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Beansprout · 15-10-2007, 01:12

....For new toys which will be arriving soon!

(I'm ill so need to concentrate on something to keep me happy hehe)

I'll soon have....

Xbox 360
Onyko 605
5.1 speakers
Samsung HD TV

To connect the lot up, I think it goes as follows....

360 Component lead: video to Onkyo via component leads, audio input via toslink cable

Onkyo outputs: sub preout to sub, wires to each speaker; video via HDMI out to TV.

But could I make things simpler by doing the following instead?

360 component lead: component video to TV, toslink to Onkyo for audio

Onkyo outputs: sub preout to sub, wires to each speaker

I'm confused as to why the Onkyo has video inputs/outputs - is it just to make wiring easier for people who have their rack of AV kit away from the TV?

The second option would also save money due to needing no HDMI cable

Gracias for any wisdom!

Matblack · 15-10-2007, 07:55

You're pretty much spot on. I don't know the amp you are looking at but the reason video is routed through the amp is to allow one unit to deal with the audio and video switching and make things simpler. I use my amp for video switching because the run to the projector is 8m and its almost impossible to run new cables so the less runs the better.

The if your happy to switch things over separately for audio and video then you can do direct runs although if your amp does video upscaling you'll bypass that (less important for HD sources though)

MB

Beansprout · 15-10-2007, 13:19

Nice one, thanks

The reason I thought of the separate AV kit was from seeing your own photos of your very nice setup the other day! All I need now is a projector....

Mark · 15-10-2007, 15:06

I'm sure you're making enough money for that.

If you're using HDMI out of the amp, does the amp not have HDMI in (I thought newer XBoxen had HDMI, but could be wrong)? A purely digital path would surely be best. Also watch out for stuff that won't convert between connections (though that generally tends to be older kit).

Beansprout · 15-10-2007, 15:09

No HDMI on 360

It might have component out though I suppose - good point.

Kinda blew the budget on the speakers & sub, but at some point an HD DVD player will come along, and I think I can 'borrow' a projector from a friend....

Del Lardo · 15-10-2007, 20:25

I have run the video inputs through the amp in my setup

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...6&id=665555652

It makes a lot of sense as it meant that I only had to route one HDMI cable to the TV and allows me to switch inputs with one remote.

If you are planning on adding extra inputs in the future then I would stick with the one input to TV option.

Beansprout · 15-10-2007, 20:27

Now that's very slick - poor rejected remotes! What rack are you using there? That's next on my list

Del Lardo · 15-10-2007, 23:07

I'm not too sure tbh. It's a slightly complicated setup. The rack, speakers and TV belong to my friend who I rent the house off though I am now subletting my spare room to him and we swopped TVs so he didn't need to take his off the wall.

I can find out the make/model of the rack if you want.

Beansprout · 16-10-2007, 02:08

Sssh should've said it was all yours! If you could find the make/model without too much effort, that'd be great, thanks

Del Lardo · 16-10-2007, 16:43

http://www.creative-audio.co.uk/OPTIMUM.htm
Optimum Prelude (5500 I think)

Quote:

I went for the 10mm shelf option, think I paid in the region of about £450
for it.

15-10-2007, 01:12	#1
Beansprout Long Island Iced Tea Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 488	My sig is a placeholder... ....For new toys which will be arriving soon! (I'm ill so need to concentrate on something to keep me happy hehe) I'll soon have.... Xbox 360 Onyko 605 5.1 speakers Samsung HD TV To connect the lot up, I think it goes as follows.... 360 Component lead: video to Onkyo via component leads, audio input via toslink cable Onkyo outputs: sub preout to sub, wires to each speaker; video via HDMI out to TV. But could I make things simpler by doing the following instead? 360 component lead: component video to TV, toslink to Onkyo for audio Onkyo outputs: sub preout to sub, wires to each speaker I'm confused as to why the Onkyo has video inputs/outputs - is it just to make wiring easier for people who have their rack of AV kit away from the TV? The second option would also save money due to needing no HDMI cable Gracias for any wisdom! __________________ Uploader Cartoons World Wind

15-10-2007, 07:55	#2
Matblack Baby Bore Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Svalbard Posts: 9,770	You're pretty much spot on. I don't know the amp you are looking at but the reason video is routed through the amp is to allow one unit to deal with the audio and video switching and make things simpler. I use my amp for video switching because the run to the projector is 8m and its almost impossible to run new cables so the less runs the better. The if your happy to switch things over separately for audio and video then you can do direct runs although if your amp does video upscaling you'll bypass that (less important for HD sources though) MB __________________ "we had roots that grew towards each other underground, and when all the pretty blossom had fallen from our branches we found that we were one tree and not two"

15-10-2007, 13:19	#3
Beansprout Long Island Iced Tea Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 488	Nice one, thanks The reason I thought of the separate AV kit was from seeing your own photos of your very nice setup the other day! All I need now is a projector.... __________________ Uploader Cartoons World Wind

15-10-2007, 15:09	#5
Beansprout Long Island Iced Tea Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 488	No HDMI on 360 It might have component out though I suppose - good point. Kinda blew the budget on the speakers & sub, but at some point an HD DVD player will come along, and I think I can 'borrow' a projector from a friend.... __________________ Uploader Cartoons World Wind

15-10-2007, 20:27	#7
Beansprout Long Island Iced Tea Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 488	Now that's very slick - poor rejected remotes! What rack are you using there? That's next on my list __________________ Uploader Cartoons World Wind

15-10-2007, 15:06	#4
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	I'm sure you're making enough money for that. If you're using HDMI out of the amp, does the amp not have HDMI in (I thought newer XBoxen had HDMI, but could be wrong)? A purely digital path would surely be best. Also watch out for stuff that won't convert between connections (though that generally tends to be older kit).

15-10-2007, 20:25	#6
Del Lardo Absinthe Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cambridge Posts: 2,539	I have run the video inputs through the amp in my setup http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...6&id=665555652 It makes a lot of sense as it meant that I only had to route one HDMI cable to the TV and allows me to switch inputs with one remote. If you are planning on adding extra inputs in the future then I would stick with the one input to TV option.

15-10-2007, 23:07	#8
Del Lardo Absinthe Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cambridge Posts: 2,539	I'm not too sure tbh. It's a slightly complicated setup. The rack, speakers and TV belong to my friend who I rent the house off though I am now subletting my spare room to him and we swopped TVs so he didn't need to take his off the wall. I can find out the make/model of the rack if you want.

16-10-2007, 02:08	#9
Beansprout Long Island Iced Tea Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 488	Sssh should've said it was all yours! If you could find the make/model without too much effort, that'd be great, thanks __________________ Uploader Cartoons World Wind