Need suggestions - Engine issues

Creature · 19-05-2010, 18:54

Right, so basically, on Sunday I was driving home from London via the wonderful piece of the tarmac known as the M25. Just after coming out of the roadworks towards the A1, I started to accelerate away, when all of a sudden there was a dramatic loss in power, and it was very very hard to climb any form of hill at much above 40.

I managed to get it all the way home somehow, where upon after disscussion with a few people, it was thought that it was a fuel pump issue, and shouldn't be a hugely major fix, probably a few hundred, which isn't too bad.

Earlier today, I took it to the local Ford garage to have them run a check to see what the problem actually was. The found it. It was fuel pump problems, it was turbo related. The Turbo Control Unit had decided to give up the ghost. This means (according to Ford and the internet people) an entirely new turbo. I am fully aware that any such work is not cheap to do, nor are parts easy to get hold of. Ford have quoted this repair at circa £1500 for everything. I'm pretty sure i'm not going to be paying that, but if it comes to it, I may have to.

This leaves me with several choices.

A) Bend over and get shafted for £1500, but know that the problem is sorted.
B) Do the above, but then proceed to sell the car for hopefully more than £1500.
C) Source the part online, and get a local garage to fit it (probably £600 total).
D) Again, do the above and sell it
or E) Get rid of the car as is with the issue to a garage, hopefully in part-exchange for another car.

I'm not really sure what to do, I like the car, but i'm just not feeling anything towards it, and i'm not going to be at all sad if I sell it. I'm hoping you motoring people of BD would be able to give me some advice as to what you would do.

Zirax · 19-05-2010, 19:31

What Ford is it? Age, mileage etc. That will make a big difference on if it's worth repairing. I would have thought that a controller unit could be replaced on it's own though? I've never dealt with turbo cars so I'm not sure.

Creature · 19-05-2010, 20:56

It's a 2004 (53 plate) Mondeo with 123k on the clock. I'm not sure it can be done on it's own, but i'm going to get some more opinions tomorrow.

A Place of Light · 19-05-2010, 23:35

A) involves paying the dealer to fix it. Bad plan.
B) would mean you'd only be better off by the amount over £1500 you got for the car, and that's assuming you got more than £1500 for it. Bad plan IMHO.
E) They'd give you a few hundred quid for it, if that. Expect around £300.

That leaves C and D, and which you choose depends on how you feel about the car. If the car (apart from this fault) is worth keeping then go with C. If you don't think it's worth keeping or maybe you would be worrying about other things going wrong then go with D.

Personally, I'd ask friends/family to recommend a good independant (or two) and get a few quotes. It's a bad time to sell a car, especially one as plentiful in supply as a Mondeo.

Creature · 19-05-2010, 23:57

I've got a very good independant who does all the work for my ex's family, so he's the guy i'd probably take it to. The main issue is sourcing the part as I know it'll have to be the exact right part, else it's just more money wasted, but I suppose the indy would be able to help out with that, hopefully.

volospian · 20-05-2010, 09:08

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Originally Posted by Creature

I've got a very good independant who does all the work for my ex's family, so he's the guy i'd probably take it to. The main issue is sourcing the part as I know it'll have to be the exact right part, else it's just more money wasted, but I suppose the indy would be able to help out with that, hopefully.

Scrappys? If the car isn't worth that much, having to spend a lot on an expensive part seems hard to swallow... if you search around some scrappys, you may find the part considerably cheaper, then get your independant to fit it... If you're not sure about the exact part, get your independant to have a look and let you know.

Ok, so it won't be a band new part and may fail again.... but on a 123k car pretty much any part can go, so even if you do fit a new part, something else may go next week and so on...

Creature · 20-05-2010, 11:38

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Originally Posted by volospian

Ok, so it won't be a band new part and may fail again.... but on a 123k car pretty much any part can go, so even if you do fit a new part, something else may go next week and so on...

See, this is my main worry. With the Rover, in the course of a year, I needed 4 tyres, 4 brake discs/pads, the exhuast broke and the radiator. We kept repairing it because we thought 'ah, that's done now'.

I managed to get the part number from two seperate ford garages (quote of £960+VAT

) so it's just a case of finding somewhere online that sells it, as there's not really any scrappys around here that i'm aware of.

Del Lardo · 20-05-2010, 11:45

Have a search on ebay. I was able to pick up a low mileage gearbox for my Mondeo for £200 instead of the £600 a new one would have cost.

Creature · 20-05-2010, 11:51

I did a pretty good sweep of ebay yesterday for the part without the number and there were a few. I've just rechecked them all, but none of them match the part number which is an arse. If anyone was wondering, it's PN 1578770

Creature · 20-05-2010, 16:46

All sorted, getting a local indy to do everything, cheaper than Ford, bit more expensive than getting a used one, but i'm not too fussed. I like things done properly.

19-05-2010, 18:54	#1
Creature Crispy Coated Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 2,087	Need suggestions - Engine issues Right, so basically, on Sunday I was driving home from London via the wonderful piece of the tarmac known as the M25. Just after coming out of the roadworks towards the A1, I started to accelerate away, when all of a sudden there was a dramatic loss in power, and it was very very hard to climb any form of hill at much above 40. I managed to get it all the way home somehow, where upon after disscussion with a few people, it was thought that it was a fuel pump issue, and shouldn't be a hugely major fix, probably a few hundred, which isn't too bad. Earlier today, I took it to the local Ford garage to have them run a check to see what the problem actually was. The found it. It was fuel pump problems, it was turbo related. The Turbo Control Unit had decided to give up the ghost. This means (according to Ford and the internet people) an entirely new turbo. I am fully aware that any such work is not cheap to do, nor are parts easy to get hold of. Ford have quoted this repair at circa £1500 for everything. I'm pretty sure i'm not going to be paying that, but if it comes to it, I may have to. This leaves me with several choices. A) Bend over and get shafted for £1500, but know that the problem is sorted. B) Do the above, but then proceed to sell the car for hopefully more than £1500. C) Source the part online, and get a local garage to fit it (probably £600 total). D) Again, do the above and sell it or E) Get rid of the car as is with the issue to a garage, hopefully in part-exchange for another car. I'm not really sure what to do, I like the car, but i'm just not feeling anything towards it, and i'm not going to be at all sad if I sell it. I'm hoping you motoring people of BD would be able to give me some advice as to what you would do. __________________

19-05-2010, 20:56	#3
Creature Crispy Coated Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 2,087	It's a 2004 (53 plate) Mondeo with 123k on the clock. I'm not sure it can be done on it's own, but i'm going to get some more opinions tomorrow. __________________

19-05-2010, 23:57	#5
Creature Crispy Coated Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 2,087	I've got a very good independant who does all the work for my ex's family, so he's the guy i'd probably take it to. The main issue is sourcing the part as I know it'll have to be the exact right part, else it's just more money wasted, but I suppose the indy would be able to help out with that, hopefully. __________________

20-05-2010, 11:51	#9
Creature Crispy Coated Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 2,087	I did a pretty good sweep of ebay yesterday for the part without the number and there were a few. I've just rechecked them all, but none of them match the part number which is an arse. If anyone was wondering, it's PN 1578770 __________________

20-05-2010, 16:46	#10
Creature Crispy Coated Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 2,087	All sorted, getting a local indy to do everything, cheaper than Ford, bit more expensive than getting a used one, but i'm not too fussed. I like things done properly. __________________

19-05-2010, 19:31	#2
Zirax Goes up to 11! Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,577	What Ford is it? Age, mileage etc. That will make a big difference on if it's worth repairing. I would have thought that a controller unit could be replaced on it's own though? I've never dealt with turbo cars so I'm not sure.

19-05-2010, 23:35	#4
A Place of Light Absinthe Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,247	A) involves paying the dealer to fix it. Bad plan. B) would mean you'd only be better off by the amount over £1500 you got for the car, and that's assuming you got more than £1500 for it. Bad plan IMHO. E) They'd give you a few hundred quid for it, if that. Expect around £300. That leaves C and D, and which you choose depends on how you feel about the car. If the car (apart from this fault) is worth keeping then go with C. If you don't think it's worth keeping or maybe you would be worrying about other things going wrong then go with D. Personally, I'd ask friends/family to recommend a good independant (or two) and get a few quotes. It's a bad time to sell a car, especially one as plentiful in supply as a Mondeo.

20-05-2010, 11:45	#8
Del Lardo Absinthe Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cambridge Posts: 2,539	Have a search on ebay. I was able to pick up a low mileage gearbox for my Mondeo for £200 instead of the £600 a new one would have cost.

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