Phone musings - Page 2

Daz · 22-09-2007, 16:03

Ok, so after thinking I had a fight on my hands to get away from O2, I think my 1 and only letter was written pretty well, as I'm free... and they didnt even tell me, just cut me off

So I'm properly on the hunt now. Decided to look at things from a different point of view and find a data friendly network, which leaves 3 and T-Mobile really. On T-Mobile there's the MDA Touch...

http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/mobil...ouch/overview/
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/...touch_review_1 (good read)
http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/gallery...bdb36de9b5.jpg (good pics)

I'd probably buy one now if it had 3G, but it unfortunately doesn't. Though having said that it probably wouldn't be as small if it had. The little 3D cube looks cute too - Even if it isn't useful it has a party piece. The today app is swish too. If anyone can find something similar with 3G then speak now!

Does anybody know much about T-Mobile's tariff's and how they work (lo Alex)? What about customer service, decent rep?

leowyatt · 22-09-2007, 16:07

We're with t-mobile, what do you want to know? Data tarriff if you're going to use the web alot get the web 'n walk which is 7.50 a month but you can't use your phone as modem (this is actually tosh as I've used my 6021 with the iBook at Chester and that connected to the web with no problems)

Depending on how much you use your phone for texts and calls I'd suggest the Flex 35 with wnw which should probably come to around £35 a month. I've had that for the last 18 months and it's very rarely gone over £40, on Orange I regularly had £50-£60 bills

Daz · 22-09-2007, 16:14

I was looking at Flex 25 with WnW. My last O2 bill said I used 121 minutes and 55 texts, and I exceeded my 100K data allowance which cost me >£5

27.50 a month and I'd all be covered

In the FUP for WnW they say 'Not applicable to connection via CSD', which I presume is their way of saying no modem use, but I'm not sure how they'd tell depending on what I was doing. Not that I'd do it without 3G anyway.

I need to decide how important 3G is to me really. I know it'll only be mega useful as a modem to the laptop, I can live without it on the phone itself - it'll sync with Exchange happily enough over GPRS, rarely will I pull attachments.

[edit]27.50 on a 12 month contract I should say. Which is a bonus

leowyatt · 22-09-2007, 16:19

well I've used my phone with the iBook quite a few times and there is no way for them to tell, it's just a case of getting it to work

Flex 25 sounds good, I'm actually going to drop wnw myself when I upgrade in a couple of weeks and maybe drop my tarriff depending on what my last couple of months usage shows.

Daz · 22-09-2007, 17:33

I suppose the other thing I should consider is that I have free OpenZone/Cloud access through work. These days you're never far from a chain hotel or a McDonalds drive through.

I shall pop into the shop tomorrow and try to get my hands on one properly.

[edit]Cool vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8-wMtuWT8o

http://www.coolsmartphone.com/images...f/compare1.jpg
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/images...f/compare3.jpg
Tiny!

Mark · 22-09-2007, 19:31

CSD = dial-up modem. If that's all they bar, then there's nothing to stop you using GPRS/3G via a laptop (as was proven in Chester).

I was going to go to T-mobile had Orange retentions not done me such a good deal (I told them that's where I was going, which I'm sure helped swing the deal).

I'm very much a fan of the htc devices, and the Touch in particular certainly has a lot going for it. Shame about the 3G (probably the same issue as Apple are having).

Haly · 22-09-2007, 19:48

They don't bar anything afaik when it comes to using it as a modem, it's just in the T&Cs that you don't do it. I'd doubt you'd have any problems using it occassionally though.

Daz · 22-09-2007, 19:52

The more I think about it the more the my free wifi access is making it less of an issue. I can sync over GPRS/Edge which is definitely something I want to do wherever I am, casual browser/MSN access will be fine, and for the handful of times I'll be out with my laptop, wanting to use broadband and not be in spitting distance of a McD's, it isnt worth it really. The more I see video's of it working the more I want it:

http://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp?Page=8&Id=3442

Obviously the 'big finger' interface wont extend to everything underneath it in WM, but it doesn't need to, the main things you need to access regularly on a phone are covered perfectly well.

Daz · 23-09-2007, 15:31

Heheheeeee.

Love it love it love it

Though I'm in the new toy phase right now so excuse the bias

Was impressed when I plugged it into laptop and Vista did this:

Got it spot on right down to brand. Told me I had new photos ready to import, asked me if I would like to throw some music at it from media player's library (came with a 1GB micro-sd card which is a bonus). You have to use more pressure than I thought you would with this touchflo shiznit but I'm getting used to it.

Mostly though I cant get over how small it is. One of the thinnest phone's I've ever owned, can barely feel it in my tight jeans pocket, doubt I'll feel it at all in work trousers.

New toy new toy new toy

Will · 23-09-2007, 15:35

That was the other phone I was tempted with, but the lack of 3G was a bit poo as EDGE isn't really that much faster than GPRS IMO. That phone does look REALLY cool though... hmm this has thrown a spanner in the works - do I sacrifice fast web for that....

How fast is it to use? How good is it for texting? Does it boot quickly?

22-09-2007, 16:03	#11
Daz The Stig Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Swad! Posts: 10,713	Ok, so after thinking I had a fight on my hands to get away from O2, I think my 1 and only letter was written pretty well, as I'm free... and they didnt even tell me, just cut me off So I'm properly on the hunt now. Decided to look at things from a different point of view and find a data friendly network, which leaves 3 and T-Mobile really. On T-Mobile there's the MDA Touch... http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/mobil...ouch/overview/ http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/...touch_review_1 (good read) http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/gallery...bdb36de9b5.jpg (good pics) I'd probably buy one now if it had 3G, but it unfortunately doesn't. Though having said that it probably wouldn't be as small if it had. The little 3D cube looks cute too - Even if it isn't useful it has a party piece. The today app is swish too. If anyone can find something similar with 3G then speak now! Does anybody know much about T-Mobile's tariff's and how they work (lo Alex)? What about customer service, decent rep? __________________ apt-get moo

22-09-2007, 16:07	#12
leowyatt Chef extraordinaire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Infinite Loop Posts: 11,143	We're with t-mobile, what do you want to know? Data tarriff if you're going to use the web alot get the web 'n walk which is 7.50 a month but you can't use your phone as modem (this is actually tosh as I've used my 6021 with the iBook at Chester and that connected to the web with no problems) Depending on how much you use your phone for texts and calls I'd suggest the Flex 35 with wnw which should probably come to around £35 a month. I've had that for the last 18 months and it's very rarely gone over £40, on Orange I regularly had £50-£60 bills __________________ "Dr Sheldon Cooper FTW!"

22-09-2007, 16:14	#13
Daz The Stig Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Swad! Posts: 10,713	I was looking at Flex 25 with WnW. My last O2 bill said I used 121 minutes and 55 texts, and I exceeded my 100K data allowance which cost me >£5 27.50 a month and I'd all be covered In the FUP for WnW they say 'Not applicable to connection via CSD', which I presume is their way of saying no modem use, but I'm not sure how they'd tell depending on what I was doing. Not that I'd do it without 3G anyway. I need to decide how important 3G is to me really. I know it'll only be mega useful as a modem to the laptop, I can live without it on the phone itself - it'll sync with Exchange happily enough over GPRS, rarely will I pull attachments. [edit]27.50 on a 12 month contract I should say. Which is a bonus __________________ apt-get moo

22-09-2007, 16:19	#14
leowyatt Chef extraordinaire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Infinite Loop Posts: 11,143	well I've used my phone with the iBook quite a few times and there is no way for them to tell, it's just a case of getting it to work Flex 25 sounds good, I'm actually going to drop wnw myself when I upgrade in a couple of weeks and maybe drop my tarriff depending on what my last couple of months usage shows. __________________ "Dr Sheldon Cooper FTW!"

22-09-2007, 17:33	#15
Daz The Stig Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Swad! Posts: 10,713	I suppose the other thing I should consider is that I have free OpenZone/Cloud access through work. These days you're never far from a chain hotel or a McDonalds drive through. I shall pop into the shop tomorrow and try to get my hands on one properly. [edit]Cool vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8-wMtuWT8o http://www.coolsmartphone.com/images...f/compare1.jpg http://www.coolsmartphone.com/images...f/compare3.jpg Tiny! __________________ apt-get moo

22-09-2007, 19:31	#16
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	CSD = dial-up modem. If that's all they bar, then there's nothing to stop you using GPRS/3G via a laptop (as was proven in Chester). I was going to go to T-mobile had Orange retentions not done me such a good deal (I told them that's where I was going, which I'm sure helped swing the deal). I'm very much a fan of the htc devices, and the Touch in particular certainly has a lot going for it. Shame about the 3G (probably the same issue as Apple are having).

22-09-2007, 19:48	#17
Haly Do you want to hide in my box? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 14,941	They don't bar anything afaik when it comes to using it as a modem, it's just in the T&Cs that you don't do it. I'd doubt you'd have any problems using it occassionally though. __________________ Halycopter

22-09-2007, 19:52	#18
Daz The Stig Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Swad! Posts: 10,713	The more I think about it the more the my free wifi access is making it less of an issue. I can sync over GPRS/Edge which is definitely something I want to do wherever I am, casual browser/MSN access will be fine, and for the handful of times I'll be out with my laptop, wanting to use broadband and not be in spitting distance of a McD's, it isnt worth it really. The more I see video's of it working the more I want it: http://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp?Page=8&Id=3442 Obviously the 'big finger' interface wont extend to everything underneath it in WM, but it doesn't need to, the main things you need to access regularly on a phone are covered perfectly well. __________________ apt-get moo

23-09-2007, 15:31	#19
Daz The Stig Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Swad! Posts: 10,713	Heheheeeee. Love it love it love it Though I'm in the new toy phase right now so excuse the bias Was impressed when I plugged it into laptop and Vista did this: Got it spot on right down to brand. Told me I had new photos ready to import, asked me if I would like to throw some music at it from media player's library (came with a 1GB micro-sd card which is a bonus). You have to use more pressure than I thought you would with this touchflo shiznit but I'm getting used to it. Mostly though I cant get over how small it is. One of the thinnest phone's I've ever owned, can barely feel it in my tight jeans pocket, doubt I'll feel it at all in work trousers. New toy new toy new toy __________________ apt-get moo

23-09-2007, 15:35	#20
Will BBx woz 'ere :P Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 2,147,487,208	That was the other phone I was tempted with, but the lack of 3G was a bit poo as EDGE isn't really that much faster than GPRS IMO. That phone does look REALLY cool though... hmm this has thrown a spanner in the works - do I sacrifice fast web for that.... How fast is it to use? How good is it for texting? Does it boot quickly? __________________ *No No!*