concerned so I don't see why it wouldn't work. That said, I've not used one so can 't make any guarantees.
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Old 15-08-2008, 15:41   #9
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how would the features of the WRT be effected if it connected to the web through a Netgear DG814?

still got one lying around so could use that and still get the wireless through the WRT i guess. I just don't know too much about connecting two routers, one with far fewer features than the other :/
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Old 15-08-2008, 15:51   #10
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You should be able to put the WRT on the LAN side of the DG814 then in the DG814 set the DMZ IP address to be the WAN IP address of the WRT. That way any traffic sent to the DG814 will be sent onto the WRT and you can then use the WRT for port forwarding and so on.

If you go down this route pay attention to your IP ranges. If the LAN interface of the DG814 is 192.168.0.1/24 then set the WAN IP address of the WRT to something else in that /24 with the DG814 as it's default gateway. Then set the LAN IP address of the WRT to another subnet - 192.168.1.1/24 for example.

You'll end up with double NAT but it shouldn't cause you any problems.
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