Close call due to bad road signs, IMO

Desmo · 05-11-2007, 12:37

Was trundling off down to see MB & H at the weekend heading down the A12 and onto the M25. I travel up the sliproad and wait at the lights at the top. A lorry to my left and a Saab on my right. The lights go green and we all pull away. I get close to the M25 turn off but the lorry is still close by and I'm getting a wee bit squashed between him and the Saab. I'm now keeping an eye on the Saab who is carrying on around the roundabout and as I indicate and start to turn left up the M25 sliproad, the lorry is inches away from me

And I mean literally an inch from my wing mirror. I have to come to a standstill on the roundabout rather quickly, let the lorry take my lane of the sliproad and then quickly nip back in behind him. It was bloody close and had Sinead shaking for the next 5 minutes :/

It turns out the two lane sliproad to the M25 has roadworks and is currently one lane. I can't see this as the lorry is blocking my view, and I guess he can't see me indicating to turn off. I don't remember seeing any other signs showing the sliproad is down to one lane.

Pee'd me off a bit. Shouldn't there be more signs out showing only 1 lane exit?

Roberta · 05-11-2007, 13:05

Scary! Glad you're ok.

BBx · 05-11-2007, 13:29

T'is treacherous roads to the Bannister's... on our way back we nearly missed the exit to the M25 due to poor signage.

It's like a rabbit warren their route.... so many ways to go!

BB x

Jonny69 · 05-11-2007, 14:00

Same on the A2 to M25 and M25 to A2 at the moment. It's a nightmare.

Desmo · 05-11-2007, 14:18

Yep, we were heading down the A2 at the weekend. On the way back you come up to the M25 roundabout and again, only one lane exit. As there were cars already on my left hand side I had to do another lap around. There just seems to be a complete lack of decent signage allowing you to get into the correct lane in time.

Nutcase · 05-11-2007, 18:02

Agreed, that roundabout and slip roads are damned dangerous at the moment. There's often bumps on it with those roadworks going on. I quite often nip up the M11 instead to stay well clear.

Desmo · 05-11-2007, 18:09

Ah good, glad it's not just me then (not that I'd want others to almost crash), but you do start to wonder if you've done something wrong or stupid.

Admiral Huddy · 05-11-2007, 18:21

glad you're ok. You have shaked my hand in the past and it's infectious you know

Will · 05-11-2007, 18:32

There is a concentration of ****wits about at the moment. It seems that over the past few months the driving standards have declined enormously. I don't know what's happening. Lane discipline, anticipation, observation, indication, patience and graciousness have disappeared from people recently. There really are some 'tards on the roads - and my point is, they are so unforgiving should you make a mistake or if the road signs are ambiguous. I mean you're taught to forward plan and pre-empt, well how do you do it if you're not given any information.

I feel for you Jamie I really do, because so many times I've been in the same situation of being completely legitimate in my manoeuvre however it still caused an occasional hairy moment. Now you and I both ride bikes and I'd say generally have better anticipation, observation and reaction skills to non bikers, but in spite of this, we still end up in trouble. So if you think about it that way, it must mean there's something ****ed up on the roads if you get put into such an awkward position.

I'm glad all's well that ends well though - ultimately, nothing bad happened, and it was just some confusion and a few seconds of tension. I can imagine Sinead getting shaken up over things like that considering the bumps she's had in cars in the past. Hope she's not too shakey - I'm sure you'll give her some attention later

But yes, the roads are a complete nightmare at the moment,. I don't know what's happening, but I'm starting to hate being out on the road.

Nutcase · 05-11-2007, 18:33

Worst thing I see at that junction at the mo is people driving down the outside lane past the queue of people waiting to get onto the sliproad down to the roundabout, then diving across onto the sliproad and trying to shove into a gap that just isn' there.

05-11-2007, 12:37	#1
Desmo The Last Airbender Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pigmopad Posts: 11,915	Close call due to bad road signs, IMO Was trundling off down to see MB & H at the weekend heading down the A12 and onto the M25. I travel up the sliproad and wait at the lights at the top. A lorry to my left and a Saab on my right. The lights go green and we all pull away. I get close to the M25 turn off but the lorry is still close by and I'm getting a wee bit squashed between him and the Saab. I'm now keeping an eye on the Saab who is carrying on around the roundabout and as I indicate and start to turn left up the M25 sliproad, the lorry is inches away from me And I mean literally an inch from my wing mirror. I have to come to a standstill on the roundabout rather quickly, let the lorry take my lane of the sliproad and then quickly nip back in behind him. It was bloody close and had Sinead shaking for the next 5 minutes :/ It turns out the two lane sliproad to the M25 has roadworks and is currently one lane. I can't see this as the lorry is blocking my view, and I guess he can't see me indicating to turn off. I don't remember seeing any other signs showing the sliproad is down to one lane. Pee'd me off a bit. Shouldn't there be more signs out showing only 1 lane exit?

05-11-2007, 13:05	#2
Roberta Pole Model Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,986	Scary! Glad you're ok. __________________ I fell out of favour with Heaven somewhere, and I'm here for the hell of it now...

05-11-2007, 14:00	#4
Jonny69 Noob Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Socialist Republik of Kent Posts: 5,032	Same on the A2 to M25 and M25 to A2 at the moment. It's a nightmare. __________________

05-11-2007, 18:21	#8
Admiral Huddy HOMO-Sapien Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chelmsford Posts: 6,692	glad you're ok. You have shaked my hand in the past and it's infectious you know __________________ I just got lost in thought.. It was very unfamiliar territory. Techie Talk \| My gaming Blog \| PC spec \| The Admirals log

05-11-2007, 18:32	#9
Will BBx woz 'ere :P Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 2,147,487,208	There is a concentration of **wits about at the moment. It seems that over the past few months the driving standards have declined enormously. I don't know what's happening. Lane discipline, anticipation, observation, indication, patience and graciousness have disappeared from people recently. There really are some 'tards on the roads - and my point is, they are so unforgiving should you make a mistake or if the road signs are ambiguous. I mean you're taught to forward plan and pre-empt, well how do you do it if you're not given any information. I feel for you Jamie I really do, because so many times I've been in the same situation of being completely legitimate in my manoeuvre however it still caused an occasional hairy moment. Now you and I both ride bikes and I'd say generally have better anticipation, observation and reaction skills to non bikers, but in spite of this, we still end up in trouble. So if you think about it that way, it must mean there's something ed up on the roads if you get put into such an awkward position. I'm glad all's well that ends well though - ultimately, nothing bad happened, and it was just some confusion and a few seconds of tension. I can imagine Sinead getting shaken up over things like that considering the bumps she's had in cars in the past. Hope she's not too shakey - I'm sure you'll give her some attention later But yes, the roads are a complete nightmare at the moment,. I don't know what's happening, but I'm starting to hate being out on the road. __________________ No No!**

05-11-2007, 13:29	#3
BBx Reverse SuBo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: London Posts: 8,673	T'is treacherous roads to the Bannister's... on our way back we nearly missed the exit to the M25 due to poor signage. It's like a rabbit warren their route.... so many ways to go! BB x

05-11-2007, 14:18	#5
Desmo The Last Airbender Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pigmopad Posts: 11,915	Yep, we were heading down the A2 at the weekend. On the way back you come up to the M25 roundabout and again, only one lane exit. As there were cars already on my left hand side I had to do another lap around. There just seems to be a complete lack of decent signage allowing you to get into the correct lane in time.

05-11-2007, 18:02	#6
Nutcase Moonshine Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chelmsford, innit! Posts: 3,979	Agreed, that roundabout and slip roads are damned dangerous at the moment. There's often bumps on it with those roadworks going on. I quite often nip up the M11 instead to stay well clear.

05-11-2007, 18:09	#7
Desmo The Last Airbender Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pigmopad Posts: 11,915	Ah good, glad it's not just me then (not that I'd want others to almost crash), but you do start to wonder if you've done something wrong or stupid.

05-11-2007, 18:33	#10
Nutcase Moonshine Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chelmsford, innit! Posts: 3,979	Worst thing I see at that junction at the mo is people driving down the outside lane past the queue of people waiting to get onto the sliproad down to the roundabout, then diving across onto the sliproad and trying to shove into a gap that just isn' there.