Von'll agree, but I doubt the government will listen though.

Garp · 05-02-2008, 20:15

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7229036.stm

Quote:

The time and money wasted on police red tape could put 3,000 more officers on the streets, according to a police reform report due out this week.

Mark · 05-02-2008, 20:28

No, I'm afraid you're wrong there. The Government will go on a drive to reduce red tape. This drive will involve removing one piece of paperwork and replacing it with three.

At least I believe that's how these things have worked in the past.

Von Smallhausen · 07-02-2008, 20:06

Good idea in principle but Labour are so hell bent on control and targets that it is simply unworkable without, I believe, a change of regime.

Examples I give.

I attend a domestic. I have to fill in a domestic violence form that requires a 6 page form for the Domestic Violence Unit. Why is that neccessary when a good log entry will do ?

I attend a crime and stop a member of the public to ask them if they saw anything. I have to fill in a stop form. Why ?

Ethical recording of crime states that all crime must be recorded, ie I attend a pub where someone has reportedly been in a fight but will not say who, what, why, when or where. The government wish that to be recorded as a crime even if it is not verified by co-operation via a statement and willingness to press charges. Why ? No complaint should mean no crime.

There is one huge reason why police are mired down and morale is so low. Labour.

Mark · 07-02-2008, 20:19

Government in removal of red tape shocker

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/s...290061,00.html

If it's true, of course. I don't claim to understand the intricacies of these forms.

Garp · 07-02-2008, 20:58

I got stopped and searched just before christmas.. the form was incredible. Stop and search, 2 minutes. Form filling, probably 5.

07-02-2008, 20:06	#3
Von Smallhausen I'm Free Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tyneside Posts: 3,061	Good idea in principle but Labour are so hell bent on control and targets that it is simply unworkable without, I believe, a change of regime. Examples I give. I attend a domestic. I have to fill in a domestic violence form that requires a 6 page form for the Domestic Violence Unit. Why is that neccessary when a good log entry will do ? I attend a crime and stop a member of the public to ask them if they saw anything. I have to fill in a stop form. Why ? Ethical recording of crime states that all crime must be recorded, ie I attend a pub where someone has reportedly been in a fight but will not say who, what, why, when or where. The government wish that to be recorded as a crime even if it is not verified by co-operation via a statement and willingness to press charges. Why ? No complaint should mean no crime. There is one huge reason why police are mired down and morale is so low. Labour. __________________ " Well, old bean, life is really so bloody awful that I feel it’s my absolute duty to be chirpy and try and make everybody else happy too." David Niven, 1910-1983.

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Garp Preparing more tumbleweed Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hawaii Posts: 6,038	I got stopped and searched just before christmas.. the form was incredible. Stop and search, 2 minutes. Form filling, probably 5. __________________ Mal: Define "interesting"? Wash: "Oh, God, oh, God, we're all gonna die"?

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Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	No, I'm afraid you're wrong there. The Government will go on a drive to reduce red tape. This drive will involve removing one piece of paperwork and replacing it with three. At least I believe that's how these things have worked in the past.

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Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Government in removal of red tape shocker http://www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/s...290061,00.html If it's true, of course. I don't claim to understand the intricacies of these forms.