HDMI graphics

Nutcase · 14-03-2009, 20:39

Can anyone recommend an HDMI DHCP compatible graphics card? Pref ATI and has to be PCI-E. And preferably no fan although an ultra quiet one one be ok...

Budget under £100.

Ta

Zirax · 14-03-2009, 20:59

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=56&subcat=708
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...56&subcat=1274

Ignoring the place for a moment, they have the cards laid out well. Anything from £30-£100 really that includes passive and pretty decent cards. Any in the ATI HD range should do the job, just check for HDMI compatability as some have this built into the card.

edit:- What are you planning?

Mark · 14-03-2009, 21:36

All of the ATI cards from the 3xxx and 4xxx series will (I believe) do that. The 38xx and 48xx ones certainly will, unless a manufacturer decided to break ranks and do their own thing (it has happened in the past, particularly with ASUS, but it's rare as the cost is prohibitive to most).

Nutcase · 15-03-2009, 07:50

Well since rebuilding my htpc the agp graphics card I used is redundant. And now I have an HDMI amp...

Noone seems to mention HDCP in the specs

Found this one though:

http://www.sapphiretech.com/us/produ...gpid=280&grp=3

And it will fit in the case

Funny, no mention anywhere of HDCP, but a close up pic of the pcb shows an HDCP sticker...

One question though - on my old card http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/...ProductID=2334

I could set the vga output to 1024x768 and the DVI to 1920x1080 (1080p) using a spread desktop on XP, with control over what program is sent to what output. Can I do the same thing?

Cheers peeps

Mark · 15-03-2009, 10:40

Uh oh! HDCP! Red alert! From what I've heard, HDCP is a right bugger on the PC side (it's bad enough with dedicated hardware). The problem is that everyone's so anal retentive about the standard, so one component (software or hardware) even slightly out of spec and it all falls on its arse.

If you want working HDCP, I'd seek advice from a specialist forum (not sure if this is an area AVForums might help with). I'd hate to recommend something only for it to go wrong.

Glaucus · 15-03-2009, 10:53

You don't need hdcp as your amp and tv wont be hdcp compatiable. It means you will have to buy anydvdhd to view encrypted BD which sucks. But that the way it is.

Got myself a Saphire 3450 apparently sound doesn't work over hdmi unless you get the ati adapter which aren't automatically supplied with ati gfx cards unless it specifically says. I'll let you know how I get on with it as soon as I get some BD of love film probably Wednesday-Thursday.

But if you can spend upto 100 I would make sure the grfx card actually has a hdmi socket and not an adapter, just makes life easier and neater. Also not all HDMI supports sound. So goto the manufacturers website and make sure it supports sound. For example my card will only support 5.1 and nothing higher. Although I sill be using spdif as my amp is not hdmi.

Nutcase · 15-03-2009, 15:06

Don't panic people

The HDCP is the one bit of it all I'm vaguely up to date with

After having a mare getting my standalone bluray player to talk properly. My projector isn't HDCP but I bought an "HDFury" (and had to hack it because even it isn't properly HDCP...). My amp is HDCP.

And the card linked to above has "On-board HDMI with 7.1 surround sound support" which is what I'm after

Any thoughts on the individually controllable resolutions?

Jingo · 15-03-2009, 17:27

Currently running a Sapphire Radeon HD4670 GDDR3 1GB PCIe which I picked up for ~£70 I believe.

Runs very quiet under full load (Can't hear it ergo quieter than my case fans), and for the money it packs quite the punch.

It runs Crysis and any other game I've tried on Full High settings, res 1680x1050 on my 22" Samsung, supports 7.1 channel sound, dual DVI output, HDTV support etc etc.

Haven't a reason to fault it with either graphics work, 3d rendering or gaming and seems like a more than reasonable price imo

Mark · 15-03-2009, 18:35

If that HDFury weren't so expensive, I might get me one of those. Would certainly be nice to do what you're doing (my HTPC has HDMI out).

Glaucus · 15-03-2009, 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark

If that HDFury weren't so expensive, I might get me one of those. Would certainly be nice to do what you're doing (my HTPC has HDMI out).

I don't get the point of it at that price not for a htpc. Use AnyDVDHD to strip the HDCP of the source, then send it to what ever device you want.

14-03-2009, 20:39	#1
Nutcase Moonshine Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chelmsford, innit! Posts: 3,979	HDMI graphics Can anyone recommend an HDMI DHCP compatible graphics card? Pref ATI and has to be PCI-E. And preferably no fan although an ultra quiet one one be ok... Budget under £100. Ta

14-03-2009, 20:59	#2
Zirax Goes up to 11! Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,577	http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=56&subcat=708 http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...56&subcat=1274 Ignoring the place for a moment, they have the cards laid out well. Anything from £30-£100 really that includes passive and pretty decent cards. Any in the ATI HD range should do the job, just check for HDMI compatability as some have this built into the card. edit:- What are you planning? Last edited by Zirax; 14-03-2009 at 21:05.

15-03-2009, 10:40	#5
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Uh oh! HDCP! Red alert! From what I've heard, HDCP is a right bugger on the PC side (it's bad enough with dedicated hardware). The problem is that everyone's so anal retentive about the standard, so one component (software or hardware) even slightly out of spec and it all falls on its arse. If you want working HDCP, I'd seek advice from a specialist forum (not sure if this is an area AVForums might help with). I'd hate to recommend something only for it to go wrong. Last edited by Mark; 15-03-2009 at 10:43.

15-03-2009, 10:53	#6
Glaucus Absinthe Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,855	You don't need hdcp as your amp and tv wont be hdcp compatiable. It means you will have to buy anydvdhd to view encrypted BD which sucks. But that the way it is. Got myself a Saphire 3450 apparently sound doesn't work over hdmi unless you get the ati adapter which aren't automatically supplied with ati gfx cards unless it specifically says. I'll let you know how I get on with it as soon as I get some BD of love film probably Wednesday-Thursday. But if you can spend upto 100 I would make sure the grfx card actually has a hdmi socket and not an adapter, just makes life easier and neater. Also not all HDMI supports sound. So goto the manufacturers website and make sure it supports sound. For example my card will only support 5.1 and nothing higher. Although I sill be using spdif as my amp is not hdmi. __________________ Last edited by Glaucus; 15-03-2009 at 10:56.

15-03-2009, 17:27	#8
Jingo Smother me in chocolate and eat flapjacks with it! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Somerset Posts: 1,854	Currently running a Sapphire Radeon HD4670 GDDR3 1GB PCIe which I picked up for ~£70 I believe. Runs very quiet under full load (Can't hear it ergo quieter than my case fans), and for the money it packs quite the punch. It runs Crysis and any other game I've tried on Full High settings, res 1680x1050 on my 22" Samsung, supports 7.1 channel sound, dual DVI output, HDTV support etc etc. Haven't a reason to fault it with either graphics work, 3d rendering or gaming and seems like a more than reasonable price imo __________________

14-03-2009, 21:36	#3
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	All of the ATI cards from the 3xxx and 4xxx series will (I believe) do that. The 38xx and 48xx ones certainly will, unless a manufacturer decided to break ranks and do their own thing (it has happened in the past, particularly with ASUS, but it's rare as the cost is prohibitive to most).

15-03-2009, 07:50	#4
Nutcase Moonshine Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chelmsford, innit! Posts: 3,979	Well since rebuilding my htpc the agp graphics card I used is redundant. And now I have an HDMI amp... Noone seems to mention HDCP in the specs Found this one though: http://www.sapphiretech.com/us/produ...gpid=280&grp=3 And it will fit in the case Funny, no mention anywhere of HDCP, but a close up pic of the pcb shows an HDCP sticker... One question though - on my old card http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/...ProductID=2334 I could set the vga output to 1024x768 and the DVI to 1920x1080 (1080p) using a spread desktop on XP, with control over what program is sent to what output. Can I do the same thing? Cheers peeps

15-03-2009, 15:06	#7
Nutcase Moonshine Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chelmsford, innit! Posts: 3,979	Don't panic people The HDCP is the one bit of it all I'm vaguely up to date with After having a mare getting my standalone bluray player to talk properly. My projector isn't HDCP but I bought an "HDFury" (and had to hack it because even it isn't properly HDCP...). My amp is HDCP. And the card linked to above has "On-board HDMI with 7.1 surround sound support" which is what I'm after Any thoughts on the individually controllable resolutions?

15-03-2009, 18:35	#9
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	If that HDFury weren't so expensive, I might get me one of those. Would certainly be nice to do what you're doing (my HTPC has HDMI out).