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Old 08-05-2008, 18:56   #1
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Here's the story:

About 2 months ago I started having issues with TF2. Now I had never noticed any other issues.

On Sunday evening whilst playing Gary's Mod I noticed my ping on ventrilo was around 1000ms+. I alt tabbed and it looked like this:

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Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=54ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=83ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=119ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=80ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=150ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=168ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=196ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=201ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=98ms TTL=255
Request timed out.

Anyway - I quit the game and all was fine. I loaded up wow - no issues.

I've upgraded the firmware on my router to no avail. I connected directly to the internet which seemed to fix it. I then reset my firmware to manufacturer defaults. It seemed fine, but since then it has come back. I've also pinged the router from another PC whilst my PC is getting high latency and it's the same. I'm guessing that this rules out the wire as a problem.

Also I can max out my 20mb/s connection and have no issues. Anyway - not sure what to do next. I've used Wireshark and have some results but I'm not sure if I should post that as it has my IP - although I'm guessing it wouldn't be that hard for people to get it.

My router's a draytek 2910G. I first noticed an issue with TF2 about 2 months ago, but I hadn't noticed the issue with local ping at the time (everything else seemed to play fine so I just left it).
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:57   #2
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Checked your lan drivers? Not running on the out of the box vista/xp ones?
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Old 09-05-2008, 13:00   #3
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It looks like your router, tbh.
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Old 09-05-2008, 13:11   #4
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Yeah I'm hoping there's a setting or something which can help...

It isn't my NIC Alex as it happens on another machine.
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Old 09-05-2008, 13:14   #5
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What results do you get if you ping one machine from the other?
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Old 09-05-2008, 13:18   #6
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1ms...

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C:\Users\Robert>tracert 192.168.0.11
Tracing route to DEREK [192.168.0.11]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms DEREK [192.168.0.11]
Trace complete.
C:\Users\Robert>
Whilst playing TF2:

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Ping statistics for 192.168.0.11:
Packets: Sent = 225, Received = 225, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 11ms, Average = 0ms
While playing I got loss and choke - yet the pings seemed ok.


I went back on to TF2 whilst pinging my router - had the same loss, but you can see the huge difference in ping (compared to when I pinged the other PC).

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Request timed out.
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=116ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=71ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=52ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=152ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=234ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=55ms TTL=255
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=255
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 192.168.0.1:
Packets: Sent = 547, Received = 545, Lost = 2 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 234ms, Average = 1ms

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Old 09-05-2008, 13:28   #7
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I went and played TF2 and got horrendous loss - but pings seemed OK?
Don't blame the ping for your papness.....

Sorry I'll go now as I have nothing constructive to say...
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Old 09-05-2008, 17:33   #8
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I've grabbed a look at the wireshark dump you gave me and I'm seeing a scary number of packets arriving corrupted. So either the wiring between you and it is corrupted, the router is corrupting packets, or your machine is corrupting packets.. take your pick

With the amount of failures its causing a large amount of repeated data to be thrown back and forth.

edit: Maybe.. http://www.wireshark.org/faq.html#q11.1
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Old 09-05-2008, 18:16   #9
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Sorry if I missed it, but are they wired to router or wifi?
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Old 09-05-2008, 18:33   #10
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It's wired - if my network card was corrupting packets would that have an adverse effect on the other PC?

Edit: I disabled TCP Checksum Offload (IPv4) and UDP Checksum Offload (IPv4) and most of the errors seem to have gone...

Not sure if that's because they aren't there or whether they just aren't being shown.

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