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Old 18-08-2007, 11:31   #11
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I'm more concerned that they'd try and force a replacement on me. It's a bit dodgy to take back a games console after a few days and ask for a refund because I'd have had to buy at least one game and not to want a replacement console means wasting the game.

Although, that's nothing to do with them anyway, it's none of their business. All I'd be doing is "I bought this three days ago, it's started flashing three lights at me, take the damn thing back and give me a refund" *poke*
The staff in Tesco aren't likely to give a monkeys dude, just another transaction to them. And besides, you're right, having been 'sold' a faulty product they cant refuse you a refund.

Gutted for you though
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Old 18-08-2007, 11:38   #12
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Besides Tesco's made a 9% GM last year at least 4% ahead of others, they can afford it
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Old 18-08-2007, 11:59   #13
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... and this morning it's working
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Old 18-08-2007, 12:21   #14
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Towel trick!
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Old 18-08-2007, 12:31   #15
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I've heard of that before, it's basically forcing the thing so hot that solder joints melt (urgh) and hopefully when they cool, they're good again.

btw, he caught the hammer of the gun when he first picked it up and forced it forwards, that pushes the release valve and it vented all the gas. Common thing with gas blowback airsoft pistols Once it's happened, it can damage the seal because all the gas escaping at once cools it very quickly and just needs a new one, certainly not a hunnerd and fifty bucks!
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Old 18-08-2007, 12:31   #16
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btw, he caught the hammer of the gun when he first picked it up and forced it forwards, that pushes the release valve and it vented all the gas. Common thing with gas blowback airsoft pistols
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Old 18-08-2007, 12:36   #17
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I've heard of that before, it's basically forcing the thing so hot that solder joints melt (urgh) and hopefully when they cool, they're good again.

When i posted that i could fix them it was due to the Solder problem.
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Basically you just strip them down to board, cover the sensitive bits up with Crumpled tin foil then get a Hot air gun & blow over the board for a few mo's, you have to get it hot enough to Re-Flow the Solder Which is not as hot as it sounds. Then you rebuild it & switch it on, leave it for ten minutes then switch it off & leave it for 20 minutes. Then you PLAY GAMES
The Towel trick & the Squeezing the case trick are just lucky minor stop gap tricks that work with those machines where the solder is minutely fractured
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Old 18-08-2007, 12:40   #18
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Malc, is it right that they used solder with a very low melting point? That would explain a lot, especially if it can be heated enough like that to get it to reflow.

And Daz - *blush*
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Old 18-08-2007, 12:52   #19
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Yes & crap quality solder. You have nothing to lose if you don't void your warranty by taking it to bits.
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Wrap it in a towel switch it On & let it cook up for say 10 minutes first time round & then try it. If that don't work try 20 minutes. After each cook though unwrap the towel & stick it somewhere DRY but cold. Worse ways you cook teh bejesus out of it & kill it stone dead. At least that way you will get a decent swap back when you RMA it
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Old 18-08-2007, 14:24   #20
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Is this a common thing with 360 consoles? I'm looking at getting one as soon as I can afford it.
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