Heroes ** SPOILERS TO SERIES 1 FINALE ** - Page 11

Belmit · 17-05-2007, 12:23

It's strange, you would think there would be more of a correlation of powers between parents and children, but it just seems to be random. Clare can regenerate, but her father and mother have the power of flight and pyrokinesis respectively. However, there must be some link that shows what mutation the child would have, which is why Linderman machinated the relationship between Niki (super strength) and DL (phasing) to get Micah (technopathy).

Daz · 17-05-2007, 13:34

Another one for the Back To The Furure pile. In the 'new' future Hiro visited (5 years on), Sylar had acquired DL's power. Yet he is obviously now off the table, so somehow Hiro's actions since returning from the future have prevented DL and Sylar meeting - I dont see how though.

Another possibility I thought of is future Sylar gaining future Hiro's time travelling abilities - but of course we dont really understand how Sylar does what he does.

Belmit · 17-05-2007, 13:38

I guess one possibility is that it isn't just one power, one person, so there could be others out there with similar powers that we don't know of. Sylar may have harvested all sorts of powers in those five years.

Alternatively, it could just be that the writers make mistakes. They already admitted to one; the reason given for Mohinder's sister dying is that he was born too late to provide the transfusion to cure her. Earlier in the series they say that he was two years old when she died.

Daz · 17-05-2007, 13:43

I think with the whole introduction of time travel you have to forgive a lot and take it on entertainment value as much as possible - which I am. The geek in me likes to understand these things unfortunately

petemc · 17-05-2007, 14:41

Ditto. Time travel is a great tool for a story as Hiro can literally take the show anywhere, but of course its tricky to play with. Babylon 5 did it brilliantly with Babylon Squared and then 2 years later War Without End. They dropped in hints about things in Season 1 and concluded it in S3. The timeline never changed it played out as was intended.

Also DL isn't 100% dead is he? We just saw him get shot. People are only dead in TV land when they've been chopped up into 1000 pieces imho. I was thinking that since Linderman has healing powers maybe Nathan's dad isn't really his true Dad and his mum was naughty with Linderman. Then the healing power skipped a gen.

Garp · 18-05-2007, 08:36

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Originally Posted by Daz

Another one for the Back To The Furure pile. In the 'new' future Hiro visited (5 years on), Sylar had acquired DL's power. Yet he is obviously now off the table, so somehow Hiro's actions since returning from the future have prevented DL and Sylar meeting - I dont see how though.

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Susan wants to know about one of the newer powers we saw Sylar display. "In 'Five Years Gone,' 'Nathan' pulls Peter through the door, so they can have their showdown in the hall. My question is did Sylar get that from D.L. or is that a variation of Zane's melting ability?"

He got this ability from DL. One thing that was really fun to do with this episode is to string some stories across all our characters. If you watch the episode a few times, you'll notice that Peter says DL is “gone” to Niki. Hiro will admit that he brought DL to Bennet. Bennet explains that he told Matt about some specials and handed them over to the government. And then we'll see the end result of Matt rounding him up in Sylar's phasing ability. It's all there, although we'll admit we certainly put the b in subtle.

Some interesting stuff in that interview, like Adrian Pasdar (Nathan Petrelli) got Zach Quinto (Sylar) to record all of his lines for him so that he could study the inflection and character so that he could bring that to his delivery of the lines.

Belmit · 22-05-2007, 20:09

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Awesome.

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"You look badass."

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Daz · 22-05-2007, 20:11

Totally awesome. Great way to end a series.

Mondo · 22-05-2007, 20:29

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90% of the episode was fantastic, and it is my no 1 show this year. thou just being nipicking

The last battle between Peter and Syler was a let down, way too short. After what seems Peter absorbed Nikki's super strength you would think he could beat the crap out of him. Also I would've expect Hiro to stab Syler more than once.

Why couldn't Peter fly away himself?
Why not just wack him unconscious, it's shown that will stop the radiation, already done earlier in the episode. Nikki would've done the trick with that parking meter.
Shooting him dead would've worked too, since taking the bullet out he'll live again so Nathan basically died for nothing (thou he might have flown away before he died but certainly got a good dose of radiation

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Garp · 22-05-2007, 20:31

OMG, OMG, OMG, and another dose of OMG.

Thus summarises my view of that episode and that series

17-05-2007, 12:23	#101
Belmit The Mouse King of Denmark Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Winchester Posts: 6,476	It's strange, you would think there would be more of a correlation of powers between parents and children, but it just seems to be random. Clare can regenerate, but her father and mother have the power of flight and pyrokinesis respectively. However, there must be some link that shows what mutation the child would have, which is why Linderman machinated the relationship between Niki (super strength) and DL (phasing) to get Micah (technopathy). __________________

17-05-2007, 13:34	#102
Daz The Stig Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Swad! Posts: 10,713	Another one for the Back To The Furure pile. In the 'new' future Hiro visited (5 years on), Sylar had acquired DL's power. Yet he is obviously now off the table, so somehow Hiro's actions since returning from the future have prevented DL and Sylar meeting - I dont see how though. Another possibility I thought of is future Sylar gaining future Hiro's time travelling abilities - but of course we dont really understand how Sylar does what he does. __________________ apt-get moo

17-05-2007, 13:38	#103
Belmit The Mouse King of Denmark Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Winchester Posts: 6,476	I guess one possibility is that it isn't just one power, one person, so there could be others out there with similar powers that we don't know of. Sylar may have harvested all sorts of powers in those five years. Alternatively, it could just be that the writers make mistakes. They already admitted to one; the reason given for Mohinder's sister dying is that he was born too late to provide the transfusion to cure her. Earlier in the series they say that he was two years old when she died. __________________

17-05-2007, 13:43	#104
Daz The Stig Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Swad! Posts: 10,713	I think with the whole introduction of time travel you have to forgive a lot and take it on entertainment value as much as possible - which I am. The geek in me likes to understand these things unfortunately __________________ apt-get moo

17-05-2007, 14:41	#105
petemc Moonshine Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nr Liverpewl Posts: 4,371	Ditto. Time travel is a great tool for a story as Hiro can literally take the show anywhere, but of course its tricky to play with. Babylon 5 did it brilliantly with Babylon Squared and then 2 years later War Without End. They dropped in hints about things in Season 1 and concluded it in S3. The timeline never changed it played out as was intended. Also DL isn't 100% dead is he? We just saw him get shot. People are only dead in TV land when they've been chopped up into 1000 pieces imho. I was thinking that since Linderman has healing powers maybe Nathan's dad isn't really his true Dad and his mum was naughty with Linderman. Then the healing power skipped a gen. __________________ Thats no hamster, its a space station!

22-05-2007, 20:09	#107
Belmit The Mouse King of Denmark Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Winchester Posts: 6,476	O M F G Awesome. Spoiler Alert! - Highlight below to read! "You look badass." End Spoiler Alert! __________________

22-05-2007, 20:11	#108
Daz The Stig Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Swad! Posts: 10,713	Totally awesome. Great way to end a series. __________________ apt-get moo

22-05-2007, 20:29	#109
Mondo Absinthe Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,174	Spoiler Alert! - Highlight below to read! 90% of the episode was fantastic, and it is my no 1 show this year. thou just being nipicking The last battle between Peter and Syler was a let down, way too short. After what seems Peter absorbed Nikki's super strength you would think he could beat the crap out of him. Also I would've expect Hiro to stab Syler more than once. Why couldn't Peter fly away himself? Why not just wack him unconscious, it's shown that will stop the radiation, already done earlier in the episode. Nikki would've done the trick with that parking meter. Shooting him dead would've worked too, since taking the bullet out he'll live again so Nathan basically died for nothing (thou he might have flown away before he died but certainly got a good dose of radiation End Spoiler Alert! __________________ My Website / MSN / Email / Flickr / Blog

22-05-2007, 20:31	#110
Garp Preparing more tumbleweed Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hawaii Posts: 6,038	OMG, OMG, OMG, and another dose of OMG. Thus summarises my view of that episode and that series __________________ Mal: Define "interesting"? Wash: "Oh, God, oh, God, we're all gonna die"?