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Old 22-11-2007, 12:48   #51
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I'm going to disagree with you here because although they are great players (and I'd be happy to see them at spurs) they are not world class players and certianly don't warrant the salary/price tag that goes with it.
Considering how Steven Gerrard has so often won games for Liverpool on his own, including the Champs League final against AC Milan, I don't see how people can argue against him. Everyone has an opinion though, it's what makes arguing about football so much fun
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Old 22-11-2007, 12:59   #52
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..it's what makes arguing about football so much fun
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Old 22-11-2007, 13:02   #53
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I think O'Neill is our best option at the moment.
Dear god no. As talented as MO'N seems to be, he hasn't really pushed Villa on the way I thought he would have done. I'd much rather we bring in a foreign manager with fresh tactics and ideas. If we can't get Jose, someone like Capello, Hiddink, Scolari, or Lippi will do nicely.
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Old 22-11-2007, 13:16   #54
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José Mário dos Santos Félix Mourinho, GOIH (pron. IPA /ʒu'zɛ mo'ɾiɲu/) (born 26 January 1963 in Setúbal), is a Portuguese football manager. He is soon to be named England National Manager after leaving Chelsea on 20 September 2007.
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Why is it his fault? Surely it's the crap players that are to blame?
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Old 22-11-2007, 13:19   #56
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Why is it his fault? Surely it's the crap players that are to blame?
Poor tactics, wrong team selection, poor motivational skills, lack of leadership, no ability to strategize properly. Yes the team are also to blame, but he deserves as much blame, if not more.
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Old 22-11-2007, 13:21   #57
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Obviously I know **** all about football but I'm seeing it as an outsider - but to me they don't seem top class. I'm comparing it our other athletes, rugby stars and so on... They are in my opinion not worth the money they get paid. If they played for the passion like the lesser paid athletes in the UK they'd do better. They are resting on their laurels and know they don't have to give their 100% as they're pretty much guaranteed a job. Top class players that deserve the wage shouldn't be getting that much. Heck even the most successful businessmen and woman that work their arses off hardly make even £1m a year and contribute a lot more to society. Sure there are some footballers that give their money to good causes, but most of it is publicity related.

They're playing for money, not for the passion.
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Old 22-11-2007, 13:22   #58
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Go go sweeping generalisation there
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Old 22-11-2007, 13:26   #59
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Exactly - that's the hypocrisy. These same people are more religious about football than religious people are about religion, yet they dismiss religion and tend to be the ones that are aggressive and ignorant to other faiths.
You seem to be suggesting there that anyone who cares more for football than religion is dismissive of all religion and aggressive and ignorant. I'm one of the people who care more for football than religion, as is Kitten and others. Are you suggesting that we're dismissive and aggressive?
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Old 22-11-2007, 13:28   #60
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From someone who was once religious I'll admit I now care more about my football and rugby teams than I do about religion. So am I still dismissive and aggressive?
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