Gordon to announce 6 May general election

[Grandad]

Originally Posted by Psymonkee

I seem to recall a looney Lib Dem policy of enforcing a minimum of £800 PA for road fund....

our Lib Dem run council paid out just short of £500,000 for the sugababes to appear at our local park

They then kept 4,000 of the 14,000 tickets for family and friends of council folks and the local newspaper

5,000 of the remaining 10,000 tickets went to locals the rest went "elsewhere"

the show generated about £270,000

this cost every local person who didn't go £40 for the privelidge

the head of the Lib Dems arranged 2 overnight off site meetings, 2 miles from the council offices , these involved overnight stays and in one case a wine bill for 3 people running into several hundred pounds


the concert thing I think was to boost their egos and the hotel/wine as sleazy as anything from MPs

[Desmo]

Originally Posted by Matblack

They said, that they will cut road investment to invest in making the rail network more usable and thus taking more people off the roads and on to rail. Now here in the commuter belt that will be a worthwhile investment, in your neck of the woods maybe that doesn't make sense.

MB

It's pretty pointless unless you live in a big city. I have to dodge enough pot holes as it is on the way to work and they're certainly not going to lay on a train for me that will take me in to town first to pick up the post and then on to work in a small village. I don't exactly live in the middle of nowhere either.

[Matblack]

Originally Posted by Desmo

It's pretty pointless unless you live in a big city. I have to dodge enough pot holes as it is on the way to work and they're certainly not going to lay on a train for me that will take me in to town first to pick up the post and then on to work in a small village. I don't exactly live in the middle of nowhere either.

If you don't subscribed to the general philosophy of 'for the greater good' then the Lib Dems are going to have less appeal as a party, I'm not suggesting they are right for everyone nor am I suggesting you or anyone else should vote for them but their policies aren't as 'loony' as has been suggested and they are a genuine alternative party. I have no interest in campaigning on behalf of the Lib Dems here just suggesting people don't write them off without reading what they have to say.

MB

[Jingo]

I think it's a shame that a party has a strong possibility of winning an election primarily because they are 'not Labour'.

I would much prefer it if everybody voted on the policies they agree with opposed to their 'front man' of choice; sure, it's hard to believe that some MPs are involved in the running of the country when they behave in such a playground manner, but I must admit feeling impressed/relieved with a couple of speeches & comments made that promoted what a party would actually like to achieve- opposed to a tiresome barrage upon rival candidates/parties.

[TinkerBell]

I have to agree that I don't see how they are going to improve the rail network enough to make it a good idea for most people to use. I wouldn't be able to use it on a daily basis, but it would be more likely at the weekends (which is still very unlikely). Why would go on trains when my car is cheaper, more flexible, always has a seat, quiet, always only a short walk away and I can get to the exact place without needing a lift or getting a bus as well. I live in a big city and there is no chance I would give up my car to get the bus everywhere again!

I have no idea who I am going to vote for. I was reading Conservative's policies and they seem pretty good if they actually do them, but in the back of my mind all I could hear was "if they are going to do all of this, how are they going to fund it". I don't see a way that they will be able to do all that without taxing us to the hilt (I know this will be the same for all the parties) but I have just had enough of getting paid and alot of my money going to them. It is just tooo much money all the time.

Bah, will have to read the other policies later on.

[TinkerBell]

Originally Posted by Jingo

I would much prefer it if everybody voted on the policies they agree with opposed to their 'front man' of choice; sure, it's hard to believe that some MPs are involved in the running of the country when they behave in such a playground manner, but I must admit feeling impressed/relieved with a couple of speeches & comments made that promoted what a party would actually like to achieve- opposed to a tiresome barrage upon rival candidates/parties.

This was something I noticed yesterday when I was reading Conservative policies. It kept mentioning how Labour has failed us and how they weren't doing what they were supposed to. Of course we blooming know where they have gone wrong. I don't won't to hear about them. I want to know what YOU are going to do, not what they should have.

[Desmo]

I don't generally write anyone off and I know you're not on a massive campaign drive

Originally Posted by Matblack

If you don't subscribed to the general philosophy of 'for the greater good' then the Lib Dems are going to have less appeal

If it's for the greater good, I still think it's a bad idea. More people use the roads compared to trains so for the greater good surely means more money spent on the roads? I'm all for the greater good.

[petemc]

Originally Posted by Kitten

I just find it difficult to vote for people who I know will lie to me to get what they want, have absolutely no idea what life is like outside of their ivory towers and will doubtless let me down when they get into power. I understand what is being said and I understand that there's good and bad on both sides of the major parties, unfortunately, it's usually the good stuff you voted for that never appears, and the bad stuff that you didn't want that you get in spades. So forgive me for not leaping towards the voting station with a spring in my step and a song in my heart. I honestly don't feel that it matters a jot what I want to happen, because it won't, whether I vote or not. I will be looking at the policies individually, but I suspect yet again it will be the lesser of two evils rather than a positive vote.

I wish there was a party I wanted to vote for, because I'd vote for them regardless of whether I thought they'd get in or not.

I vote Green for those reasons. My theory is, and I don't really follow politics so it might be totally fscked, but its that Green are hopefully fighting for the planet rather than greedy policies and breaking things like the NHS and copyright on my photos. So I vote for them hoping that my vote goes to someone who is trying to do good for us all.

I'm not sure if I want to be proven wrong on that or not tbh. I won't know who to vote for otherwise. Might start my own party. The Xmas Party. Policies include no xmas ads or music until Dec 1st. A ban on chavy decorations like black Xmas trees and blue neons

I've never been more disillusioned with the government than last night when I watch Parliament live. They were debating the DEBill. All 10 of them. 10! The other 600 had better things to do. Over 20,000 people complained about it and about 10 people showed up to discuss such an important bill. I was disgusted. AFAIK my MP wasn't there fighting for my believes. Guess I'm naive to believe that thats what they do.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...ll-debate.html

[Matblack]

Originally Posted by Desmo

I don't generally write anyone off and I know you're not on a massive campaign drive

If it's for the greater good, I still think it's a bad idea. More people use the roads compared to trains so for the greater good surely means more money spent on the roads? I'm all for the greater good.

There is a much bigger picture than making the roads better. You can only make the roads so much better and the roads can only take so many cars.

Hell I love my car but I know that unless we invest in the public transportation system, make it affordable and pleasant that the traffic jams will get worse and worse and worse, as a country we won't be able to keep our agreements on greenhouse gases and things will get nasty. You just have to look at my home town to see that however much money you throw at roads you'll never solve the problem and we have to invest in other ways

I'm not sure it's really worth getting into a big debate about it there are so many more policies than just taking a bit of road investment and putting it in to public transport. As I mentioned earlier the Lib Dems are one of the few parties to tell people that 'This is going to hurt', I'd rather people were honest with me that give me bluff and bluster and say 'hey this might not help you directly but the benefits will be worth the pain'. That's just me though.

MB

[Jingo]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/election2010/liveevent/

^^ Live footage ^^

I cannot believe these MPs are behaving in such a manner; it is more comparable to a drunken night of laddish banter than a discussion and debate of important governing issues.