Are new fuel protests on the way - Page 2

Matblack · 01-10-2007, 12:04

Hmmmmmmm

I'm not sure where I stand on this. Because I only use the car every now and again the price increase doesn't worry me too much.

We complain a lot about this government but they seem to generally be doing OK as far as the economy is concerned. Whoever is in power is going to spend a lot of time in the wrong and if the Torys get in I don't hold out a lot of hope for them droping any of the taxes which have been introduced by Labour, in fact it will be the same old same old just with Dodgy Dave in charge instead.

So I'm undecided, if this was going to get anyone to use their car less I would be more swayed but quite frankly it won't. Better off increasing the tax on higher polluting vehicles to do that, i have a higher polluting car and I would pay more for the privilidge.

MB

Will · 01-10-2007, 13:04

The problem is in this country we over pay for a lot of things and just accept it. :/

The tax on fuel here is around 50p on average - on the continent the average is around 27p. How is it that they can survive and have an equally powerful economy (some would argue more stable and fair) and can't we without being raped? It's not fair.

Del Lardo · 01-10-2007, 13:11

It's probably because they are taxed in different ways. I was chatting to my boss last week after my review and bitching about how 40% of my bonus was going straight to the tax man and he pointed out that in Belgium it would have been 52% and IIRC most Scandinavian countries have equally high levels of income tax.

Von Smallhausen · 02-10-2007, 15:43

Fuel taxation in this country is a disgrace. You are slammed twice for both fuel duty and VAT and there is no excuse whatsoever for such a high level of taxation. It is so expensive as it is through because of greed and nothing else. It does not cost nearly 1 Pound a litre to extract, distill, refine, ship and wholesale buy and costs considerable less.

The green argument doesn't wash .... I work 25 miles and 35 minutes from where I live and via the public transport system it would be nearly two hours or so so I would suggest that the use of the car to get to work is a neccessity. Couple that with the transport system being fit for the Victorian era in this country and that argument can be flushed back up the Whitehall flue.

Greed. That is why we pay so high a price for petrol and diesel.

Haly · 02-10-2007, 16:25

Pretty much how I feel on the matter too Von

In my case, I work 30 miles away and there is absolutely no way of getting there other than by car because it's just off a motorway junction and there's no public transport of any kind within 5 miles.

Stan_Lite · 02-10-2007, 20:52

Spare a thought for the poor people of Shetland and other remote rural areas where fuel prices are considerably higher and a car is not a luxury, it's a necessity. Public transport in many areas in Shetland is virtually non-existent and many people rely on cars to get to work, get the the kids to school, go shopping, go to the doctor - and access many other essential services.

I have just got back from visiting my family up there and whilst out walking in the main town of Lerwick, I noticed the sign below at a petrol station and took a photo with the intention of starting a thread about it. Remember, this was in the main town so it's a reasonably safe bet that prices in the more remote areas are a few pence higher.

I wish there was some way that those for whom a car is a necessity could have their fuel prices subsidised. I haven't had a car for about 3 years, if I was to have one, it would be for my own personal convenience and general messing about in and I would be less likely to grumble about fuel prices if those who couldn't function without a car could have their fuel at a reduced rate.

It's no wonder rural areas are becoming depopulated - people simply can't afford to access basic services because of the insane fuel tax levied by successive British governments.

01-10-2007, 12:04	#11
Matblack Baby Bore Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Svalbard Posts: 9,770	Hmmmmmmm I'm not sure where I stand on this. Because I only use the car every now and again the price increase doesn't worry me too much. We complain a lot about this government but they seem to generally be doing OK as far as the economy is concerned. Whoever is in power is going to spend a lot of time in the wrong and if the Torys get in I don't hold out a lot of hope for them droping any of the taxes which have been introduced by Labour, in fact it will be the same old same old just with Dodgy Dave in charge instead. So I'm undecided, if this was going to get anyone to use their car less I would be more swayed but quite frankly it won't. Better off increasing the tax on higher polluting vehicles to do that, i have a higher polluting car and I would pay more for the privilidge. MB __________________ "we had roots that grew towards each other underground, and when all the pretty blossom had fallen from our branches we found that we were one tree and not two"

01-10-2007, 13:04	#12
Will BBx woz 'ere :P Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 2,147,487,208	The problem is in this country we over pay for a lot of things and just accept it. :/ The tax on fuel here is around 50p on average - on the continent the average is around 27p. How is it that they can survive and have an equally powerful economy (some would argue more stable and fair) and can't we without being raped? It's not fair. __________________ *No No!*

02-10-2007, 15:43	#14
Von Smallhausen I'm Free Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tyneside Posts: 3,061	Fuel taxation in this country is a disgrace. You are slammed twice for both fuel duty and VAT and there is no excuse whatsoever for such a high level of taxation. It is so expensive as it is through because of greed and nothing else. It does not cost nearly 1 Pound a litre to extract, distill, refine, ship and wholesale buy and costs considerable less. The green argument doesn't wash .... I work 25 miles and 35 minutes from where I live and via the public transport system it would be nearly two hours or so so I would suggest that the use of the car to get to work is a neccessity. Couple that with the transport system being fit for the Victorian era in this country and that argument can be flushed back up the Whitehall flue. Greed. That is why we pay so high a price for petrol and diesel. __________________ " Well, old bean, life is really so bloody awful that I feel it’s my absolute duty to be chirpy and try and make everybody else happy too." David Niven, 1910-1983.

02-10-2007, 16:25	#15
Haly Do you want to hide in my box? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 14,941	Pretty much how I feel on the matter too Von In my case, I work 30 miles away and there is absolutely no way of getting there other than by car because it's just off a motorway junction and there's no public transport of any kind within 5 miles. __________________ Halycopter

02-10-2007, 20:52	#16
Stan_Lite Stan, Stan the FLASHER MAN! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In bed with your sister Posts: 5,483	Spare a thought for the poor people of Shetland and other remote rural areas where fuel prices are considerably higher and a car is not a luxury, it's a necessity. Public transport in many areas in Shetland is virtually non-existent and many people rely on cars to get to work, get the the kids to school, go shopping, go to the doctor - and access many other essential services. I have just got back from visiting my family up there and whilst out walking in the main town of Lerwick, I noticed the sign below at a petrol station and took a photo with the intention of starting a thread about it. Remember, this was in the main town so it's a reasonably safe bet that prices in the more remote areas are a few pence higher. I wish there was some way that those for whom a car is a necessity could have their fuel prices subsidised. I haven't had a car for about 3 years, if I was to have one, it would be for my own personal convenience and general messing about in and I would be less likely to grumble about fuel prices if those who couldn't function without a car could have their fuel at a reduced rate. It's no wonder rural areas are becoming depopulated - people simply can't afford to access basic services because of the insane fuel tax levied by successive British governments. __________________ Just because I have a short attention span doesn't mean I...

01-10-2007, 13:11	#13
Del Lardo Absinthe Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cambridge Posts: 2,539	It's probably because they are taxed in different ways. I was chatting to my boss last week after my review and bitching about how 40% of my bonus was going straight to the tax man and he pointed out that in Belgium it would have been 52% and IIRC most Scandinavian countries have equally high levels of income tax.