Virgin's New STM Policy

Robert · 28-05-2008, 19:13

http://www.virginmedia.com/help/traffic-management.php

Bugger

divine · 28-05-2008, 19:36

I'll be honest and say that doesn't look hugely horrific to me, unless you actually attempt to max your connection all day long.

20Mb for example, if you download 6GB during the day, will get knocked to 5Mb (which will still provide over 500KB/s surely?) for 5 hours. Evening time if you download 3GB the same thing. So, just self cap your download speeds during day/evening so you won't fall foul of the limits and do your bulk downloads overnight...

Robert · 28-05-2008, 19:40

To be honest it is pretty horrific to me.

They advertise the service as unlimited - when it clearly isn't.

Garp · 28-05-2008, 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by divine`

20Mb for example, if you download 6GB during the day, will get knocked to 5Mb (which will still provide over 500KB/s surely?) for 5 hours. Evening time if you download 3GB the same thing. So, just self cap your download speeds during day/evening so you won't fall foul of the limits and do your bulk downloads overnight...

Quick bit of math..

20Mb / 8 = 2.5MB per second. (3*1024)/2.5= 1228.8 seconds, or just a whopping 20 minutes.

Whats the point of having a 20Mb connection if you're only allowed to use it at full speed for 20 minutes?

Even during the day time that's capping you to just 40 minutes.

Why waste money paying for a super fast connection when you can't even use it?

Wossi · 28-05-2008, 19:48

They keep getting more stringent with their limits. This has changed since the 4Mb users have been upgraded (free of charge) to 10Mb. I can't honestly see it changing till they get round to upgrading the back end of the system and they go to Docsis 3.

leowyatt · 28-05-2008, 19:55

Well personally I think it's shocking, between 10am and 9pm you need to be very careful with your connection. Basically schedule any downloads between 9pm and 10am

Unfortunately for me Unison doesn't provide scheduling

Daz · 28-05-2008, 20:13

What's Unison dude?

leowyatt · 28-05-2008, 20:17

It's a Mac usenet client Daz, the best around apparently. But I've looked and can't find anything in there to schedule anything with. I know you can do it in Alt.Binz.

divine · 28-05-2008, 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert

To be honest it is pretty horrific to me.

They advertise the service as unlimited - when it clearly isn't.

It is unlimited, technically. You can still download over 500GB a month if you wish to.

You'll just have to do some of it at 5Mb

At the end of the day, being capped to 5Mb for a few hours is hardly the end of the world, it's better than a lot of ADSL services that will cap you to 256K for an entire day. It hardly cripples your ability to use the net, or even download still.

Also, bear in mind, this will only be a problem if you're doing something illegal or are on a mission to find every Linux ISO ever created

Daz · 28-05-2008, 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by leowyatt

It's a Mac usenet client Daz, the best around apparently. But I've looked and can't find anything in there to schedule anything with. I know you can do it in Alt.Binz.

You could handle it outside the app - make a script to kill the process at 9:55am and start it at 9:05pm

28-05-2008, 19:13	#1
Robert Chump!!! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: North West Posts: 993	Virgin's New STM Policy http://www.virginmedia.com/help/traffic-management.php Bugger

28-05-2008, 19:36	#2
divine Moonshine Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Southampton Posts: 3,201	I'll be honest and say that doesn't look hugely horrific to me, unless you actually attempt to max your connection all day long. 20Mb for example, if you download 6GB during the day, will get knocked to 5Mb (which will still provide over 500KB/s surely?) for 5 hours. Evening time if you download 3GB the same thing. So, just self cap your download speeds during day/evening so you won't fall foul of the limits and do your bulk downloads overnight... __________________

28-05-2008, 19:55	#6
leowyatt Chef extraordinaire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Infinite Loop Posts: 11,143	Well personally I think it's shocking, between 10am and 9pm you need to be very careful with your connection. Basically schedule any downloads between 9pm and 10am Unfortunately for me Unison doesn't provide scheduling __________________ "Dr Sheldon Cooper FTW!"

28-05-2008, 20:13	#7
Daz The Stig Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Swad! Posts: 10,713	What's Unison dude? __________________ apt-get moo

28-05-2008, 20:17	#8
leowyatt Chef extraordinaire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Infinite Loop Posts: 11,143	It's a Mac usenet client Daz, the best around apparently. But I've looked and can't find anything in there to schedule anything with. I know you can do it in Alt.Binz. __________________ "Dr Sheldon Cooper FTW!"

28-05-2008, 19:40	#3
Robert Chump!!! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: North West Posts: 993	To be honest it is pretty horrific to me. They advertise the service as unlimited - when it clearly isn't.

28-05-2008, 19:48	#5
Wossi Absinthe Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In the middle Posts: 1,385	They keep getting more stringent with their limits. This has changed since the 4Mb users have been upgraded (free of charge) to 10Mb. I can't honestly see it changing till they get round to upgrading the back end of the system and they go to Docsis 3.

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