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Old 27-01-2008, 19:52   #1
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.... you could change someones deep seated opinions and prejudices through rational argument on the internet?

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Old 27-01-2008, 19:55   #2
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.... you could change someones deep seated opinions and prejudices through rational argument on the internet?

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That would depend on the forum as well as the person Mat and certain people I have come across on the web are so ingrained through arrogance and lack of life experience that they are beyond rational argument.

I think I know where you are coming from.
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Old 28-01-2008, 08:54   #3
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That would depend on the forum as well as the person Mat and certain people I have come across on the web are so ingrained through arrogance and lack of life experience that they are beyond rational argument.
Absolutely.
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Old 28-01-2008, 19:30   #4
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That would depend on the forum as well as the person Mat and certain people I have come across on the web are so ingrained through arrogance and lack of life experience that they are beyond rational argument.
Nail/Head/Hit.

I love the posters that post with Authority about things they have No actual experience in I also love the Holier than thou crowd that Never do Anything wrong
It seems the Interweb not only makes people Brave but it makes them an Authority on any subject they have recently Googled
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Old 28-01-2008, 19:34   #5
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Nail/Head/Hit.

I love the posters that post with Authority about things they have No actual experience in I also love the Holier than thou crowd that Never do Anything wrong
It seems the Interweb not only makes people Brave but it makes them an Authority on any subject they have recently Googled
LOL! I just love you Malc!
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Old 28-01-2008, 19:38   #6
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Old 12-09-2008, 11:54   #7
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The OP carries the assumption that said people SHOULD change their mind, which in turn suggests that he is right and they are wrong.
Yes, I had noticed this rather strange starting point. There are also a whole range of questions as to where one draws lines between opinions, views, prejudices, etc.

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The answer to the original question lies in WHY people hold their opinion. If person A believes something that isn't true and person B provides evidence that it isn't true, then person A would change their view of the world unless they simply wanted to believe a lie.
There is also the whole issue of instances where it is impossible realistically to determine that one view is "right" or "wrong" - religious faith is a very obvious example.


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... certain people I have come across on the web are so ingrained through arrogance and lack of life experience that they are beyond rational argument.
Irony or what
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Optimistic, yes... Stupid, no...
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Old 27-01-2008, 19:57   #9
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Yeah I'd say it would depend on the person and how much they believed in their own prejudices.

I was trying to think of the prejudices I have and whether I would change them if someone gave me a rational arguement, but I don't think I would.

I'd also not bother trying to change peoples opinions either. Even if it's hurtful to me, I tend to let them have their own opinions and just get on with things. Don't get too worked up about stuff.
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Old 27-01-2008, 20:02   #10
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Yeah I'd say it would depend on the person and how much they believed in their own prejudices.

I was trying to think of the prejudices I have and whether I would change them if someone gave me a rational arguement, but I don't think I would.

I'd also not bother trying to change peoples opinions either. Even if it's hurtful to me, I tend to let them have their own opinions and just get on with things. Don't get too worked up about stuff.
Thats good advice, I think I'll print one of these out and have a glass of wine



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