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petemc · 04-11-2007, 18:38

I guessed

I'm not forcing anyone to do anything

Garp · 04-11-2007, 19:34

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Originally Posted by Mark

I'd agree, but you can't really accuse a minority player (as much as Apple might want to be otherwise) of being a monopoly now, can you?

The argument against the inclusion of Media Player in European software was that it was uncompetitive towards companies Like RealPlayer and the like, rather than (in name anyway) because Microsoft had a monopoly on the market. How is that different from Apple including media software with their OS, or any other OS?

*shrug* anyway, it was just a random thought

Mark · 04-11-2007, 19:45

It isn't, but I suspect the whole media player thing was a front, much as a multitude of EU commissioners might express a view to the contrary. Can. Open. Worms. Everywhere.

SidewinderINC · 04-11-2007, 20:21

is WMP not included with windows anymore?

Mark · 04-11-2007, 20:39

Microsoft were forced to create an 'N' version to placate the EU commissioners - not that it stopped them clouting MS with a huge fine as well mostly because they didn't provide the entire, fully documented source code for Windows, written in blood and hand-delivered by Bill Gates himself, on demand (or at least that's what it seemed like they wanted).

Of course, no-one actually wants this braindamaged software. Well, why would they?

Will · 04-11-2007, 20:56

Ooooh coool

After_8 · 04-11-2007, 22:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark

I'd agree, but you can't really accuse a minority player (as much as Apple might want to be otherwise) of being a monopoly now, can you?

The second most popular operating system on home computers is a minority thing now? I can think of a dozen smaller ones that could be hurt by Apple's anti-competitive tactics.

Personally I think that both companies should be allowed to include whatever they want with the OS. What's next? No Notepad because people might not want that as a text editor?

Mark · 04-11-2007, 22:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by After_8

No Notepad because people might not want that as a text editor?

Please don't give the EU commissioners ideas. They'll take you seriously.

PS - I was using minority in the strict sense.

Garp · 05-11-2007, 00:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by After_8

Personally I think that both companies should be allowed to include whatever they want with the OS. What's next? No Notepad because people might not want that as a text editor?

Why would anyone want to use anything but vim or emacs?

Burnsy2023 · 06-04-2008, 15:27

Old thread I know but I've been trying to exactly this to get my head around OSX AD integration but I've had no end of problems.

Feek, you got any decent guides?

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04-11-2007, 19:45	#13
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	It isn't, but I suspect the whole media player thing was a front, much as a multitude of EU commissioners might express a view to the contrary. Can. Open. Worms. Everywhere.

04-11-2007, 20:39	#15
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Microsoft were forced to create an 'N' version to placate the EU commissioners - not that it stopped them clouting MS with a huge fine as well mostly because they didn't provide the entire, fully documented source code for Windows, written in blood and hand-delivered by Bill Gates himself, on demand (or at least that's what it seemed like they wanted). Of course, no-one actually wants this braindamaged software. Well, why would they?

06-04-2008, 15:27	#20
Burnsy2023 Long Island Iced Tea Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Southampton Posts: 105	Old thread I know but I've been trying to exactly this to get my head around OSX AD integration but I've had no end of problems. Feek, you got any decent guides?